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Jeffbx

11-13-2006, 09:56 AM

Check out this auction that just ended:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Playstation-3-Premium-60GB-Console-PS3-Presale_W0QQitemZ110052997134QQihZ001QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Wish I had a pre-order....

Cubsfan

11-13-2006, 10:08 AM

DarkFury

11-13-2006, 10:12 AM

holy sheep sheeeeyat!!!! :eek:

kimchicowboy

11-13-2006, 10:16 AM

i know someone who preordered one of each. he's using the profit to pay back CC debt :P

YellowCoffee

11-13-2006, 10:19 AM

Holy crap. Wonder when Sony's actually going to be able to catch up. I have to think that the less they have available, the less they're going to be making on games over Christmas.

I think Sony has 400,000 at launch, right? How many Wii's are there? 800,000 at launch? Wonder what the numbers of each will be at the end of the year.

PS3 will have 2,000,000 units by the end of the year, while the Wii will have 4,000,000 units by the end of the year. Keep in mind that this is worldwide, not just US.

I still don't understand why people pay so much for these new systems. $3,000+ for a console system? If the bidder is willing to shell out that much money for the system, I'm sure he's going to get 3+ controllers and tons of games. That has to be another $500 or so. I'd rather get a new 42" widescreen LCD, a Wii, 3 extra controllers, and a new receiver with that kind of money.

Jeffbx

11-13-2006, 01:32 PM

I kinda don't think Sony is going to be anywhere near their projected numbers by the end of the year. Gamespot is already breaking the bad news to their customers:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6161580.html?tag=latestnews;title;1

A guy I work with is buddies with a buyer for Best Buy - he says they have no idea how many or what type of machines they'll get until the morning of the launch, but they expect it'll be way less than they presold.

Cubsfan

11-13-2006, 01:42 PM

I kinda don't think Sony is going to be anywhere near their projected numbers by the end of the year. Gamespot is already breaking the bad news to their customers:

Remind me to never read an article with Gamestop and Gamespot in it. Talk about confusing! :)

Memo

11-13-2006, 02:02 PM

PS3 will have 2,000,000 units by the end of the year, while the Wii will have 4,000,000 units by the end of the year. Keep in mind that this is worldwide, not just US.

I still don't understand why people pay so much for these new systems. $3,000+ for a console system? If the bidder is willing to shell out that much money for the system, I'm sure he's going to get 3+ controllers and tons of games. That has to be another $500 or so. I'd rather get a new 42" widescreen LCD, a Wii, 3 extra controllers, and a new receiver with that kind of money.

I'm sure people who drop 3k on a system already have nice TV and will probably get a Wii as well :)

YellowCoffee

11-13-2006, 02:09 PM

I'm sure people who drop 3k on a system already have nice TV and will probably get a Wii as well :)

You are definitely right about that one. Excuse the poor-man's whining

InfiniteNothing

11-13-2006, 02:17 PM

Usually the auctions with super high bids get relisted. I've heard of bids as high as 4
9K maybe. Probably snipes gone wrong. I'd hate to be the seller who gets stuck with the fee for a while until the Nonpaying bidder claim is checked out.

gear02

11-13-2006, 03:35 PM

I have a preorder with Gamespot and hopefully will get it this Friday.

The question though is whether to sell it or not. I'm very afraid of ebay auctions, particularly with this high exposure and high ticket item. Fraud is going to be rampant and I really don't want to take the risk. It's very easy to reverse a paypal deposit.

I could do an exchange in person, but I don't live in a great area and I'm concerned about who will show up to buy this. I've been told I can do this at a bank, but still that's a little scary.

What would you do? I will be buying a PS3 eventually. The question is whether the arbitrage opportunity is worth the high risk.

LPMiller

11-13-2006, 04:13 PM

with the amount of money you'd make on ebay, you could buy a better place to live.

Cheesypuff

11-13-2006, 04:49 PM

HOLY CRAPOLA~!!!~!~~!

If I were in the US...I would have totally hit this up.

