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MikeD
10-06-2006, 09:44 AM
Well, sort of. Yeah he went off, but the beatdown wasn't that bad.

When Artest was on the Pacers, they formed one of the most combustible duos in the league. Portland's bad boys had nothing on those two clowns. It wasn't coincedence that they were involved in the melee at The Palace, either.

It sounds like they got caught up in some action that wasn't of their doing. I like how they all had guns, there were drugs in the car, and he found it fit to start firing off rounds. Folks, your 2006-2007 Indiana Pacers! :hihi:



INDIANAPOLIS - Stephen Jackson of the Indiana Pacers was slugged in the mouth, struck by a car and fired a gun in the air in self-defense outside a strip club early Friday, police said.

Jackson was limping but refused medical treatment at the scene, police spokesman Sgt. Matthew Mount said. Jackson conferred with a team trainer and sought treatment at a hospital.

Officers found a small amount of marijuana in the passenger side door of Pacer point guard Jamaal Tinsley’s car, police said. Officers could not determine the car’s driver or to whom the marijuana belonged, so no arrests were made.

There were no reports of anyone hit by gunfire. Police were looking for the car that struck Jackson, and others involved. Jackson was at the Indianapolis club with teammates Tinsley, Marquis Daniels and Jimmie Hunter, police said.

Jackson told officers he fired his 9 mm pistol five times after he was hit in the mouth and tossed on the hood of the car, Mount said.

Coach Rick Carlisle declined comment Friday, and calls by The Associated Press to team president Larry Bird and chief executive Donnie Walsh weren’t immediately returned. A message was left with Jackson’s agent, Dan Fegan.

The Pacers said Friday that all involved are cooperating with police, and none of the players at the strip club would be available to the media after practice Friday.

“Since this is an ongoing review of the matters that took place Friday morning, the Pacers will have no further comment at this time,” the team said in a statement.

The mayhem began with an argument inside Club Rio involving patrons and players, Mount said. The players said they left the club, but the patrons followed them.

“At some point when leaving the club, a verbal altercation ensued ... that turned into a physical altercation,” Mount said.

Tinsley and Daniels also had guns in their cars, and all three armed players had weapons permits, Mount said, although Daniels’ permit was issued by Florida.

The strip club’s managers told police that professional athletes sometimes come to the club.

“They don’t have a lot of problems there,” Mount said.

Jackson was suspended 30 games for his role in a brawl with Detroit Pistons fans at Auburn Hills, Mich., two seasons ago. Last season, he repeatedly argued with officials and his coach, and was singled out by Bird for his negative attitude.

Jackson pleaded no contest to misdemeanor assault charges related to Auburn Hills and was sentenced in September 2005 to a year’s probation and community service.

Bird said in May his players must shape up or play elsewhere next season. He said he was through dealing with what he said were bad attitudes, selfishness and laziness.

“They’re the ones that have to make the changes,” he said at the time. “If they can’t make the changes, yes, we have to look to move them.”

Jackson, a 28-year-old guard, joined the Pacers in 2004 and averaged 16 points during the 2005-06 season.

During a recent news conference, he hugged Carlisle and sat by his side to answer questions — a gesture the Pacers hoped would symbolize improved team chemistry. That happened a day after Carlisle signed a contract extension and was given the title of executive vice president of basketball operations.


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PlayBoyWorld
10-06-2006, 10:02 AM
This saddens me. As an avid basketball fan, I'm dismayed by how thuggish so many of the NBA players have become. It just seems that the image has been on a steady decline for many years now, and it's only getting worse. So these are the guys our kids look up to? Look at Jordan, what was his biggest problem? Gambling. Granted, that's not GREAT, but at least he wasn't going around shooting at people while leaving a strip club.

Sad.

Maarchk
10-06-2006, 10:13 AM
Although Jordan was suspected of cheating on his wife among other things...

People want to be like AI, Ron ARtest, and Kobe... and tragically they all have their quite visible flaws.
As much as i say i dont miss him, Shaq was a great role model for LA. I miss the big fella.

