Monitors

[ohukuo]

I'm slight debate on which monitor I want to get . I was looking at the Dell 22" Widescreen flat panel and the Sceptre x22wg-gamer flat panel.

Dell is offering the 24" in their refurb section I was wondering if it'll be better to drop down a couple more hundred and get that instead since it has Component outputs and 9-1 flash card readers and supports picture-in-picture and picture by picture.
(found a thread about the 24" from Dell from one of the members here and from what they say it seems fairly pleasing.)

Don't really know much but reading reviews they both seem very good monitors. Does anyone have any of these monitors? if so can you share your expereince about the monitor.

[Napoleon54]

I'm slight debate on which monitor I want to get . I was looking at the Dell 22" Widescreen flat panel and the Sceptre x22wg-gamer flat panel.

Dell is offering the 24" in their refurb section I was wondering if it'll be better to drop down a couple more hundred and get that instead since it has Component outputs and 9-1 flash card readers and supports picture-in-picture and picture by picture.
(found a thread about the 24" from Dell from one of the members here and from what they say it seems fairly pleasing.)

Don't really know much but reading reviews they both seem very good monitors. Does anyone have any of these monitors? if so can you share your expereince about the monitor.

I have the Sceptre and am very happy with it. It is fast, bright, has great contrast; overall, the image quality is excellent. No dead pixels or anything either. The bezel is very thin and discrete, the buttons are all located on the backside of the bezel but are easily accessible- there are little icons on the front so you know where to reach. I also like the built-in USB hub, 2 ports on the left side, also out of sight as with the buttons. It does have speakers but I don't even see where they are and like most people haven't bothered to plug them in 'cause monitor speakers invariably suck.

The display itself is gorgeous but I'm not too impressed with the stand. It is a little flimsy and doesn't have any adjustments (no horizontal or vertical tilting or height adj.).

Overall: great display, stand could be better, and you should be able to find it for significantly cheaper than the Dell. I'd give it 3.5 out of a possible 4 stars.

Edit: I just discovered that it does in fact tilt up and down. I guess I hadn't pushed hard enough before!

[ohukuo]

I have the Sceptre and am very happy with it. It is fast, bright, has great contrast; overall, the image quality is excellent. No dead pixels or anything either. The bezel is very thin and discrete, the buttons are all located on the backside of the bezel but are easily accessible- there are little icons on the front so you know where to reach. I also like the built-in USB hub, 2 ports on the left side, also out of sight as with the buttons. It does have speakers but I don't even see where they are and like most people haven't bothered to plug them in 'cause monitor speakers invariably suck.

The display itself is gorgeous but I'm not too impressed with the stand. It is a little flimsy and doesn't have any adjustments (no horizontal or vertical tilting or height adj.).

Overall: great display, stand could be better, and you should be able to find it for significantly cheaper than the Dell. I'd give it 3.5 out of a possible 4 stars.

I read some reviews on Newegg and some users are saying they have experienced backlight bleed. Has that happened to you?

[JohnyRosco]

from what i've read that Dell 22" has no adjustable stand and lots of comments about the light bleed. this SAMSUNG 225BW Black 22" on newegg has some light bleed problems too but most say it's rarely noticeable...and this one has a much better stand, but it's also $50 more. With Dell, i'm afraid to get one that's not an UltraSharp.

[Napoleon54]

I read some reviews on Newegg and some users are saying they have experienced backlight bleed. Has that happened to you?

No, I don't notice any backlight bleeding at all. I just checked the NewEgg reviews too, it seems like kind of a hit or miss problem. :shrug:

And please note my edit above regarding the tilt.

[Napoleon54]

Just checked Dell SB, they're offering their E228WFP for $296. Newegg has the Sceptre at $299.99 after MIR, so it looks like the price is a wash.

[ohukuo]

Since its really a hit or a miss, I'll go to my local electronic store and check it out this weekend. Hopefully they will have one in stock. I have a $200 gift card for Costco from my company so hopefully if all goes we'll I'll go pick one up at Costco.

[ohukuo]

So this weekend I had a chance to check out the Dell 24" and the Sceptre. I was fairly impressed with both. Both nice sharp and chrisp. The stand kind of bugs me on the Sceptre as the Dell seems to have a slightly better stand IMO.

Kind of seems like if I get the Dell, I'll have more input devices and 2" more of viewing space, while if I get the Sceptre I won't have as much input devices and I'll lose the 2" being space.

Decided to get the Dell 24" since its a long time investment.

[redcolours]

glad you got the 24" dell. :thumbup:

you have to also realize (if you havent already) that the 24" offers not just a bigger square footage, but HIGHER RESOLUTION.

all the 22" displays ive seen go as high as 1680x1050.
thats THE SAME RESOLUTION as a smaller 20" display.
what that means is that a pixel (or dot pitch) is bigger on the 22" LCDs.
meaning: bigger screen, same res = bigger icons.
22" - 0.282 mm Pixel Pitch
20" - 0.258 mm Pixel Pitch

its not like they took the 20" LCD and extended the edges to measure at 22". what they did was kinda like just "magnifying" the whole 20" frame. maybe good for TV/movies, but for computing you want more real estate in the amount of pixels. at least thats what i want...

But the 24" LCDs, now you have a much HIGHER resolution at 1920x1200 (pixel pitch= 0.270 mm).
this would be similar to taking a standard (non-widescreen) 1600x1200 20" LCD, and EXTENDING the longer side from 1600 pixels to 1920 pixels (20% longer). MORE real estate!

on the same token - a 20" widescreen is nothing more than a standard LCD extended a bit, and shrunk a LOT. its extended by just 5%, from 1600 to 1680 pixels, but shortened down by 12.5%(!!!), from 1200 down to 1050 pixels. you lose about 8% space total. those sneaky bastards...

but even so the good part about widescreens is that you can easily put 2 documents side by side or 2 windows side by side easily. Plus its a widescreen HDTV down the line! i guess at that point a 22" LCD is an ok purchase (if its price difference to a 20" is negligible)...

i think you made a very wise choice on that 24" LCD. :)
(i myself am thinking of ditching my dual 20" standard LCDs, to a dual 20" widescreen setup...)

[Napoleon54]

UPDATE: Stay away from the Sceptre x22wg. The thing died on me the other day and after an hour of troubleshooting I traced the problem to the monitor's DVI port. Went to NewEgg to post a review about it and EVERYONE is saying the same thing. This monitor seems to work for a month or two at most, then dies. :angry:

A quick glance at the last 100 reviews posted at NewEgg, going back to late January: EVERY REVIEW REPORTS A DEAD DVI PORT. EVERY SINGLE LAST ONE. What a lemon of a monitor. I am furious.

Check this out, it's absolutely ridiculous: Link (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16824112005)

EDIT: just realized I had the list sorted for negative reviews at the top. But even sorted by date, there'll be one person reporting on the beautiful monitor they just bought, then two people complaining about a dead DVI.

[Napoleon54]

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