I hit up the 360's on the third wave of distributions, and I still made around $100 profit on ebay. If only I would have gotten that on the first round would I have bank! DUDE...totally sell the first wave! you have enough self control to wait a few more weeks till second distribution.

gear02

11-13-2006, 05:02 PM

with the amount of money you'd make on ebay, you could buy a better place to live.

that's assuming you get the money. I'm willing to bet that a lot of people are looking scam people out of a PS3. It's a high ticket item and very high profile. It may look like a real bidder, but they can easily reverse a paypal transaction.

The roaches are coming out of the woodwork for this...

InfiniteNothing

11-13-2006, 09:10 PM

I hope you have a low number. EBgames/Gamestop said they don't have enough to meet preorders. Some say 60%
http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=3349

Jane83

11-13-2006, 09:16 PM

3k? ggeeeeez

Sirrich3

11-13-2006, 09:20 PM

My brother has a Pre order with Best Buy. I should see what he could get for it...

InfiniteNothing

11-13-2006, 09:21 PM

I'm pretty sure those were all cancelled. At least that's what the blogsphere said.

Jeffbx

11-14-2006, 04:40 AM

If you're going to sell, wait until you get the machine in your hands. I think people selling pre-orders are going to end up in a big mess if they sell something they can't deliver. Once that fiasco dies down, I'm willing to bet the price will go even higher in the weeks before the holidays for the actual machines.

cheapie

11-14-2006, 05:57 AM

i sold 3 360s when they came out. made about $1500 or so. of course, one of them was free from the pepsi everytenminutes promotion.

i'm thinking about taking a day off again and waiting in line all night for one. i could use some extra coin. even if i just make several hundred.

gear02

11-14-2006, 07:25 AM

cheapie

11-14-2006, 08:06 AM

ebay!

zippyjuan

11-14-2006, 10:19 AM

The US was supposed to be getting 400,000 units to start with. Japan got 100,000 and reported selling 90,000 in two days.

eSDee

11-14-2006, 04:54 PM

Why do people raise their own bids on ebay :confused:

cheapie

11-14-2006, 05:01 PM

ArkiStan

11-14-2006, 06:23 PM

If I stand in line all night at a store on release day, how many will I be able to buy? Will they limit it to one console per person?

InfiniteNothing

11-14-2006, 06:41 PM

Yes. Everyone in line will get one... well, except of course the people at the end.

ArkiStan

11-14-2006, 06:57 PM

When is the official release date BTW?

Jeffbx

11-15-2006, 05:13 AM

If I stand in line all night at a store on release day, how many will I be able to buy?

Probably none. I hear the supply is way less than expected - Best Buy expects to get 10 per store - of those, probably 9 will go to employees and one will go to someone on the pre-order list. I'd recommend going Sears if you're going to wait - they don't hype these too much but they carry them.

*Edit - double check this - I don't think Sears will be part of the initial release.

When is the official release date BTW?

This Friday (11/17!) I dunno if anyone is planning on selling them at midnight Thursday. Go get in line now! Go!

DarkFury

11-15-2006, 10:02 AM

they don't. let's say bidder A bids $300 for a widget when the current bid is $40. eBay will then show bidder A as having bid $41 since that's the minimum he can bid.

bidder B comes along and bids $200 and then eBay automatically bumps bidder A up to $201 without posting the bid of bidder B. it just looks like bidder A raised his own bid.

either that or if bidder A bids X and the reserve is X +y. then he has to bid again to be above the reserve and it will show it as another bid.

but i don't believe you can really raise your own bid if you're the high bidder and you're above the reserve.

i could be wrong. esp after 2+ glasses of wine. lol.
Yeah.. the wine must be talkin' to ya. :cheers:

When you proxy bid an amount (i.e. you bid a high amount up front) the incremental bid only goes up to $1 (or next bid increment depending on current total) above the highest current bid. However, if someone comes along and raises the bid above current but below your maximum proxy, the bid will automatically adjust to $1 above that person's bid. However, that person's bid WILL show in the bidder's list even though it won't be the top bid anymore (as the original proxy bid was still higher than this latest person's proxy.)

Pretty much the only thing you can do to raise your own proxy is to go in and revise your proxy amount... then eBay will automatically raise your bid to that level if someone comes along and outbids the current price on the item.

