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nickel
07-29-2006, 01:07 PM
Iranian Leader Bans Usage of Foreign Words
Hardline Iranian President Orders Foreign Words Stricken From Official Vocabulary
TEHRAN, Iran Jul 29, 2006 (AP)— Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has ordered government and cultural bodies to use modified Persian words to replace foreign words that have crept into the language, such as "pizzas" which will now be known as "elastic loaves," state media reported Saturday.
The presidential decree, issued earlier this week, orders all governmental agencies, newspapers and publications to use words deemed more appropriate by the official language watchdog, the Farhangestan Zaban e Farsi, or Persian Academy, the Irna official news agency reported.
The academy has introduced more than 2,000 words as alternatives for some of the foreign words that have become commonly used in Iran, mostly from Western languages. The government is less sensitive about Arabic words, because the Quran is written in Arabic.
Among other changes, a "chat" will become a "short talk" and a "cabin" will be renamed a "small room," according to official Web site of the academy.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2250894
so...let's order an elastic loaf. we can short talk while we're waiting for it to be delivered and then head up to the small room. :spock:
jstreet
07-29-2006, 01:11 PM
I found this dictionary change particularly interesting:
Iranian President: ****ing Nutjob
bachviet
07-29-2006, 03:57 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2250894
so...let's order an elastic loaf. we can short talk while we're waiting for it to be delivered and then head up to the small room. :spock:
What are you saying again??? :P
Considering our dumb ass country did the whole renaming of "French" to "Freedom," it's hard for me to be too judgemental.
jstreet
07-29-2006, 04:09 PM
Considering our dumb ass country did the whole renaming of "French" to "Freedom," it's hard for me to be too judgemental.Maybe we should respond the same way the French did to that:
"We are at a very serious moment dealing with very serious issues, and we are not focusing on the name you give to potatoes." - Nathalie Loisau, a spokeswoman for the French embassy in Washington, D.C.
Cheesypuff
07-30-2006, 12:07 AM
Considering our dumb ass country did the whole renaming of "French" to "Freedom," it's hard for me to be too judgemental.
I was reading the bathroom reader today (I will not note where I was reading it), and it says that french fries were not invented by the french. The french it's refering too is the type of cut the potato"E" is sliced.
WhiskeyPapa
07-31-2006, 10:13 AM
Another new Iranian name:
"French Fries" will be called "Fascist Fries".
cadetevon
08-01-2006, 10:54 AM
Considering our dumb ass country did the whole renaming of "French" to "Freedom," it's hard for me to be too judgemental.
This was not an official decree from a government office. It was po'd American's venting against the sissy French. :shrug:
So totally and completely not the same thing.
WhiskeyPapa
08-01-2006, 11:08 AM
Um, it was an "official decree from a government office". It was an order issued by the Committee on House Administration and applied to all restaurants and snack bars run by the U.S. House of Representatives.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_fries
nickel
08-01-2006, 11:13 AM
Um, it was an "official decree from a government office". It was an order issued by the Committee on House Administration and applied to all restaurants and snack bars run by the U.S. House of Representatives.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_fries
not the same really though because we weren't told by our President that all governmental agencies, newspapers and publications couldn't say or use the word french fries or some 2000 other words that might be deemed offensive.
It was still a government order none the less reflecting the idiotic mindset of people in our government and their intolerance for other people
jstreet
08-01-2006, 12:42 PM
This was not an official decree from a government office. It was po'd American's venting against the sissy French. :shrug:
So totally and completely not the same thing.As I recall, and the Wiki above seems to confirm, the "sissy French" were concerned that the war in Iraq was premature.
At $3,000,000,000.00 a week plus 2,500+ dead Americans and 0 weapons found I am kind of in agreement.
Does that make me a sissy too? :2far:
WhiskeyPapa
08-01-2006, 01:05 PM
not the same really I never said it was the same. Just pointing out it was official, albeit limited in scope (and sincerity.)
cadetevon
08-01-2006, 01:05 PM
Does that make me a sissy too? :2far:
Not if, in your own estimation, you're not.
cadetevon
08-01-2006, 01:07 PM
It was still a government order none the less reflecting the idiotic mindset of people in our government and their intolerance for other people
Here is a quote from that wiki article: This action was carried out without a congressional vote, under the authority of Congressman Ney's position as Chairman of the Committee on House Administration, which oversees restaurant operations in the house. The simultaneous renaming of French toast to "freedom toast" attracted less attention.
(Emphasis mine.)
What we're talking about in this thread is a wee bit different, no?
nickel
08-01-2006, 01:08 PM
I never said it was the same. Just pointing out it was official, albeit limited in scope (and sincerity.)
okie dokie stokie. :)
jstreet
08-01-2006, 01:11 PM
Not if, in your own estimation, you're not.Therefore the French, in their own estimation, are sissies?
cadetevon
08-01-2006, 01:16 PM
Therefore the French, in their own estimation, are sissies?
You win the sissy debate. I give over.
ShawnLee
08-01-2006, 05:06 PM
Eh, the French are sissies. By virtue of the fact that the last war where the French won was the French civil war, and even then, the French nearly lost.
( I will not however mock them as cheese-eating frou-frous. Mainly because there's nothing at the matter with cheese.)
jstreet
08-01-2006, 06:24 PM
Eh, the French are sissies. By virtue of the fact that the last war where the French won was the French civil war, and even then, the French nearly lost.
( I will not however mock them as cheese-eating frou-frous. Mainly because there's nothing at the matter with cheese.)It's so in vogue to say the French are sissies in the US, kind of like it's in vogue to avoid merlot and for the rest of the world to blame the United States for every problem in the world at the moment.
Both, I'm sure, have some basis in fact, but they're really tired at this point... merlot is a great red, the US didn't cause quite every problem, and the French are a people worth our respect. Especially since they weren't so infinitely stupid to elect an infinitely stupid leader to get us into an infinitely stupid war. Again, $3 billion a week, 2500+ dead, 0 weapons, etc, etc.
Burzhui
08-01-2006, 07:02 PM
Considering our dumb ass country did the whole renaming of "French" to "Freedom," it's hard for me to be too judgemental.
OOOOH i like you ;) not to the point of where i'd want to have your love babies, but i wanted to say the same exact thing. However in this country it was the dumbass hicks that ranamed everything french to freedom, however in iran these dumbass hicks run the governemt... oh wait, it's the same here :(
hapoo
08-01-2006, 08:13 PM
you think thats funny. They have a whole bunch of these for all sorts of items... cars, computers, etc. and some of them are just hilarious!
gwilks98
08-01-2006, 09:05 PM
Anyone know if P3rsian ever went back to Iran? I've been wondering what his take on this was, since he claimed if the US ever attacked iran, he'd enlist to the Iranian cause.
nickel
08-02-2006, 03:42 AM
you think thats funny. They have a whole bunch of these for all sorts of items... cars, computers, etc. and some of them are just hilarious!
do you know of anywhere we could get ahold of the 2000 word list?
it'd be fun to write up a little story with it. :hihi:
Anyone know if P3rsian ever went back to Iran? I've been wondering what his take on this was, since he claimed if the US ever attacked iran, he'd enlist to the Iranian cause.
can't tell when he was last here exactly, but if anything
i thought this thread might bring him out of the shadows. :P
jstreet
08-02-2006, 09:29 AM
Hill fries free to be French again
By Christina Bellantoni
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
August 2, 2006
The fries on Capitol Hill are French again.
So is the breakfast toast in the congressional cafeterias, with both fries and toast having been liberated from the appellation "freedom."
Three years after House Republicans trumpeted the new names to get back at the French for snubbing the coalition of the willing in Iraq, congressmen don't even want to talk about french fries, which are actually native to Belgium, and toast.
