best tasting bottle water ?

[renovation]

when you buy bottle water .what normal brand do you buy ?

[uncledaddy]

I purchase water in .5L bottles by the case, 24 ea., for mixing baby's formula. I've purchased Nestle Pure Life, Arrowhead, and Aquafina. Honestly they all taste the same as they are all purified by reverse osmosis. I've tried spring waters but don't like the mineral tastes. Sometimes I think paying for bottled water is a waste anyway. Unless you live somewhere like say Campo. The well water there was always full of nitrates and other unmentionables.:wavey2:

[InfiniteNothing]

Really odd, but water seems to be very person to person. I like Arrowhead but I know people who don't.

[DarkFury]

Honestly, I go to my local Wal Mart and fill up a 5 gallon bottle of wate for $1.69 that is basically filtered tap water.

It has no aftertaste... just a clean refreshing taste. And for the price it's just a pure winner. :D

[Sirrich3]

I'll stick with Sparkletts

[zippyjuan]

Most of the bottled water is from municipal sources like tap water. I fill a jug at the local grocery store machine or more typically just drink tap. Tap water in San Diego tastes fine to me. And I don't have to pay more for it. Apexers looking for deals and how to save money should apreciate that. What do people do with all those plastic bottles? Throw them out or recycle them? Either way, a waste.

[Maarchk]

I do what DarkFury does, fill up at the 25 cent stores or sometimes the 15 cent a gallon windmills and the water tastes... like nothing... Which is what i like.

Valley water on the other hand tastes like rust and sometimes it grows living organisms in it if i let it sit too long.. That made me lean away from it.

[Airencracken]

I like Penta, but I drink mostly Aquafina. If I had my way, my house would have a filtration system, and that would be it.

[ray]

I would buy Fiji water everyday if I could afford it.

[MrGreg]

I usually buy bottled water from costco, but my favorite is Earth2O

[ArkiStan]

Om a side note:
I'm curious if I'm the only one that thinks Evian is the worst tasting bottled water ever.

BTW, it's kinda funny that Evian spelled backwards is "naive."

[oblongmelon]

I like Pellegrino but with it being mineral water you can't drink it everyday or you end up not being able to feel your tongue because of all the minerals! I like Penta alot but unless it's on sale the health food store I won't buy it. (I buy a few cases a month with their 20%off case coupon)-I swear it helps to keep my weight and my blood sugar stable)..when I'm feeling dangerous I just drink tap water that has been run through my Brita filter..it's fine.

[oblongmelon]

I would buy Fiji water everyday if I could afford it.

Never had it..is it REALLY from Fiji? I knew a guy once that though that Poland Springs was from Poland..then I told him to read the bottled-he was depressed after that..lol

[cheapie]

folks...IT'S WATER!!!!! can you think of a single thing that more accurately typifies the american consumer than a discussion on which brand of water is best???

first of all, you're paying ridiculous amounts of money for something that's FREE! second, do you know how how many water bottles fill our landfills every year? lots. about 90% of the water bottles used never get recycled. and guess how many americans use...2.5 million bottles of water are used EVERY HOUR in the US.

The energy we waste using bottled water would be enough to power 190,000 homes. And making all of the bottles for the US requires more than 1.5 million barrels of oil annually. That's enough to fuel 100,000 cars!!!

And when I hear people talk about buying Fiji water I almost start to hyperventilate! No offense Ray but what we're talking about is taking water, the most abundant natural resource in the world and one which you likely don't have to walk more than 50 feet in any direction to find, and SHIPPING IT FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD!!! Not only do the plastic bottles use valuable petroleum to make, but the process of making bottles isn't great for the environment, you have to ship the stuff across the ocean, put it on trucks, move it to a warehouse, put it on a smaller truck, move it to a gas station, create energy to keep it cool, and then put it in your hand.

or you can simply pour tap water into a brita pitcher and get the exact same thing!


aarrrgggghhhh! and the same people...nm. needless to say i find this discussion incomprehensible.

[Cubsfan]

Fruit20

[fillup0215]

I like Dasani!

[InfiniteNothing]

I would buy Fiji water everyday if I could afford it.
Oh, I almost forgot about that water. It's pretty good stuff. Lots of silica which makes it nice and smooth tasting. Very wet water.

[DarkFury]

folks...IT'S WATER!!!!! can you think of a single thing that more accurately typifies the american consumer than a discussion on which brand of water is best???

first of all, you're paying ridiculous amounts of money for something that's FREE! second, do you know how how many water bottles fill our landfills every year? lots. about 90% of the water bottles used never get recycled. and guess how many americans use...2.5 million bottles of water are used EVERY HOUR in the US.

The energy we waste using bottled water would be enough to power 190,000 homes. And making all of the bottles for the US requires more than 1.5 million barrels of oil annually. That's enough to fuel 100,000 cars!!!

And when I hear people talk about buying Fiji water I almost start to hyperventilate! No offense Ray but what we're talking about is taking water, the most abundant natural resource in the world and one which you likely don't have to walk more than 50 feet in any direction to find, and SHIPPING IT FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD!!! Not only do the plastic bottles use valuable petroleum to make, but the process of making bottles isn't great for the environment, you have to ship the stuff across the ocean, put it on trucks, move it to a warehouse, put it on a smaller truck, move it to a gas station, create energy to keep it cool, and then put it in your hand.

or you can simply pour tap water into a brita pitcher and get the exact same thing!


aarrrgggghhhh! and the same people...nm. needless to say i find this discussion incomprehensible.

Please note that I reuse my same 5 gallon water bottle every time I go to Wal-Mart to refill. I have 2 of them, so that my tank never runs empty for more than a few minutes.

The $1.69 I pay... I consider a "service charge" for them using their reverse osmosis/charcoal filter on the city tap lines. Pretty much, I like doing that better than worrying about cleaning a Brita filter or spending $2,500 - $4,000 on a home water softening/water filtration system. :D

(Now I know you weren't specifically referring to me in your post... but honestly, the tap water here in Indy SUCKS TO BE DAYUUUUMED!!!! :puke: )

[cheapie]

that is absolutely the way to go. your method is the opposite of what i have a problem with. :wavey:

[Jcranmer]

folks...IT'S WATER!!!!! can you think of a single thing that more accurately typifies the american consumer than a discussion on which brand of water is best???

first of all, you're paying ridiculous amounts of money for something that's FREE! second, do you know how how many water bottles fill our landfills every year? lots. about 90% of the water bottles used never get recycled. and guess how many americans use...2.5 million bottles of water are used EVERY HOUR in the US.

The energy we waste using bottled water would be enough to power 190,000 homes. And making all of the bottles for the US requires more than 1.5 million barrels of oil annually. That's enough to fuel 100,000 cars!!!

And when I hear people talk about buying Fiji water I almost start to hyperventilate! No offense Ray but what we're talking about is taking water, the most abundant natural resource in the world and one which you likely don't have to walk more than 50 feet in any direction to find, and SHIPPING IT FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD!!! Not only do the plastic bottles use valuable petroleum to make, but the process of making bottles isn't great for the environment, you have to ship the stuff across the ocean, put it on trucks, move it to a warehouse, put it on a smaller truck, move it to a gas station, create energy to keep it cool, and then put it in your hand.

or you can simply pour tap water into a brita pitcher and get the exact same thing!


aarrrgggghhhh! and the same people...nm. needless to say i find this discussion incomprehensible.

For the record I fully agree with you on all of your points but one. Water is NOT free. Unless you have well water or have a spring on your property. Of course I suppose if you have a lake or stream and you want to filter it yourself you could.

Most people pay for city water. Granted this is a fraction the cost of bottled water and doesn't come with the same enviromental impact, but you are paying for it. :)

[cheapie]

you're right. but the majority of the time people buy water bottles is when they're out and about. and you can generally find good water for free wherever you are.

[Mommypooh]

I perfer to buy Ice Mountain water when I do buy it. It is the only one I can stand. I then just put my bottles in the dishwasher and then refill them. I have been using the same 2 cases of water for the last 2 months. I still have enough bottles to get me through. I just like being able to grab one and drink it instead of having to get ice in a glass and then waiting on the water to cool off enough to drink. Plus I do drink a lot more having it in an easy to grab adn go out the door package right now. I don't tend to buy any when I am out. I will stop at a water fountain or something to refill if I didn't bring enough.

Now I have to agree Indy water is nasty. I ahve to take my own water from home when we travel to visit family in Indy. I take a couple of little bottles and I take a couple of Milk jugs that I have refilled and if I run out I will buy a gallon of Spring water at Kroger.

