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cruelpupet
03-28-2007, 05:10 PM
So the company pays a fine, and the shareholder who have nothing to do with it are the ones effected. Shouldnt the CEO be charged with treason as he is ultimately responsible?




http://money.cnn.com/2007/03/27/news/international/itt_export/index.htm?postversion=2007032713

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The leading manufacturer of night vision gear for the Defense Department has admitted sending classified materials overseas and will pay a $100 million penalty, according to federal prosecutors, who say the actions of ITT Corp. have jeopardized the security of U.S. soldiers.

ITT, based in Roanoke, Va., exported classified or sensitive technical data to China, Singapore and Britain without having obtained authorization from the United States, prosecutors said.
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The conviction is the first involving a major defense contractor violating the Arms Export Control Act, prosecutors said.

Saying that American soldiers are "the principal victims of ITT's crimes," U.S. Attorney John Brownlee said he has structured the $100 million penalty so that half of the money is spent by ITT to develop a next-generation night vision system and "ensure that our soldiers have the best night vision equipment in the world."
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ITT must invest the $50 million over five years to accelerate development of night vision technology, and the government will maintain rights to all technology that is developed under the agreement.

The arrangement will also allow the government to share any technology developed by ITT under the agreement with ITT's competitors, Brownlee said.

Prosecutors said the probe began Aug. 1, 2001, when Defense Department investigators discovered that ITT night vision employees sent a classified military document to Britain.

The company engaged in a "regular pattern of export violations and misrepresentation" to the U.S. government from 1980 to 2005, prosecutors said.

In some cases, information was transferred because the manufacture of laser gear could be done cheaper overseas.

ITT "went to significant lengths to set up an end run" around State Department licensing systems, prosecutors said, including enlisting a front company to export the systems.

The company also fought the government's investigation, Brownlee said, and attempted "to essentially run out the clock on the statute of limitations." He said the company's posture changed in 2005 with the hiring of a new CEO, Steven Loranger, who hired new outside corporate attorneys and instructed the company to cooperate with the investigation.
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ITT Corp., whose competitors include Lockheed Martin (up $0.08 to $98.50, Charts) and United Technologies (down $0.34 to $66.07, Charts), has agreed to plead guilty to a count of violating the Arms Export Control Act by illegally sending classified and/or export-controlled information relating to night vision materials to foreign countries. It also will plead guilty to a count of knowingly or willfully omitting material facts from required reports with intent to obstruct a State Department investigation.

As part of the $100 million penalty, ITT will pay a $2 million criminal fine and a $50 million deferred prosecution penalty - to be invested in night vision technology - and will forfeit $28 million to the U.S. government as the proceeds of its illegal actions. ITT will also pay a $20 million penalty to the State Department.

Shares of ITT (down $0.28 to $60.91, Charts) edged lower during afternoon trading on the New York Stock Exchange.

zenbooty
03-28-2007, 06:49 PM
To be convicted for treason it has to be shown you had malicious intent to harm the U.S. when performing your treasonous act. I don't think this will qualify.

Nija
03-28-2007, 09:10 PM
They get rewarded by way of them having to develop a new night vision system. WTF? You developed one, and sold it off, now we will make you develop another one as punishment. That makes no sense.

Houdini
03-28-2007, 10:43 PM
Well, we do have an obligation to use our technologies to have the best equipment. IOW, to outsee the other guys with lesser NVGs. :shrug:

As far as treason, yeah, it looks kinda sketchy and pisses me off, but I think I'd rather see the editor of the NYT tried for disclosing everything he can get his hands on regarding our military strategies in Iraq and here. Freedom of press is great, but not at the expense of our guys and gals in uniform. If the NYT had published a third of what they have during WWII, it would have been shut down until the war was over.

LPMiller
03-29-2007, 04:35 AM
which would be illegal and immoral.

zenbooty
03-29-2007, 05:49 AM
Well, we do have an obligation to use our technologies to have the best equipment. IOW, to outsee the other guys with lesser NVGs. :shrug:

As far as treason, yeah, it looks kinda sketchy and pisses me off, but I think I'd rather see the editor of the NYT tried for disclosing everything he can get his hands on regarding our military strategies in Iraq and here. Freedom of press is great, but not at the expense of our guys and gals in uniform. If the NYT had published a third of what they have during WWII, it would have been shut down until the war was over.
Oh baloney. If anything they have printed so far was truly a threat to national security than how did that info get out in the first place?

Its been the right's strategy for years to try and discredit the media, since its the media that serves as the best watchdog for the government. If no one trusted the media, real criminals like Bush, Cheney and Rove would get away with their offenses with impunity. Its a shame when common people don't see exactly what the right wing media agenda really is.

Thesifer
03-29-2007, 05:59 AM
Oh baloney. If anything they have printed so far was truly a threat to national security than how did that info get out in the first place?

Its been the right's strategy for years to try and discredit the media, since its the media that serves as the best watchdog for the government. If no one trusted the media, real criminals like Bush, Cheney and Rove would get away with their offenses with impunity. Its a shame when common people don't see exactly what the right wing media agenda really is.

How did it get out in the first place? Our stupid idea of allowing "embedded" journalism. For one. And also because no matter how many times you try and stop it, there will always be tons of leaks. Major national security violation or not. If enough people are looking for it, they will find it.

What's that 300 ton pink elephant doing in the middle of the room? Shhh you don't see him!

Jeffbx
03-29-2007, 06:35 AM
They get rewarded by way of them having to develop a new night vision system. WTF? You developed one, and sold it off, now we will make you develop another one as punishment. That makes no sense.

The penalty on that is that ITT has to do the work, and then the government gets all of the rights to whatever they develop. Good for the ITT employees who get to work on it, but the company doesn't get to market it or sell it, so it's a big waste of time for them.

Prngr44
03-29-2007, 07:39 AM
Seemed pretty shady to me too...

In other news, they just released the prototype for their new technology:

http://www.billybobpacifiers.com/images/holoeyes_lg.jpg

Houdini
03-29-2007, 06:02 PM
Oh baloney. If anything they have printed so far was truly a threat to national security than how did that info get out in the first place?

Its been the right's strategy for years to try and discredit the media, since its the media that serves as the best watchdog for the government. If no one trusted the media, real criminals like Bush, Cheney and Rove would get away with their offenses with impunity. Its a shame when common people don't see exactly what the right wing media agenda really is.

Leaks happen. They always will. Someone will always say something for a buck. But for a world-read newspaper not to use discretion is terrible.

faither
03-30-2007, 06:42 AM
Snitches get stiches.

I say we start shooting those who leak such information.