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avenger73
12-05-2000, 08:54 AM
Does anyone else realize that GotApex is just a page filled with self-referals? For a site that condemns self-referals, they sure have enough of them. GotApex gets commissions if you buy from the links they provide? Sure sounds like it to me. I say "Down with Apex!" There is a better site anyway, even though I believe they are controlled by the same group. Try DealHunting.com . They are a scam, too, but a better site.

pennypinch
12-05-2000, 08:59 AM
Holy hot damn, you are going to get the flames. And the kids like the flames. Enjoy your funeral...

Nanotech9
12-05-2000, 10:43 AM
hehe... how do you think these people can afford to take all the time to keep a site like this running? it's sure not because of your charity contributions! All sites like this have affiliates. If they didn't, it wouldn't be worth their time or trouble to keep the site going.

yes, the folks the run apex and dealhunting.com do talk to each other a bit, but they aren't out to scam anyone.

anyways, it benifits you too... say for example, you buy something from a site that apex is an affiliate of, and they mess up your and others orders, he has a little extra pull with that business and can put some pressure on them to fix the problem a little sooner.

so, sit down, shut up, and get over it!

NiceMann
12-05-2000, 11:09 AM
Apex never said you can't have self-referals...just that you have to place it under the spam forum. Yes he does make good money off his links here, he has no problems admiting that. If you don't like the things run here just go start your own deal website....there are tons out there.

~NiceMann

Blu
12-05-2000, 11:26 AM
Dude, open your own site if you have problems with this one. I don't think you are appriciating the amount of work that is done on this site. Apex, LP and Darth spend time every day for their efforts. And it's a thankless job at that. You expect them to not get compensated? And how is it a scam? Are you losing money because of it? Are they selling your email addy? They need this money. Server space isn't cheap, and neither is the kind of bandwidth they require.

You're being an idiot. You should start to think before you post.

Blu

spigidygak
12-05-2000, 11:35 AM
YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!! Blast ye land lubber. Ye asking to walk the plank. Arrr. As the head of rear admirals. . . I boot ya out to see. . . Arrr in me seven years of sailing the seven seas I've never seen such disrespect. Arr.

sbp
12-05-2000, 12:12 PM
This is Apex's site. If there are going to be referrals he should get it.

There is a forum where people can post self-referrals. Apparently you can't figure out where it is. Its called the MLM, Referrals, and Spam forum.

Looks like avenger73 http://www.geocities.com/sbp7777/crybaby2.gif is upset that GAM removed your referral in this got|deals thread. http://www.gotapex.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=14720

And here is the thread you posted to pimp http://www.geocities.com/sbp7777/pimp2.gif your own site. http://www.gotapex.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=11816

Here's another one of your self-referral threads: http://www.gotapex.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=11873

How nice of you to refer to Got|apex? and Dealhunting as scams. And you certainly are delusional if you think they are controlled by the same group.

[Edited by sbp on 12-05-2000 at 12:17 PM]

MaggieOK
12-05-2000, 12:13 PM
I am the administrator of DealHunting.com. While I appreciate the endorsement I would like to point out that I also pay the light bill from my site. Do you realize that I work every single day on the site sometimes upwards of 12 hours a day? If Deal sites didn't make money on some of the deals they post there would be no motivation for us to do it. I certainly wouldn't work as hard on my site if it weren't for the benefits of doing so.

I would appreciate it if you would be more kind in your posts and respect Apex and this site. DealHunting wouldn't be as large as it has become if it weren't for the generosity of Apex and the friends I've made here in the forums.

Thank you.

Maggie
http://www.dealhunting.com

MaggieOK
12-05-2000, 12:14 PM
Oh, and no, the two sites are not run by the same folks.

MaggieOK
12-05-2000, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by TheBluGuy
Apex, LP and Darth spend time every day for their efforts. And it's a thankless job at that.

Hey, what about Leon?

revil
12-05-2000, 12:33 PM
:nono: umm... GET HIM! :woo:

hehe, all I can say is chill out. :bandit:

Grimm
12-05-2000, 01:06 PM
I was very surprised by the maturity and responsible attitude of the replies to this individual. What's wrong with you people!!! Burn him! Burn him at the stake! The lying little puss filled bag of excrement doesn't deserve to be allowed onto the site generously provided by Apex and crew! The ungrateful little pathetic twit has no call to talk that way Apex has been totally up front about his business dealings, everyone (with one tenth of a brain or more) knows about the referrals supporting this page.

A horrible fiery death to you avenger73.

That said I would like to apologize to Apex and staff for my abusive conduct toward another user on his their forums, but not to avenger73 himself.

theHNIC
12-05-2000, 01:17 PM
I say we hang him.

http://thedude.org/images/content/1april.jpg

hapoo
12-05-2000, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by MaggieOK

Originally posted by TheBluGuy
Apex, LP and Darth spend time every day for their efforts. And it's a thankless job at that.

Hey, what about Leon?

:eek2::eek2:
:yell:What about me?? and all the posting i've done to drive in customers?!?! :heh:

pennypinch
12-05-2000, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by sbp
Looks like avenger73 http://www.geocities.com/sbp7777/crybaby2.gif is upset that GAM removed your referral in this got|deals thread. http://www.gotapex.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=14720

And here is the thread you posted to pimp http://www.geocities.com/sbp7777/pimp2.gif your own site. http://www.gotapex.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=11816

Here's another one of your self-referral threads: http://www.gotapex.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=11873

Hah! Love the pimp graphic!

I am continually amazed at how restrained you people are. Let it go! Feel the hatred flow! Come over the Dark Side...oh, sorry.

I think your first mistake was setting your home page to the same site you were pimping in the aforementioned threads. That's not very smart...:hmm:

gwilks98
12-05-2000, 02:36 PM
There seems to be only one clear way to resolve conflicts like these....


ROCK 'EM SOCK 'EM ROBOTS!!!



<boing>

LPMiller
12-05-2000, 02:51 PM
how the heck to you define scam?

And this may be a shock, but I put in many hours combing for news, writing reviews, and I don't get paid all that much...I do it cause I like it. Apex make money? God I hope so, because this is work, baby.

what's your next news flash - that banner ads pay money to the website? Say it isn't so!

next!

kain9i6
12-05-2000, 03:11 PM
You know.. I could be really rude.. but I just don't have the energy.. I will say that I'm sure he's just pissed because he isn't making any money on his page..

Blu
12-05-2000, 03:12 PM
Alright. I just ran over to the other posts that avenger has posted. He's a jerk. I say ban that ass. He complains about scams, but he runs them himself. What an idiot. Time to kick some ass.
:woo:

Leon
12-05-2000, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by MaggieOK

Originally posted by TheBluGuy
Apex, LP and Darth spend time every day for their efforts. And it's a thankless job at that.

Hey, what about Leon?

I just sit there. :hmm:

Blu
12-05-2000, 03:41 PM
Ok, I forgot Leon. *sigh* I'm sorry. Here Leon, drink one on me :cheers:

Blu

bella
12-05-2000, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by avenger73
Does anyone else realize that GotApex is just a page filled with self-referals? For a site that condemns self-referals, they sure have enough of them. GotApex gets commissions if you buy from the links they provide? Sure sounds like it to me. I say "Down with Apex!" There is a better site anyway, even though I believe they are controlled by the same group. Try DealHunting.com . They are a scam, too, but a better site.

What are you doing here???? Oh and this is one of the best sites I have ever ran into... Keep up the good work!@!@!@@!

sbp
12-05-2000, 04:51 PM
Okay you got us. Its all a scam. :heh: Apex isn't giving me enough beer to pretend otherwise anymore.

Here's a nice site that avenger73 can self-referral himself to (http://www.yourajackass.com)

Jeffbx
12-05-2000, 07:51 PM
You're absolutely right, Avenger - it is a scam. You know another scam I just found out about?? Network TV!!! Do you know those scam artists get PAID when WE watch commercials!!!??? All this time I thought it was free, when in fact network execs are lining their pockets off of long hours *I* spend watching product endorsements.

Those ungrateful, sorry, (*&*#@#$.....

hapoo
12-05-2000, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by Jeffbx
You're absolutely right, Avenger - it is a scam. You know another scam I just found out about?? Network TV!!! Do you know those scam artists get PAID when WE watch commercials!!!??? All this time I thought it was free, when in fact network execs are lining their pockets off of long hours *I* spend watching product endorsements.

Those ungrateful, sorry, (*&*#@#$.....


WELL DAMN!!! YOUR RIGHT!!!!

I never thought of that, but i pay to see ads!!

Damn them!!! :mad3::mad3::mad3:

att
12-05-2000, 10:56 PM
i'm gonna f/u/c/k/i/n kill you! how can some dumbass person come over and start talkin sh!t like that. you are what i hate about the internet, all the goddamned kids out there runnin their ignorant mouths. someone needs to create a little character for you with a stick of dynamite shoved up its dumbass. and leon, what's up with you dude? i know you dont take this all that seriously, and you always downplay your role, but come on dude, flame this jerkoff! defend your territory! and sbp, where's the graphic of some horrendous suicide or something to post against this guy? you always have a gif. to post. you are all slippin

gwilks98
12-05-2000, 11:44 PM
Someone gag and bag that nazi muffin. He's wasting my time...