I also do save my bottles to recycle when i am done with them cause my friends school that she is starting up collects the recycleables and uses the money towards the school, so it is an incentive for me to save them.

[cheapie]

we keep old water bottles, fill them maybe 20% of the way up and throw them in the freezer. that way we can just top them off when we go somewhere and we have ice cold water. works great.

[Prngr44]

My wife swore she liked Ice Mountain until I made her do the blind taste test. She failed... miserably.

Now we just use a Brita pitcher and reuse bottles to have it on the go.

[uncledaddy]

folks...IT'S WATER!!!!! can you think of a single thing that more accurately typifies the american consumer than a discussion on which brand of water is best???

first of all, you're paying ridiculous amounts of money for something that's FREE! second, do you know how how many water bottles fill our landfills every year? lots. about 90% of the water bottles used never get recycled. and guess how many americans use...2.5 million bottles of water are used EVERY HOUR in the US.

The energy we waste using bottled water would be enough to power 190,000 homes. And making all of the bottles for the US requires more than 1.5 million barrels of oil annually. That's enough to fuel 100,000 cars!!!

And when I hear people talk about buying Fiji water I almost start to hyperventilate! No offense Ray but what we're talking about is taking water, the most abundant natural resource in the world and one which you likely don't have to walk more than 50 feet in any direction to find, and SHIPPING IT FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD!!! Not only do the plastic bottles use valuable petroleum to make, but the process of making bottles isn't great for the environment, you have to ship the stuff across the ocean, put it on trucks, move it to a warehouse, put it on a smaller truck, move it to a gas station, create energy to keep it cool, and then put it in your hand.

or you can simply pour tap water into a brita pitcher and get the exact same thing!


aarrrgggghhhh! and the same people...nm. needless to say i find this discussion incomprehensible.
I agree with you to a point. I don't know if you have ever lived in a rural area where your water supply comes from underground wells. Over 50% of the nation relies on ground water for their supplies. As I mentioned in my previous post I lived in a rural community of San Diego and the water always had high concentrations of nitrates and nitrites. Almost double the government allowable limits. For those who don't know where this comes from it comes from livestock runoff, septic tank leaching, and fertilizer. You didn't want to wash your car with this stuff much less drink it. And it's hard to trust that home filtration systems can clean it up enough, ( It frightens you when you receive notices on your gate twice a month ). I for one recycle every bottle that my family consumes. Then you consider the results of boycotting bottle water because of the energy wasted in production, I believe the impact on the economy would be terrible.:cheers:

[zenbooty]

I buy the bottles of water that make your tongue and throat burn on the way down.

[ray]

Never had it..is it REALLY from Fiji? I knew a guy once that though that Poland Springs was from Poland..then I told him to read the bottled-he was depressed after that..lol

Yes, it is from Fiji (http://fijiwater.com/Bottled.aspx)

[yippiekiyeh]

It's basically a cost cutting measure. Back in the day much more money was spent to have potable water. With cost cutting and corner cutting, good clean water from the tap is a thing of the past.

Any reverse osmosis water is tasty and yes I can taste the difference between arrowhead and sparkletts drinking water, done in many a time in blind taste tests.

[utcpal]

dasani, if I have to buy (when we are out in parks etc)
But, usually fill up the 5 Gal tank on the grocery store outlets for a buck.

[YellowCoffee]

Anything but Arrowhead. I know some have mentioned their affection towards Arrowhead, so my guess is that it really just depend's on people's taste. I remember as a kid when my parents made a transition from tap water to "drinking" water. It took me a while to acquire the taste of the new filtered water, but once I did, I couldn't go back to tap.

It's like those weirdos who start to drink diet soda and can't drink regular soda anymore.:hihi:

[renovation]

ok i started this mess .
i buy what ever is the cheapest by the case .we live on well water 90% of the time . the well for the house is a 2 inch well that was drilled longer then i have own the house .and we have lived in this home going on 20 years now . so we have no idea how old are well is really .its 20 plus years this im sure .i have a water softner installed and we use salt for it .i dont like using salt really as it ends up for the most part back in the septic and field. wonder how much ends up into are bodys. when you have a water softer system that needs salt to clean /flush itself ?

[DarkFury]

It's like those weirdos who start to drink diet soda and can't drink regular soda anymore.:hihi:
I drink Diet Dr. Pepper... but I still prefer the real thing to the Diet.

[GraingerGuy]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=v2qydjVbLJk

There you go...I knew I watched this before...:)

[johnnymk]

I have a reverse osmosis system in my house, so I don't ever buy bottled water.

If it is true that some bottled water is filtered by reverese osmosis, which I highy doubt, it takes approx. 5 gallons of tap water to purify one gallon of water.

[uncledaddy]

I have a reverse osmosis system in my house, so I don't ever buy bottled water.

If it is true that some bottled water is filtered by reverese osmosis, which I highy doubt, it takes approx. 5 gallons of tap water to purify one gallon of water.
If the bottled water is labeled purified you can bet that "reverse osmosis" is one of the steps in the purification process. If you read the fine print on the label it should state this as on Pure Life, however some bottlers allow you to think they have some special state of the art system as with Aquafina and call their filtration method "Hydro-7" in which reverse osmosis is step #4. The "Naturally Pure" waters are filtered naturally as with Evian which runs underground through sand, gravel, and clay at the lower Alps, or Fiji which comes from an artesian aquifer by a rainforest and is filtered naturally through volcanic rock. Just thought I'd let you know if you didn't already. as for 5 gallons for 1 purified, I thought that was with distilled water.:wavey2:

[zippyjuan]

Purififed water can use any of those methods. It is not necessarily better than tap water. Aquafina is just Pepsi without the bubbles, sugar, and additives.
http://edstrom.com/Resources.cfm?doc_id=174

Purified Water is described in the USP 23 monograph as follows:

"Purified Water is water obtained by distillation, ion-exchange treatment, reverse osmosis, or other suitable process. It is prepared from water complying with the regulations of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) with respect to drinking water. It contains no added substances."


Microbial Quality
Regarding the bacteriological purity of PW, the monograph (legally enforceable section) states only that PW must comply with the EPA regulations for drinking water. The EPA regulations only specify limits for coliform bacteria. In the informational section of the USP 23, which deals with action guidelines for the microbial control of ingredient water, it says:

"A total microbial (aerobic) count that may be used for source drinking water is 500 colony-forming units (cfu) per mL. A general guideline for Purified Water may be 100 cfu/mL."

These numbers for cfu/mL are only advisory guidelines that represent recommended alert/action limits, not reject levels. The informational section also suggests that the microbial action limits for PW should be based on the intended use of the water and the nature of the product being made. It recognizes that microbial limits for PW require being defined on a case-by-case basis.



I am with Cheapie on bottled water being a huge environmental waste except for areas without decent drinking water supplies. But then again. our economy is built on making things, buying them, throwing them away, and making another, etc.

[Napoleon54]

I am with Cheapie on bottled water being a huge environmental waste except for areas without decent drinking water supplies. But then again. our economy is built on making things, buying them, throwing them away, and making another, etc.
:stupid: I'm with Cheapie too.

But I take issue with the rest of that. Yea our economy is built on all those things... but consumption simply for consumption's sake is wasteful. How about putting all that time and resources toward providing something that isn't readily available in most people's homes at nearly zero cost? Putting that enormous amount of economic energy toward something as frivilous as bottled water is ridiculously wasteful. There are many much better things that society could be doing with those resources.

I always keep tap water in the 'fridge for quick drinking.... be it in a pitcher, Nalgene bottles, or reused bottled water bottles. On the rare occasions in which I do buy a bottle of water, maybe once per month at most, I look for Poland Spring. If PS isn't available then I get the generic one. I refuse to buy Dasani or Aquafina because they're made by Coke and Pepsi, respectively, and I don't like either of those companies. (I despise companies that survive almost entirely on advertising... more wastefulness IMHO.)

[johnnymk]

"A total microbial (aerobic) count that may be used for source drinking water is 500 colony-forming units (cfu) per mL. A general guideline for Purified Water may be 100 cfu/mL."


I have a TDL meter. It measures total dissolved solids. There are two prestage filters and another filter in my reverse osmosis unit. I replace the two prestage filter about every 18 months. I haven't replaced the other filter yet because my readings haven't gone over 10 ppm.

It is highly recommended that this filter as well as the other two filters be replaced if the count exceeds 500 ppm.
I am not sure if this reading is just for chemicals and other solids or if it also includes microbial count.