Neither Reps. Bob Ney of Ohio nor Walter B. Jones of North Carolina, the authors of the culinary rebuke, were willing this week to say who led the retreat, as it were, from the frying pan. But retreat there has been, as a casual observer can see for himself in the House's basement cafeterias.
"We don't have a comment for your story," said a spokeswoman for Mr. Ney.
Several Republican staffers and lawmakers suggest that the change isn't worth investigating, unlike the eagerness in March 2003 to get into the headlines about patriotism on the menu.
Mr. Ney, who was then the chairman of the House Administration Committee, which oversees the cafeterias, gleefully announced the change at the height of anti-French sentiment, when Paris scolded Washington that the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq was premature.
"This action today is a small but symbolic effort to show the strong displeasure of many on Capitol Hill with the actions of our so-called ally, France," he said on March 11, 2003.
The Ney spokeswoman, who wasn't aware Monday that fries and toast had reverted to their original names, observed that Rep. Vernon J. Ehlers of Michigan, the Republican who chairs the House Administration Committee now, "has the right to change the name."
But Jon Brandt, a spokesman for Mr. Ehlers, doesn't want to talk about it, either. "Officially the committee has no comment on the matter," he said. "I really don't see how this is a story."
A spokeswoman for the panel's Democrats said she is unaware of the change, and none of the House staffers are willing to talk about it. A manager in the House's basement cafeteria said "freedom fries" and "freedom toast" were taken off the menu last week, and referred all calls to the Capitol's guest services department. The cafeteria in the Longworth Office Building apparently restored french fries in January.
Democrats on the panel did not return calls requesting comment, but other Democrats, who had called the switch in nomenclature "absurd," are free with the quips.
"Now that they've changed the name of the french fries back, maybe they will admit their other foreign policy mistakes were wrong, too," said Brendan Daly, a spokesman for Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California, the House minority leader.
The Senate never made any such changes at its cafeterias.
The change apparently reflects shifting public attitudes. A Pew Global Attitudes survey in June revealed a sharply different opinion of France from the days at the beginning of the war in Iraq. Fifty-two percent of Americans surveyed now have a favorable impression of France, up from 46 percent last year and 29 percent in May 2003. Before the Iraq war, 79 percent of Americans said they had a favorable opinion of France.
The term "freedom fries" actually originated at Cubbies, a restaurant in Beaufort, N.C., which caters to U.S. troops stationed at three nearby military bases. Mr. Jones, whose district includes the bases and the restaurant, circulated a letter to his colleagues seeking to call the spuds "freedom fries" because, he said, the French were "sitting on the sidelines."
A spokeswoman for the French Embassy noted that her country has been working "very closely" with the United States on the Middle East and that Presidents Bush and Jacques Chirac dined on french fries in February 2005.
"Our relations are definitely much more important than potatoes," Agnes Vondermuhll said. "French fries are back in the Capitol, back on the presidential dinner menu and our relations are back on track." http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20060802-125318-3981r.htm
I loath to link to what has thoughtfully been spraypainted on campus "NEO-NAZI RAG!" but hey, it's relevant and the WT did have the "scoop" ;)
ShawnLee
08-02-2006, 09:36 AM
"Now that they've changed the name of the french fries back, maybe they will admit their other foreign policy mistakes were wrong, too," said Brendan Daly, a spokesman for Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California, the House minority leader.Gotta get that jab in, haha.
And don't get me wrong with my earlier comment. I love the French and know that without them, we'd not exist as a nation. But even with that, I must still make fun of them. Here you had a true monarchy, and when they see a battle between royalists and anti-royalist republicans, who do they side with? Their enmity with the English was so great that they were willing to commit what would eventually become political suicide. The American revolution can be directly cited as a cause of the French revolution.
So yes. Love the French. Love mocking the French.
Oh, and back on topic...
Iran's President... Ahmanutjob? ah... what to say about him that hasn't already been said?
attgig
08-02-2006, 10:55 AM
i wonder if nucular is on that list....
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