S: 3 miles away

[cheapie]

Just read this report on our schools.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/27/dobbs.june28/index.html

if you'll notice, towards the end of the article it mentions the kalamazoo promise.

i live in portage, mi. 3 miles from the kalamazoo city limit. sigh....


more details on the program.
http://www.kalamazoopublicschools.com/education/dept/dept.php?sectiondetailid=10657&sc_id=1131662979

[johnnymk]

Where do they get the figures which state that workers with degrees make three times more than high school dropouts? That would be $56,000 per year, according to their figures.

I don't think so.

[cheapie]

are you saying that number is high or low? you don't think degreed workers average $56k? i'm surprised the number is that low!

[johnnymk]

It all depends on the degree. But I seriously doubt that most workers with degrees make more than $40K.

Parade in the Sunday paper has an issue every year which states average salaries. Other than engineers and upper end health care workers, I don't recall many workers having wages in the $55-$60K range.

[clutchy]

that would be pretty cool cheapie, have you kids started school yet? it might be worthwhile to make the move... or maybe not.

[cheapie]

i can't imagine that we'll still be in this area in 13 years so i'm not going to move. plus, the taxes are higher so that would offset a bit of the savings.

[cheapie]

It all depends on the degree. But I seriously doubt that most workers with degrees make more than $40K.

Parade in the Sunday paper has an issue every year which states average salaries. Other than engineers and upper end health care workers, I don't recall many workers having wages in the $55-$60K range.


$40k is only $20/hour. you don't think college grads through their career average that? mebbe i'm spoiled but i don't know if we could make it only making that now.

[ray]

Luggage Handlers at Newark Airport make at least $20/hour.

[cheapie]

plus all the stuff they can pilfer! :|

[johnnymk]

Aren't they unionized?

[mcs328]

When I graduated from college I was offered 40K starting 7 years ago. When I worked on campus I started at minumum wage and got up to 10/hour as a network tech. To me at least in my area and my industry, a salary that's 3 times someone else without a degree seems about right.

[welfareloser]

depends on what they mean by degree. if they're including associate's degrees, i agree with johnnymk. otherwise...

i'm trying to think of the lowest starting salaries for college degrees. bs, and even phd, in wide swaths of "gee whiz" science get you $20,000 if you're lucky enough to get a job... ma in architecture can get you as little as the mid 30s... but an awful lot of bs/ba's will get you more.

i dunno. 56,000 might be right, for bs/ba and up, averaged over a career... i'd call it high before i'd call it low, though. i mean, if the us median income is, what... is that in the upper 40s? and 25% of working adults have a college degree (or is that just 25% of gen-xers and younger?)

okay. i don't know enough to figure this out, so i'm going to go microwave some food now...