The main reason you see the same person's number several times is that the second person keeps going back in and raising his top proxy bid... pretty much eBay doesn't show each "raise" in the second bidder's proxy but shows the first bidder's higher proxy in succession of new added proxy bids. Just follow the string up the chart to see where the second guy either met or stopped short of the first proxy bid... (yeah it's kinda weird that the same person's name looks like it is raising itself, but in reality, it is the second person who is raising it step by step. I'd think that he was just trying to run the bid to test how far the first guy's proxy was gonna go.)

InfiniteNothing

11-15-2006, 10:07 AM

Which of course doesn't make sense. From a prudent spender standpoint the best strategy is set a max and stick to it.

DarkFury

11-15-2006, 10:14 AM

Which of course doesn't make sense. From a prudent spender standpoint the best strategy is set a max and stick to it.
True, but hey... it depends on how bad you really want it.

I think eBay becomes a "feeding frenzy" in the final 10 mins of an auction... :D

Take note of the final 8 minutes of that auction... the bid went from $1850 to $3050 between 2 people.

gear02

11-15-2006, 10:31 AM

Ok. Let's say I want to sell it. What should I do to CMA (cover my ass)?

Markel

11-15-2006, 10:39 AM

I'd think that he was just trying to run the bid to test how far the first guy's proxy was gonna go.)
I'd think that it was a friend of the seller driving the real bid up. :shifty:

zippyjuan

11-15-2006, 11:32 AM

Looks like the US allocation is getting reduced.

Sony to Cut PlayStation 3 U.S. Allocation to 200 Thousand – Analyst.
Sony PlayStation 3 Launch “Symbolic” for Software Makers, Claims Analyst

Category: Multimedia

by Anton Shilov

[ 11/15/2006 | 04:00 AM ]

An analyst believes that Sony Computer Entertainment America will further cut the allocation of the PlayStation 3 (PS3) game consoles in the USA, which will leave software designers without significant additional revenues from PS3 game sales and gamers without the anticipated device.

“We expect Sony to deliver 150-200K units to stores in the United States for the launch; consumers without pre-orders may find it difficult to locate an available system. We estimate sales of approximately 750K PS3s domestically by year-end. We expect a more robust launch from Nintendo, with at least 1.2 million units sold in the U.S. and up to four million units shipped worldwide by year-end,” said Colin Sebastian, an analyst with Lazard Capital Markets, reports Gamasutra web-site.

The analyst said that due to the limited initial installed base of the platforms, the financial impact of the new consoles’ launch over the holiday period will be more significant for hardware manufacturers and video game retailers rather than for software publishers.

“We expect less than 15% of software sales to come from the PS3 and Wii this holiday; the more numerous Xbox 360, PS2 and handheld platforms (DS and PSP) remain key drivers of growth,” Mr. Sebastian said.

If the data by the analyst is correct and Sony will deliver only about 200 thousand of the PlayStation 3 consoles, this would be another blow for the company, who already blamed production issues with the Blu-ray lasers for reducing the amount of the game machines available at launch and cut the initial allocation by more than 10% even in its domestic market.

Sony Computer Entertainment America will start sales of the next-generation PlayStation 3 game console on November 17. Back in September SCEA said that only 400 thousand of units will be available at launch in the USA and 100 thousand would be shipped to Japan. According to reports, since then the company has further cut allocation for its domestic market to 88 400 units.

Meanwhile, DigiTimes web-site cites Sony Computer Entertainment Hong Kong as saying that there will be only 500 PlayStation 3) game consoles available for sale in Taiwan during the product’s launch on November 17.

cheapie

11-15-2006, 08:15 PM

i went to the local target today at 8pm EST and there were already 9 people in line...in the 41 degree rain. and the store was only going to get 8 ps3 units. hmmmm....they've only got another 32 hours to sit there! :rolleyes:

DarkFury

11-16-2006, 09:11 AM

VTGreg

11-16-2006, 11:46 AM

I've called all of the Wal-Marts in the area where I am working and most of them expect to get 10. They go on sale at midnight but at noon today they all already had lines. We'll see what happens and if the lines aren't maxed out by the time I get off of work.

VTGreg

11-16-2006, 11:47 AM

Yikes... that's just CRAZY mang. :2far:

I would imagine most of these people are doing it for profit. It may be worth waiting in line for a day and a half for a profit of $2000-$3000. Heck, that's more money than most people make in a week or in many cases even a month.