PlayBoyWorld
10-06-2006, 10:15 AM
Yeah, you have to give Shaq props in the role model department. He did so much for the community, especially for the kids around Christmas time. And he's been with Shaunie for a while now. I'm sure he's got skeletons, but at least he keeps them well-hidden.

kgsilvas
10-06-2006, 11:01 AM
Plus Shaq's big into law enforcement. He personally paid to replace LAPD cruisers trashed in the riot after one of the Lakers championship wins. He's gone through a couple of Sheriff/Police academies and is a reserver officer in FL. He was also on TV recently with "America's Toughest Sheriff" Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, where he autographed the pink underwear the inmates have to wear there in AZ.

Didn't appreciate it Shaq as a person until he was gone...


Wonder how much of the "thug persona" these players feel like they need to put out there for cred?

MikeD
10-06-2006, 11:04 AM
Seems to be worst in the NBA. Why is that?

PlayBoyWorld
10-06-2006, 11:24 AM
I can't find any real logic behind why it's NBA players more than any others. Perhaps because they are more in the limelight, maybe??? Not sure. Maybe it's just a continuous thread that started in the NBA.

GraingerGuy
10-06-2006, 12:42 PM
Isn't Shaq also trying (or got) his MBA from U of Phoenix? While it's not the best of schools, it's still awesome he's continuing his education.

It's completely stupid what NBA players think they can get away with. Or any athlete for that matter. They think they are invisible when they are under the microscope all the time.

PlayBoyWorld
10-06-2006, 12:59 PM
I understand that it's difficult to BE under said microscope all the time, but that's what they get paid the big bucks for. That's why they have the huge endorsement deals. If you wanna play, you gotta pay.

Maarchk
10-06-2006, 02:10 PM
The reason i can think that the nba has more thugs is because bball is a cheap sport. You just need a ball. You can play anywhere, (back alleys, bad neighborhoods) and so some of the people who come out of there are bound to not be of the beautiful type.

Versus football requires pads, outfits, and 20 people, so clearly it takes money, leadership and other thigns and i think makes people be in nicer neighborhoods or conditions. Same with hockey.

So i imagine it is partially where they come from and it is probably how the league is pretty much looking the other way for their super stars. They just need to throw down a few examples... i think their response to the pacers brawl was a step in the right direction and eventually people will get the idea.

I think the other problem is, If you toss AI and other people out of the league, you have some issues like you've just kicked out some of the biggest ticket sellers... So i think they need to suck it up, start enforcing drug and weapon possesions with suspensions and other fines and eventually it will be a happy clean league.

I do appreciate that some people throw some great charity games during the offseason for kids and other charities.

PlayBoyWorld
10-06-2006, 02:13 PM
I appreciate Larry Bird's response, he seems like the type who won't tolerate the thugs, because he's old school. But it's embarrassing when we send these thugs outside of the U.S., like to the Olympics. C'mon now, that was just humiliating. But it seemed that many of them didn't even try.

That's why I have such immense respect for players like Tim Duncan. He's a great player, AND he doesn't feel the need to act like a thug.

Showtime
10-06-2006, 02:21 PM
According to the report, jackson fired 5 - 6 shots in the air after getting punched by some dude and ran over by a car. That doesn't seem too bad to me. He could have shot the driver in self defense. He was just trying to warn them off.

If the same thing happened to an off duty cop, the headline would read "Offduty cop shoots man trying to run him over in self defense". Would anyone here have a problem with that?

Part of the problem is that many of the players come from the hood and continue to carry that mentality. The other problem is that there are thugs who are jealous and will start stuff just because their own lives suck.

What's all this boohoo crap about shaq? Shaq called L.A. fans real... real fake. **** shaq and don't think for a second that because he gives back 1% of his earnings that he's a good person. He does what all sport stars should do and not much more. His behavior is not much better or worse than any of the other star players in the league, but he has more money than any other nba player. Keep in mind he wanted 40 million a year to play for the show and was coming to camp more out of shape each season. He took less and got in shape for his new squad, but wasn't willing to even just get in shape for the franchise that helped him get 3 titles.