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johnnymk
05-25-2007, 05:16 AM
I believe that no one should be using a cellphone while driving.

http://kennebecjournal.mainetoday.com/news/local/3934401.html

AUGUSTA -- Some teenagers are questioning the fairness of a plan to prohibit drivers under 18 from using cell phones while they're behind the wheel.
But lawmakers say the plan makes sense because new drivers should concentrate on honing their road skills rather than talking on the phone.

Lawmakers will vote on the proposal soon, now that the Legislature's Transportation Committee has unanimously endorsed it.

A separate bill making it illegal for Mainers of all ages to use hand-held cell phones while driving seems headed for defeat in the days ahead because the Transportation Committee has voted 11-2 against it.

So the focus will be on under-18 drivers.

The bill that has the committee's support would prohibit minors from using any phone, hand-held or hands-free, as well as any "hand-held electronic device" for anything other than music.

So all phone calls involving drivers under 18 would be illegal, but catching tunes on an iPod or a similar device would remain legal. Violators would be fined at least $50 for the first offense and at least $250 for subsequent offenses.

While some teenagers support limiting cell-phone use by drivers to reduce accidents, they argue that an age ban is discriminatory.

Preventing drivers from using cell phones is "a good way to keep people safer," said Aaron Watson, 16, of Phippsburg, who has his driver's license. "I see the point in that," but he said any prohibition should be across the board, instead of targeting one age group, he said.

Others question the need for any ban, arguing in some cases that young drivers, far from posing a greater risk than adults, sometimes are more alert and attentive behind the wheel than older drivers.

"I know teens that drive a lot better than adults," said Nate Libby, 16, of Brunswick, who does not have his license.

"I think it's a load of crap" to single out younger drivers, he said. "Cell phones have become pretty much a part of life for teens."

Under existing law, 16- and 17-year-olds initially receive a so-called "intermediate license" that bans cell-phone use and imposes other restrictions for six months. If they get through that probationary period without any violations, they then get a license that allows them to use a phone while driving, just like everyone else in Maine.

The bill backed by the Transportation Committee would extend that existing six-month ban for young drivers until their 18th birthday. That means, for example, that a teenager who gets a license at 16 would have to wait two years -- not the current six months -- before using a phone behind the wheel.

"This is a step in the right direction," said Democratic Rep. George Hogan of Old Orchard Beach, the sponsor of the under-18 bill. "Kids are kids, and they have an affinity to do impulsive things," Hogan said, so they should not be distracted by phone calls while driving.

Republican Rep. Richard Cebra of Naples, a Transportation Committee member who voted for Hogan's under-18 ban but against the broader ban, said young drivers "need to be concentrating on getting a feel for the road." He said more experienced adult drivers should be free to "act responsibly" and use their judgment. In any case, Cebra said, an all-ages ban on hand-held phones is not needed because hands-free models are ubiquitous, and even many hand-held phones have a speaker option that allows the user to talk without holding the phone.

Attempts to curtail phone use by drivers have been kicking around in the Legislature for years, according to Republican Rep. Robert Berube of Lisbon, who does not expect the Legislature to pass his bill barring drivers of all ages from using hand-held phones.

Berube's bill would have exempted emergency workers, physicians, commercial truck drivers and government transportation workers from the ban, but that wasn't enough to win over the Transportation Committee.

Opponents of the more sweeping ban say the state lacks hard data to substantiate claims that cell-phone users cause accidents.

A third bill in the Legislature, which has the support of most Transportation Committee members, orders the state Department of Public Safety to analyze data about the role cell phones and other distractions play in accidents. That bill, which is awaiting action in the full Legislature, instructs the department to propose interim safety measures to the Legislature by Jan. 15, 2009, and make final recommendations by Jan. 15, 2010.

Maine State Police, whose accident forms are used by other police departments, already are upgrading those forms to include information about specific distractions and their role in motor-vehicle accidents.

California, Connecticut, New Jersey and New York have made it illegal for all drivers to use hand-held phones, while some other states have imposed more limited restrictions, such as young-driver phone bans, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

VTGreg
05-25-2007, 06:50 AM
While this may have a positive impact, it will be very difficult to single out a group and have this stick. What's next, also prohibit any individual over the age of 55 of using a cell phone while driving.

I am convinced that if you are easily distracted while driving, you will find something other than road to focus on and not be a safe driver. Some people can drive safely while using a cell phone and others can't, just as some people can drive while talking to someone else and others can't.

Markel
05-25-2007, 08:30 AM
While this may have a positive impact, it will be very difficult to single out a group and have this stick.
Illinois has driving laws which are specific to 16 and 17 year old drivers. One limits the number of (non-related) passengers (under 18, I think) to a maximum of 2. The idea behind this (and an age-specific cell phone ban) is that younger drivers have less experience and the danger of distraction is higher.

shocky123
05-25-2007, 11:23 AM
Ill also has an anti-cell phone rule, at least in chicago, I'm not sure where else it is, but you cant use a phone unless it's hands-free there.
This doesnt at all lower the amount of distraction a phone call can create, but meh, its a start.
I say do it! They're not 18 yet, when they can, and wont vote for the next round of politicians in their state, they can repeal it of course :-)

YellowCoffee
05-25-2007, 11:51 AM
I heard they are going to implement the no-cell phone while driving rule in San Diego late this year or early next year. Anybody have any confirmation on this?

DarkFury
05-25-2007, 11:59 AM
I heard they are going to implement the no-cell phone while driving rule in San Diego late this year or early next year. Anybody have any confirmation on this?
Does that include no use of "bluetooth wireless" celluar communications as well?

YellowCoffee
05-25-2007, 01:51 PM
Does that include no use of "bluetooth wireless" celluar communications as well?

This I'm not sure of. I was under the impression that the bluetooth headsets would be fine, but I'm not sure

bachviet
05-26-2007, 08:41 AM
I heard they are going to implement the no-cell phone while driving rule in San Diego late this year or early next year. Anybody have any confirmation on this?
I don't know about San Diego but CA will ban talking on cell phone w/o a handsfree device while driving starting in July 2008.

Napoleon54
05-30-2007, 08:34 AM
While this may have a positive impact, it will be very difficult to single out a group and have this stick. What's next, also prohibit any individual over the age of 55 of using a cell phone while driving.

I am convinced that if you are easily distracted while driving, you will find something other than road to focus on and not be a safe driver. Some people can drive safely while using a cell phone and others can't, just as some people can drive while talking to someone else and others can't.

:stupid:

Age is a stupid criteria to consider. Why not all inexperienced drivers? There are people who don't get their license until 18 or later, and this law wouldn't do anything in those instances.

I say there should be more focus on driver education rather than simply banning certain things. Just like VTG said: some people can drive with a phone to their ear, whereas others are way too distracted with a handsfree/ bluetooth headset. People should learn their limits and drive responsibly.

NY has a hands-free only law... no phone to your ear while driving. Nobody obeys it. I'll keep track on the way home, but I'd be willing to bet that 5-10% of the people behind the wheel here have a phone to their ear.