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johnnymk
01-24-2007, 04:38 AM
Computer Shopper had an article this month noting this settlement and stated that other manufacturers of printers will probably follow Epson's strategy.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061129-8323.html



Epson has won a series of victories in its quest to cut down on the importation and manufacture of aftermarket inkjet cartridges for its products. The company just announced that it has signed settlement agreements with multiple defendants, all of whom acknowledge that they were in violation of Epson patents.

Epson has been pursuing these companies for months, filing lawsuits against them in federal court and bringing a complaint with the US International Trade Commission early this year. Many of the companies involved have now decided to settle rather than fight the patent infringement charges. Artech (Germany), Ink Lab Co. (Hong Kong), InkTec (Korea), Inkjetwarehouse.com (Connecticut), and Rhinotek Computer Products (California) have all agreed to stop importing many kinds of aftermarket cartridges for Epson printers, a move that could make it more difficult to get inexpensive refill cartridges.

In the federal court case, Epson charged a long list of defendants (many of whom have not yet settled) with patent infringement based on two patents: 7,008,053 and 7,011,397. Both patents cover minor technical innovations in the production of inkjet printer cartridges.

In addition to the settlement agreements, three other companies have agreed to "consent orders" from the International Trade Commission that will prohibit them from importing the cartridges in question. In addition, an ITC judge has issued default judgments against eight other companies that did not respond to the accusations against them.

Keith Kratzberg, Epson America's VP for marketing, said in a statement, "We will continue to pursue the ITC action and the pending District Court lawsuit vigorously and take whatever other action may be necessary to protect Epson from unfair competition through patent infringement or the distribution of counterfeit ink cartridges."

Epson has been winning such cases around the world. In June, the company received a preliminary injunction from a Taiwan judge against U-Bar International over that company's "Continuous Ink Supply System," also on patent infringement grounds. Printer manufacturers traditionally follow the strategy made famous by Gillette, where the razor is sold cheaply (or at a loss) in order to make money on consumables like blades (or, in this case, printer cartridges). Because they have adopted this business model, manufacturers routinely try to prevent third-party companies from edging in on the consumables market.

Epson's current claims involve patent and copyright, though DMCA injunctions have been a favored tactic of other companies. Lexmark lost such a case several years ago when it implemented a trivial security system on its cartridges, then sued a third-party manufacturer for bypassing its proprietary "encryption." A judge ruled against Lexmark, and Epson has elected to take a different approach with its legal strategy. So far, it looks to be working.

renovation
01-24-2007, 10:47 AM
That was one of my main reasons for buying Epson over HP: I could get imported or aftermarket ink cartridges. If this becomes the end of the aftermarket cartages for my Epson printers then I will more than likely start buying HP printers as I personally feel they produce a little better print quality!

Napoleon54
01-24-2007, 03:31 PM
I likes my Epson printer. I wonder what this will do to the price of their inks- either sales will go up and prices thus will drop, or prices will go up 'cause they've eliminated their competition.

Airencracken
01-24-2007, 03:46 PM
Or sales and price will go up because they hold a monopoly on the ink. Bastards. How the **** does a cartridge of carbon cost fifty bucks. What a crock of ****.

LPMiller
01-24-2007, 04:24 PM
a monopoly on the ink cart you make for your printer is not really a monopoly when you don't have to buy it.

I've never seen an aftermarket ink cart I've liked anyway.

Napoleon54
01-24-2007, 06:24 PM
I've never seen an aftermarket ink cart I've liked anyway.
:agree:

Fortunately the only time I bought 3rd party ink for my R300 the site offered a guarantee, so I returned that crap after printing just a few pics and seeing that the color balance was WAY off. Never again. I'll stick with my Epson genuine ink, but hopefully the price doesn't increase.

A couple weeks ago I got a $45 dollar credit to use for ink at the Epson store as a result of a class action lawsuit. If I remember correctly, the suit alleged that somewhere along the printer -> printer cartridge -> printer drivers scheme the cartridges were prematurely shown to be empty, when in fact there was useable ink remaining. Suit was settled out of court and anyone who had bought a printer within the last couple years and had registered with the lawsuit administrators was awarded store credit redeamable for ink.

zippyjuan
01-24-2007, 06:25 PM
When my Epson inkjet got clogged and died after about two years I bought a color laser printer instead. Costs me much less in the long run.

Napoleon54
01-24-2007, 06:28 PM
When my Epson inkjet got clogged and died after about two years I bought a color laser printer instead. Costs me much less in the long run.

If lasers would do photo-quality stuff on heavy weight paper (i.e. the kinda stuff you'd put behind glass and hang on the wall), I'd be really tempted to go that route also. But maybe I'm out of touch, do they have that capability??

johnnymk
01-24-2007, 07:55 PM
:agree:

Fortunately the only time I bought 3rd party ink for my R300 the site offered a guarantee, so I returned that crap after printing just a few pics and seeing that the color balance was WAY off. Never again. I'll stick with my Epson genuine ink, but hopefully the price doesn't increase.

A couple weeks ago I got a $45 dollar credit to use for ink at the Epson store as a result of a class action lawsuit. If I remember correctly, the suit alleged that somewhere along the printer -> printer cartridge -> printer drivers scheme the cartridges were prematurely shown to be empty, when in fact there was useable ink remaining. Suit was settled out of court and anyone who had bought a printer within the last couple years and had registered with the lawsuit administrators was awarded store credit redeamable for ink.

I wonder if I will get my credit soon?

Jeffbx
01-25-2007, 04:50 AM
If lasers would do photo-quality stuff on heavy weight paper (i.e. the kinda stuff you'd put behind glass and hang on the wall), I'd be really tempted to go that route also. But maybe I'm out of touch, do they have that capability??

Not that I've ever seen - inkjet is still the way to go for photo printing. For color powerpoint, maps, etc. laser is better (much cheaper per page).

I have a B&W laser for all of my everyday printing, and the inkjet is ONLY for photo printing.

zippyjuan
01-25-2007, 11:56 AM
Do you need photo quality? I rarely print photos any more but I found that they were cheaper to have done somewhere else like the local drug store than trying to print them myself- once you include buying ink and papers. For printing web pages or copies of emails (like purchase receipts) the laser is perfect.

tupacboy
01-25-2007, 01:59 PM
how often do you guys print photos?

i find it cheaper to go across the street to costco or walmart...