Grimm
12-06-2000, 10:12 AM
Come on people, I know you can do better. I've seen better flames than this from you. This jerk realy deserves it. It seems so half-hearted. It's a chance to express yourselves. Be creative.

pennypinch
12-06-2000, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by evilcyclops
Come on people, I know you can do better. I've seen better flames than this from you. This jerk realy deserves it. It seems so half-hearted. It's a chance to express yourselves. Be creative.

Goddamn holiday spirit already kicking in...Jebus...it's truly disgusting that only att and sbp are willing to put up their dukes...

Incidentally, have you taken a look at his sorry page? I rank it right up there with other GotApex classics like sbp's homepage (:D), http://www.dudechat.com , or http://www.eat-a-bag-of-dicks.com . *sigh* a true legend in its own time.

gwilks98
12-06-2000, 11:29 AM
He's probably not going to come back. I say good riddance. It's thoughtless bullshit like that makes me want to condemn internet use for all people incapable of tieing their shoes.

avenger73
12-06-2000, 12:02 PM
It appears that most all who have replied to this thread are ignorant. I don't mean that as an insult. They just do not possess the correct knowledge to assess the situation correctly. I DO NOT self-promote! The E-shoppe is my home page, as in when I open my browser, it opens to that page. I do not own that page! I buy all my electronics online, and that site is by far the best I've found for getting me the best deals. I like it very much, therefore, I refer others to it, just as I refer others to DealHunting, and Priceline. Do I own them? Of course not, other wise I wouldn't need to be here! I suggest you all get off my back and use your brains a little. Oh, and name calling is a sure indicator that Apex caters to 12 year olds. Grow Up!

Grimm
12-06-2000, 01:05 PM
You don't deserve a reply but here it is any way.
You call us ignorant, but you list the default page set up on you browser as your "home page", when everybody else on the internet knows that the home page you list in a profile is one that you have set up and maintain. Not too bright are ye? The subject matter and discourse of this forum obviously shows that the users are generally over 18 (as indicated by their buying items with credit cards). This leads me to believe that you are just spouting off insults to cover how embarrassed you are for being such a fool. Proof of juvenile behavior in itself.

As for growing up, No.:nono: I choose not to. I prefer to have fun rather than conforming to repressive social norms.

..:smash:
:yell: <-- avenger73 (name included just incase avenger73 didn't get it)

[Edited by evilcyclops on 12-06-2000 at 01:07 PM]

Jenny
12-06-2000, 01:09 PM
...that Apex pays to keep up the site? I'm the coupon manager at DealHunting and a loyal member and friend of Got|Apex and I, better than most people on here (besides those in charge! :) ) know how much hard work and sweat go into a site, especially one this size. Apex is not independantly wealthy (and if he is, he's been holding back on me... Grrr! ;) ) so without the income from his referrals, banners, and ads, there would be no Got|Apex. I commend him on a great site (and of course, Maggie is doing a fantastic job at DealHunting, too!) and urge him to put up all the moneymaking stuff he can!

Grimm
12-06-2000, 01:32 PM
Can you beleive he's still at it?
http://www.gotapex.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=14822

I think a long time member with 960 posts, many of which have been helping people (as opposed to just bitching that the world isn't fair to you) has a much better idea of what is appropriate on this board than some punk with 8 posts. Avenger 73, how long did you lurk on this board before posting? I lurked for a few months so I would not post something stupid and make a fool out of myself.
May be you should just appologise to Apex, MagieOK, and the general populace then concentrate on learning how things work here. In a few months you can be a respected member of the forums, a contributing member of society, instead of a laughing stock.

speedracer120
12-06-2000, 01:45 PM
So avenger73, just because Apex chooses to make income through banner ads you think that it's self-promoting? Oh come on dipshit, so I assume you dare not watch TV, listen to radio, read periodicals, attend sports events, ride any mode of transportation not owned by you? Give me a break all those things generate income through ads. You're an imbecile. If you think it's so horrible that people actually make money off the internet through their own ingenuity then get the hell off of it. As for your lame ass homepage, they seem to have self-serving ads of their own. If you didn't know, they also make money from you clicking on the banners.

As for me being a moron, you are just a dumb jackass that seems to like pissing people off. You know what? There's a great service for people like you to use, it's called AOL. Go bug all your little juvenile delinquent buddies there. And another thing I hope you have hard long fall from your high horse. :rolleyes:

Someone already suggested it but, get this NIMROD out of here, ban the idiot. :woo:

revil
12-06-2000, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by avenger73
It appears that most all who have replied to this thread are ignorant
Whos more ignorant? the ignorant mob or the ignorant person who insults the mob? you decide.

theHNIC
12-06-2000, 02:07 PM
This is just plain sad.

http://www.funshack.com/smile7.gif

Was I this bad when I joined?

sbp
12-06-2000, 04:09 PM
http://www.geocities.com/sbp7777/avenger73.gif

pennypinch
12-06-2000, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by avenger73
Aren't we a bit hypocritical? Way to self-promote, yet your thread is still intact. Hmmm, perhaps you are in bed with GotApex after all?!? For those of you who don't know, "In bed" is an expression meaning "affiliated with."


Gee, thanks for the idiom lesson, chump! You shore do no English good!

Listen, I don't know what your problem is. Ya don't like the way things go here, why do you still come? Why don't you take your little buddy bobber and head over to http://www.dudechat.com . I'm sure ziggyzaggy'd appreciate the company.

theHNIC
12-06-2000, 04:24 PM
SBP

How do you do that?

LPMiller
12-06-2000, 04:26 PM
I'm almost 32, so if I want to act like a 12 year old, I can if I want to....Nyaaah!

Your lucky I don't have mod powers, because if I did, everytime you hit the submit button, 10,000 volts would light up your crotch like the Washington DC Christmas tree.

If you feel so strongly that it is a scam...go away. And I speak for me when I say that. I work hard enough that I don't need the grief from what is likely a 15 year old loner just waiting for the day the metal detector at school goes belly up.

valid critism I'll accept, even if I disagree. Accusations blindly flung out at good people for no damn good reason other then for you to pass the time do not in fact, interest me.

Personally, if it was truly a scam, I wouldn't be here. I don't write glowing reviews of products I hate, I won't review something I didn't pay for or get to keep for free (which as of yet, hasn't actually happened, dammit) and I won't back scams. Not that I'm against a good scam, I'm Italian, but not here, not with so many people who come here, rely on us for what we do, and what we provide.

Now go soak your head.

AmRivlin
12-06-2000, 04:52 PM
As long as there is an SEP as long as there is a CTH as long as GotApex.com is registered in the WhoIs database, People will come to learn of better ways to spend their life than outdoors.

Scam or no Scam, does it really matter? Are we assisting in drug trafficing in any way? Man I wish we had a forum on that, I have heard there is big money there!

Does GotApex cost anything? Not directly, but I will admit to a $5000 loss in my savings... What really happened when I set up my paypal account?

Any way Mr. Lam doesn't claim to have a Non-Profit Organization, this is a .com and I'll be damned if they don't die making it rich off this site.

(How Do you like the carrige return... :) )

LPMiller
12-06-2000, 06:23 PM
about time...though now you are no longer allowed to mention my spelling errors.

sillyazn
12-06-2000, 08:08 PM
avenger needs to shut up.

Bloodymess
12-07-2000, 07:04 AM
got apex A scam :(
Now that this is pointed out to me I refuse to take advantage of any more of these great deals that are being offered to me free of charge !
I feel so used.
Thank god we have wonderfully smart people like this guy posting in this forum or we might just keep on saving money blindly.

Blu
12-07-2000, 09:53 AM
Pot calling the kettle black? Um, avenger...you titled your post "Morons?" I don't think you have room to talk about insults....

Blu

hapoo
12-07-2000, 11:56 AM
Are you people still arguing???:rolleyes: When people say stupid shit I just ignore it. It tends to save both time and energy.

Got Apex Moderator
12-07-2000, 12:47 PM
No need to worry about avenger73. He's been shown the door.

pennypinch
12-07-2000, 01:40 PM
Really? I didn't think he did anything ban-worthy...hell, we didn't even ban Vadimr/Vladik/Consumer Advocate, and he was much worse!

Got Apex Moderator
12-07-2000, 02:09 PM
In addition to his lame insulting behaviour I had to delete a rude thread he posted in got|deals forum yesterday.

ajbuchan
12-07-2000, 06:06 PM
You stupid imbeciles! I hate you Apex Moderator! I hate all of you! I'll never use your stupid poorly written site again!

Got Apex Moderator
12-07-2000, 06:35 PM
Everythings fine with ajbuchan :)
http://www.gotapex.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=102601#post102601

renots
12-07-2000, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Leon

Originally posted by MaggieOK

Originally posted by TheBluGuy
Apex, LP and Darth spend time every day for their efforts. And it's a thankless job at that.

Hey, what about Leon?

I just sit there. :hmm:

Me 2 :hmm:

renots
12-07-2000, 08:28 PM
..was obviously a 'hidden' troll unleashed 2 spread dissent and anger...

wanna guess who sent him?