I would love to see what most bottled water has for TDL's.

[Devhux]

Aquafina for me......though I admit I don't drink water all that regularly.

[DarkFury]

I have a reverse osmosis system in my house, so I don't ever buy bottled water.

If it is true that some bottled water is filtered by reverese osmosis, which I highy doubt, it takes approx. 5 gallons of tap water to purify one gallon of water.
The water station at the Wal-Mart (named "Water Island") clearly states that the water is reverse osmosis filtered.

Therefore there is no need for doubting...

[cheapie]

It's basically a cost cutting measure. Back in the day much more money was spent to have potable water. With cost cutting and corner cutting, good clean water from the tap is a thing of the past.


are you kidding me??? do you have any stats to back this up?

[cheapie]

The water station at the Wal-Mart (named "Water Island") clearly states that the water is reverse osmosis filtered.

Therefore there is no need for doubting...


:heh: now that's funny!

[Napoleon54]

The water station at the Wal-Mart (named "Water Island") clearly states that the water is reverse osmosis filtered.

Therefore there is no need for doubting...

'cuz a sign says so? I'd question the quality of the system, and the competency of the people operating it.

Kinda like how the sign says "we reserve the right to inspect all packages"... meaning they can search your bags? No, they don't have the right to search people. Posting a sign doesn't make it so.

[DarkFury]

'cuz a sign says so? I'd question the quality of the system, and the competency of the people operating it.

Kinda like how the sign says "we reserve the right to inspect all packages"... meaning they can search your bags? No, they don't have the right to search people. Posting a sign doesn't make it so.
Well geez...

If you can't trust the inspector's monthly inspection sticker on said island, then I guess you can't trust ANYTHING in this world huh?

Either way... as stated before, the water that comes from said station tastes very clean (definitely tastes better/cleaner than the water out of my tap), therefore I personally have no reason to suspect that their sign/label is lying to me.

[Jeffbx]

Aquafina is just Pepsi without the bubbles, sugar, and additives.
http://edstrom.com/Resources.cfm?doc_id=174

...and the source of said water is the nearest public supply - i.e., tap water. I think it was Aquafina that posted right on their label: "Source: New Jersey Tap" for their east coast distribution.

The only places I won't drink the tap water is if it's coming from a well with a heavy taste, or when I'm in India.

[cheapie]

the real question DF is...did you buy the extended warranty on the water? hmmm?


:hihi:

[Napoleon54]

Well geez...

If you can't trust the inspector's monthly inspection sticker on said island, then I guess you can't trust ANYTHING in this world huh?

Either way... as stated before, the water that comes from said station tastes very clean (definitely tastes better/cleaner than the water out of my tap), therefore I personally have no reason to suspect that their sign/label is lying to me.

Nothing personal... just considering my opinion of Wal-Mart, I feel obligated to give them a hard time. :D

[yippiekiyeh]

are you kidding me??? do you have any stats to back this up?



Clean Water State Revolving Funds Slashed in FY07 Budget

WASHINGTON, Feb. 6 /PRNewswire/ -- The Council of Infrastructure Financing Authorities (CIFA), a national affiliation of state programs that finance community wastewater and drinking water projects, today expressed its great concern about the continued significant cut in federal funding for the Clean Water State Revolving Fund (CWSRF) program in the President's Fiscal Year 2007 Budget.
The proposed $688 million represents a 22% reduction from the previous year and, if approved by Congress, would result in CWSRF funding having been cut nearly 50% over the last three years.
Linky (http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/02-06-2006/0004275723&EDATE=)

Linky2 (http://www.epa.gov/ocfo/budget/2007/2007bib.pdf) EPA budgets for 2007. Shows the decrease in the budgeting for states money for clean water.

This doesn't take into account what has happened in the 2006 budget.

Here is what I'm talking about, a 22% cut over last year's budgeting and nearly 50% cut over the last three years. I'd say that this is a trend. Which makes sense, bu$ine$$ $en$e

[DarkFury]

the real question DF is...did you buy the extended warranty on the water? hmmm?


:hihi:

Well considering that we can't keep the water.... we only "borrow" it then we give it right back to the city later in the day, no... I didn't bother with a warranty on it. :D

[DarkFury]

Nothing personal... just considering my opinion of Wal-Mart, I feel obligated to give them a hard time. :D
obviously...

But dayuum.. I really don't think they are all that worried about the "hard time" you are giving them. :D

[Napoleon54]

Linky (http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/02-06-2006/0004275723&EDATE=)

Linky2 (http://www.epa.gov/ocfo/budget/2007/2007bib.pdf) EPA budgets for 2007. Shows the decrease in the budgeting for states money for clean water.

This doesn't take into account what has happened in the 2006 budget.

Here is what I'm talking about, a 22% cut over last year's budgeting and nearly 50% cut over the last three years. I'd say that this is a trend. Which makes sense, bu$ine$$ $en$e

Quoting money numbers doesn't do anything for me, that's a game politicians play. How about stats on the % of the population that does have clean water, versus those who don't? How have those numbers changed over time? Perhaps funding isn't necessary because goals have been accomplished (eg. infrastructure development). Perhaps the money was officially labeled as "clean water funding", but a lot of the resources were used to indirectly fund other things (eg. riders and pork, etc).

[yippiekiyeh]

Quoting money numbers doesn't do anything for me, that's a game politicians play. How about stats on the % of the population that does have clean water, versus those who don't? How have those numbers changed over time? Perhaps funding isn't necessary because goals have been accomplished (eg. infrastructure development). Perhaps the money was officially labeled as "clean water funding", but a lot of the resources were used to indirectly fund other things (eg. riders and pork, etc).


First off, I submit it to you that your question is beyond the scope of my expertise. My statement originally was that funding has been cut in order for the rise of bottled water to occur.

It is easy to figure out that the United States has been increasing in population relative to this budgeting (witness the population rise past 300 million people). It also stands to reason if you have less money budgeted and more people living in the US, you have less $$ per person budgeted.

I would love to drink water from the tap, just like when I was younger. I think there is a correlation between the saftey of the clean drinking water and less money spent to take care of the infrastructure of our clean water.

[InfiniteNothing]

Which he doesn't have a problem with. In fact, he's probably happy about less $/p. Give him some PPM, CFU, etc numbers. That would be stronger evidence.

[Napoleon54]

First off, I submit it to you to do the extra digging to answer your own questions. My statement originally was that funding has been cut in order for the rise of bottled water to occur.
Hey dude, it's not my responsibility to research/ back up your claims. You're the one who mentioned it, therefore you're the one obligated to provide some data.


It is easy to figure out that the United States has been increasing in population relative to this budgeting (witness the population rise past 300 million people). It also stands to reason if you have less money budgeted and more people living in the US, you have less $$ per person budgeted.
Saying that funding should always be X% of the budget, regardless of if it is needed or not, is just silly. Funding should be based on need. If the goals of previous funding have been achieved, then let's move on and tackle other problems.

[yippiekiyeh]

Which he doesn't have a problem with. In fact, he's probably happy about less $/p. Give him some PPM, CFU, etc numbers. That would be stronger evidence.


Perhaps you're right, but I'm not an expert in this, never claimed to be, I wouldn't know where to look...

[yippiekiyeh]

Hey dude, it's not my responsibility to research/ back up your claims. You're the one who mentioned it, therefore you're the one obligated to provide some data.


Saying that funding should always be X% of the budget, regardless of if it is needed or not, is just silly. Funding should be based on need. If the goals of previous funding have been achieved, then let's move on and tackle other problems.


Perhaps it isn't your responsibility to do the research. You don't like my answer. I have said, that budget cuts have fueled the rise of bottled water. I have shown that this indeed is true, what else do you want from me?

[Jcranmer]

Just saw this over on fark.
Water Bar sells bottled water for $55 per liter!
http://wcbstv.com/seenon/local_story_193212517.html

[cheapie]

Perhaps it isn't your responsibility to do the research. You don't like my answer. I have said, that budget cuts have fueled the rise of bottled water. I have shown that this indeed is true, what else do you want from me?


the problem is that you said the budget has been cut and now the water is crappy. we're just curious about the latter part of your statement.

[yippiekiyeh]

the problem is that you said the budget has been cut and now the water is crappy. we're just curious about the latter part of your statement.

Give me some additional time. The aggregate data is enormous. I'm looking at previous years vs. the number of violations per water district in the EPA. Violations being water districts not being up to the EPA standard.

So it is going to take me some time, I'm trying to justify it, but the enormity of the reports are going to take me some time to sift through and distill.

[DarkFury]

All of this ... over water????

Good lord.... :shrug: :2far:

[johnnymk]

One good thing about WalMart is that if you don't like something you can take it back.

[cheapie]

...are going to take me some time to sift through and distill.

no pun intended? :hihi:

[cheapie]

All of this ... over water????

Good lord.... :shrug: :2far:


are you kidding me? this isn't even close to one of the dumbest things debated here! :wavey:

[yippiekiyeh]

All of this ... over water????

Good lord.... :shrug: :2far:


You're right, but what can I do? I'm being called on the carpet for statements I've said. Thank goodness someone didn't ask me to prove that I love my parents or something along those lines.

[yippiekiyeh]

no pun intended? :hihi:

hehe no pun intended, yes :thumbup:

[uncledaddy]

ok i started this mess .
i buy what ever is the cheapest by the case .we live on well water 90% of the time . the well for the house is a 2 inch well that was drilled longer then i have own the house .and we have lived in this home going on 20 years now . so we have no idea how old are well is really .its 20 plus years this im sure .i have a water softner installed and we use salt for it .i dont like using salt really as it ends up for the most part back in the septic and field. wonder how much ends up into are bodys. when you have a water softer system that needs salt to clean /flush itself ?
Bet you didn't anticipate the debate.....but it is a little interesting. When I lived in Campo I don't know what I would have done without bottled water.:wavey2:

[Markel]

Joining this discussion a little late (drove to Atlanta and back in the past week for the volleyball nationals). We have a reverse osmosis system in our home. Once you get used to the taste of pure water, regular tap water tastes like crap. We refill plastic bottles regularly (I carry a 1.5 liter bottle to work every day). When traveling I tend to buy gallons of reverse osmosis purified water.

[uncledaddy]

Funny... I just watched a segment on water treatment plants on the Science Channel, How It's Made. I didn't realize all the chemicals needed in order to treat the water in the system...Including highly toxic chlorine. Stated if a leak occurs they would have to evacuate a six mile radius. Kinda makes bottled water look even more desirable, huh? Of course that's unless the bottled water came from a regular tap anyway. Can you ever get away from that?...Hmmmm.

[zippyjuan]

Well at least we don't have to deal with the water problems that China has. The northern areas are running dry. Over one quarter of their rivers are so polluted that you cannot even bathe in them. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/b6ce981a-2a33-11dc-9208-000b5df10621.html

World Bank and government researchers recently estimated that 60,000 people in China are dying prematurely each year because of poor quality water, mainly in rural areas.

Water pollution has become a hot topic following huge outbreaks of algae in China’s Taihu, Chaohu and Dianchi lakes. Wen Jiabao, the premier, this month ordered local officials to “strengthen supervision and ban factories from discharging pollutants into the lakes”.

But Beijing leaders have often issued such instructions, and Mr Pan of Sepa left no doubt that past ap*proaches were not working.

In a chilling description of the scale of the challenge, he said 26 per cent of water in China’s seven biggest river systems had been found to be unable to support animal life, or was dangerous even to bathe in.



Bottled water is about the only drinking or cooking water some people can get that is safe. But even that has been counterfitted- dirty water bottled and even given fake safety stamps and sold. http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSPEK397820070710

Three years ago, a nationwide inspection on barrelled water found a 22 percent substandard rate. In the most serious case, 80 percent of barrelled water in the southern province of Jiangxi was reportedly not the real thing.

[johnnymk]

Joining this discussion a little late (drove to Atlanta and back in the past week for the volleyball nationals). We have a reverse osmosis system in our home. Once you get used to the taste of pure water, regular tap water tastes like crap. We refill plastic bottles regularly (I carry a 1.5 liter bottle to work every day). When traveling I tend to buy gallons of reverse osmosis purified water.


:stupid:

There is nothing better tasting than pure water. Plus when I use teabags, I don't get that weird foam in my cups anymore.

[johnnymk]

Well at least we don't have to deal with the water problems that China has. The northern areas are running dry. Over one quarter of their rivers are so polluted that you cannot even bathe in them. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/b6ce981a-2a33-11dc-9208-000b5df10621.html


Bottled water is about the only drinking or cooking water some people can get that is safe. But even that has been counterfitted- dirty water bottled and even given fake safety stamps and sold. http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSPEK397820070710

I recall that Russia's rivers are very polluted, too.

[DarkFury]

are you kidding me? this isn't even close to one of the dumbest things debated here! :wavey:
Honestly, there just has to be a point where everyone just "agrees to disagree" if they can't come to a concurrance. :shrug:

[utcpal]

I saw a news article on ABC, where in Newyork, they have opened up Water place (just like coffe-houses), where the waters are sold in designer-bottles and the costliest one is for $55.
$55 for water ? And people buy that ? Oh man!

[DarkFury]

I saw a news article on ABC, where in Newyork, they have opened up Water place (just like coffe-houses), where the waters are sold in designer-bottles and the costliest one is for $55.
$55 for water ? And people buy that ? Oh man!
People go to "air bars" and buy oxygen....

So honestly... I'm not surprised. :shrug:

[Napoleon54]

Aquafina labels to spell out source - tap water
Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:30PM EDT

By Martinne Geller

NEW YORK (Reuters) - PepsiCo Inc. will spell out that its Aquafina bottled water is made with tap water, a concession to the growing environmental and political opposition to the bottled water industry.

According to Corporate Accountability International, a U.S. watchdog group, the world's No. 2 beverage company will include the words "Public Water Source" on Aquafina labels.

"If this helps clarify the fact that the water originates from public sources, then it's a reasonable thing to do," said Michelle Naughton, a Pepsi-Cola North America spokeswoman.

Pepsi Chief Executive Indra Nooyi told Reuters earlier this week the company was considering such a move.

Pepsi's Aquafina and Coca-Cola Co's Dasani are both made from purified water sourced from public reservoirs, as opposed to Danone's Evian or Nestle's Poland Spring, so-called "spring waters," shipped from specific locations the companies say have notably clean water.

Coca-Cola Co. told Reuters it will start posting online information about the quality control testing it performs on Dasani by the end of summer or early fall.

"Concerns about the bottled-water industry, and increasing corporate control of water, are growing across the country," said Gigi Kellett, director of the "Think Outside the Bottle" campaign, which aims to encourage people to drink tap water.

San Francisco's mayor banned city employees from using city funds to buy bottled water when tap water is available. Ann Arbor, Michigan passed a resolution banning commercially bottled water at city events and Salt Lake City, Utah asked department heads to eliminate bottled water.

Critics charge the bottled water industry adds plastic to landfills, uses too much energy by producing and shipping bottles across the world and undermines confidence in the safety and cleanliness of public water supplies, all while much of the world's population is without access to clean water.

But industry observers said such opposition is unlikely to drain U.S. sales of bottled water, which reached 2.6 billion cases in 2006, according to Beverage Digest. The industry newsletter estimated that U.S. consumers spent about $15 billion on bottled water last year.

"Consumers have an affection for bottled water. It's not an issue of taste or health, it's about convenience," the newsletter's publisher, John Sicher, said. "Try walking up (New York City's) Third Avenue on a hot day and getting a glass of tap water."

Dave Kolpak, a portfolio manager at Victory Capital Management, said the environmental objections will have little impact on the bottom line for either Pepsi or Coke, though he admitted it could slow the market's growth rate.

"Pepsi and Coke do not make a lot of profit" on bottled water, said Kolpak, adding that people may talk about the issue, but will likely continue buying some bottled water. Victory Capital owns about 3 million shares of PepsiCo among its $62 billion under management.

Linky (http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSN2620706220070726?rpc=92)

[ray]

Aquafina's source may be tap water, but it it still going through reverse osmosis before being sold. As someone mentioned earlier, the cost for a home reverse osmosis setup can be costly and speaking on behalf of those of us who happen to rent, well, i'm definitely not shelling out the cash to get it installed in a place that isn't my own.

I used to drink tap water growing up in NJ, but in LA I always used a Brita filter or drank bottled water because the LA water tasted pretty nasty.

[Markel]

I would take a reverse osmosis filtered water over a "natural source" bottled water any day.

[surfer]

I drink San Diego tap water run through the filter on my fridge. Cost $35 for filters which I replace once a year. Taste better than tap water but not as good as Sparkletts. A plus is the ice taste better than when I use to make them by hand with tap water into trays.