InfiniteNothing

11-16-2006, 12:02 PM

It's still crazy. I don't know what these peoples lives consist of but when I look back (and forward) on all the little events in my life that would not have happened (or will happen) this week, there's no way their worth would top the profit.

InfiniteNothing

11-16-2006, 12:14 PM

chrissy

11-16-2006, 09:44 PM

People are getting shot at (http://www.wkyt.com/news/headlines/4661551.html) while waiting in line.

mcs328

11-16-2006, 09:51 PM

People are getting shot at (http://www.wkyt.com/news/headlines/4661551.html) while waiting in line.

The report I read was it's with BB guns. A newswoman was on the scene interviewing the people in line and was hit also.

chrissy

11-16-2006, 09:59 PM

yeah, it was with a BB gun, but still! That stings! And you can still put an eye out!
:P

Airencracken

11-16-2006, 10:19 PM

And you can still put an eye out!
:P

http://www.o-meon.com/images/Celebs/PeterB_AKA_Ralphiejpg.jpg

As long as it has a compass in the stock...

Thesifer

11-16-2006, 10:27 PM

Supposedly every Best Buy is getting 20 Units. That's what a friend of mine that works there claims.

Airencracken

11-16-2006, 10:29 PM

20 PS3's? Ha! Not even, the initial forecast was 10 units per retail outlet, and they just slashed their numbers.

Thesifer

11-16-2006, 10:31 PM

On a related note, anyone think this 10 G bidder will follow through.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=008&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=180050827536&rd=1&r
30K?
http://cgi.ebay.com/SONY-PLAYSTATION-3-PS3-60GB-PREMIUM-SYSTEM-PREORDER_W0QQitemZ270054974671QQihZ017QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

If you read the "Communications" at the bottom, it seems like the guy that paid 10k for one is planning on scamming the guy. As he asks for a "Refund if you don't send right away on the 17th.."

Sirrich3

11-16-2006, 10:35 PM

Just came back from my loacal Target and there must have been around 40 people in line....

wung

11-16-2006, 11:16 PM

yeah, it was with a BB gun, but still! That stings! And you can still put an eye out!
:P

yeah, it would suck to gain a PS3, yet forfeit an eye.

brainsmile

11-16-2006, 11:26 PM

I have a preorder with Gamespot and hopefully will get it this Friday.

How does one preorder? I got an email from them but I think that was just a notification no?

gear02

11-17-2006, 04:27 AM

How does one preorder? I got an email from them but I think that was just a notification no?

It's too late to preorder with them. They had this one day where PS3 preorders were available. It wasn't well known, but enough people did. I showed up at my local gamestop right at opening and there was a small line of about 3-4 people. I snagged the last 60GB.

Jeffbx

11-17-2006, 08:58 AM

There's still hope, if you're OK with the 20GB one:

Dear GameStop.com/EBgames.com Customer:

We will have an extremely limited supply of 20GB PlayStation 3 console bundles for preorder on our site Friday evening, November 17th.

We expect these bundles to ship on or before December 1st. When the bundle is activated on our site, you can find it here:
http://www.gamestop.com/gs/ps3/ps3_signup.asp
http://www.ebgames.com/gs/ps3/ps3_signup.asp

We will not offer 60GB PlayStation 3 console bundles until our store pre-orders have been filled, but check back soon for future preorder opportunities.

Receipt of this email does not guarantee an opportunity to purchase. Orders will be taken on a first come, first serve basis.

Thank you,
GameStop.com/EBgames.com

Thesifer

11-17-2006, 10:24 AM

20 PS3's? Ha! Not even, the initial forecast was 10 units per retail outlet, and they just slashed their numbers.

Best Buy El Cajon has 104 PS3's lastnight for the Midnight release. Of course that was the Most in california. And the Minimum that Best Buy Carried was 20.

Also...

check out this Link for this "Ultra RARE PS3 EMAIL Address!"
For a @yahoo.com address LOL.
http://cgi.ebay.com/SONY-PS3-VERY-RARE-EMAIL-FOR-PLAYSTATION-3-SELLING_W0QQitemZ190052519098QQihZ009QQcategoryZ187QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem