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Cheesypuff
12-12-2006, 04:51 PM
humor me for a minute or two...I have a cold, and I'm drugged up, and very drowsy...random thoughts...bare with me =)

anywho...I showed my students a math video of donald duck etc etc. Thats not the point. The point is...the vid made huge point to bring up the pentagram and the mathematical perfection of the pentagram. A lot of nature and is derived from the pentagram. In the days of Pythagoras, the church was greatly opposed to the idea of having anything describe nature besides God. SO, some Pythagoreans made a secret society of math nerds with the emblem of the pentagram to show they were in this secret society. The secret society discussed findings of nature/music/everything using math. MY GUESS...the church didn't like they were using math to describe Gods nature, which is why they made this secret club of math nerds to discuss such findings. Anywho...using the secret emblem of the pentagram, they now have this club.

I think push came to shove, and everybody got pissed off at everybody. NOW...something as simple as math describing nature came to math nerds hating the church and the church hating math nerds. These people became separated from the church and later on took a hating to the church and the symbol of the pentagram became skewed, turned upside down and instead of this club being math nerds, it evolved to a group hating the church. And later on being called Satanist.


yeah...I have no idea if any of my assumptions are historically correct. and to be honest...I really don't care. I'm sick...drugged...and drowsy. And I'm sticking with that as my excuse for writing this thread. happy trails all. And by all means, if you guys wanna correct me...go right ahead. I won't be hurt.


i also think I've been reading too many dan brown books :)

attgig
12-12-2006, 05:21 PM
wikipedia to test your theory :-P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagram

i love wiki

attgig
12-12-2006, 05:22 PM
oh, and i'm sick along with ya. so i understand the feeling. been trying to spit out papers in this miserable state.

Cheesypuff
12-12-2006, 09:01 PM
i read the wiki...

but it didn't say anything about the my assumptions.

then again...I only glanced at it.

Hoser
12-12-2006, 09:55 PM
The video you're talking about is 'Donald in Mathmagic Land'. I have that on VHS. It's one of my favorite videos. I wish that I could get it on DVD, but I think you have to be a teacher to buy it. If anyone could get me a copy, let me know.

Cheesypuff
12-12-2006, 11:55 PM
yeah...donald in mathmagic land. great video! it's so funny and gets people into math.

BigJon
12-13-2006, 04:15 AM
I heard an interview from a Satanist reverend once...and according to him and his church...they aren't worshiping Satan. It's really basically a church minus God. They actually beleive that everyone can be their own god according to the wiki...rather than worshipping the actual Satan. The Christians would have named them "Satanists" so they kept it.

I can see where the theory could have evolved. Who knows?

Houdini
12-14-2006, 11:23 AM
I heard an interview from a Satanist reverend once...and according to him and his church...they aren't worshiping Satan. It's really basically a church minus God. They actually beleive that everyone can be their own god according to the wiki...rather than worshipping the actual Satan. The Christians would have named them "Satanists" so they kept it.

I can see where the theory could have evolved. Who knows?

Seems like they would just call themselves "personists" or something. I know that there are a few cults of actual satan worshippers around, but yeah, satanism isn't always what people think it is. Still, the "black mass" and the upside-down crosses smack of insult to the Church and not simply a religion minus God. Just kind of provocative I guess. Wish people had better things to do than just insult others. :shrug:

Showtime
12-14-2006, 05:00 PM
smoke and mirrors

GilbertsGrape
12-14-2006, 09:38 PM
going for $5.50 on e bay
http://cgi.ebay.com/Donald-Duck-in-Mathmagic-Land-VHS-Rare-OOP-Disney_W0QQitemZ180061415983QQihZ008QQcategoryZ309QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

GilbertsGrape
12-14-2006, 09:40 PM
and Reigon 2 DVD

http://cgi.ebay.com/Donald-Duck-In-Math-Magic-Land-Mathmagic-NEW-R2-DVD_W0QQitemZ220057226931QQihZ012QQcategoryZ35014QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem