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zippyjuan
07-31-2007, 10:56 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6923642.stm

Cannabis harm worse than tobacco

The impact of cannabis is worsened by how joints are smoked
A single cannabis joint could damage the lungs as much as smoking up to five tobacco cigarettes one after another, scientists in New Zealand have said.
The research, published in the journal Thorax, found cannabis damaged the large airways in the lungs causing symptoms such as coughing and wheezing.

It also damaged the ability of the lungs to get oxygen to, and remove waste products from tissues.

Experts say the study confirms that the drug represents a serious health risk.

This research confirms that cannabis poses a serious health risk to the lungs, and smoking a joint can be more harmful to the lungs than smoking a cigarette

Dr Keith Prowse
British Lung Foundation

In the study researchers from the Medical Research Institute of New Zealand, Wakefield Hospital and the Wellington School of Medicine and Health Sciences, studied 339 volunteers.

They took CT scans of their lungs and tested their lung function through breathing tests to assess their lung damage.

Participants were divided into four groups - cannabis smokers, combined cannabis and tobacco smokers, tobacco smokers, and non-smokers, and gave them a questionnaire on their smoking habits.

Cannabis smokers were included if they had smoked at least one joint per day for at least five years, while tobacco smokers had to have smoked 20 cigarettes per day for one year.


One joint could cause as much damage as up to five cigarettes

Cannabis smokers reported symptoms such as wheezing, coughing, chest tightness and excessive phlegm production.

The drug also reduced the numbers of small, fine airways that transport oxygen and waste products to and from blood vessels in the lungs.

And it damaged the function of the large airways of the lungs, obstructing air flow and forcing the lungs to work harder, so contributing to symptoms such as coughing, and the development of bronchitis.

The extent of this large airway damage was directly related to the number of joints smoked - the more joints smoked, the more damage was seen.

However, in this study, people who smoked only cannabis were not found to suffer from emphysema, a serious and crippling lung disease which was previously thought to be linked to the drug.

Impact

The authors said: "The most important finding was that one joint of cannabis was similar to 2.5 to five tobacco cigarettes in terms of causing airflow obstruction.

They said the impact of cannabis was likely to be due to the way in which cannabis joints are smoked - joints do not usually have filters, and they reach higher temperatures with users inhaling more deeply and holding their breath for longer than cigarette smokers.

The British Lung Foundation welcomed the research, and Dr Keith Prowse, chairman of the foundation said: "This research confirms that cannabis poses a serious health risk to the lungs, and smoking a joint can be more harmful to the lungs than smoking a cigarette.

"It's important to remember, though, that tobacco continues to be more harmful overall because it is typically smoked in much higher quantities than cannabis."

The warnings come after recent research suggested cannabis smokers were 40% more likely than non-users to suffer psychotic illnesses such as schizophrenia.

Danny Kushlick, of the campaign group Transform Drug Policy Foundation, said the finding that smoking cannabis did not cause emphysema suggested it was wrong to characterise the drug as more harmful than tobacco.

He said: "The relative dangers of smoking dope are far less of a public health problem than those associated with the use alcohol and tobacco."

He also stressed that making the drug illegal did nothing to reduce any dangers that might be associated with it. In fact, he argued that its illegal status led to a lack of quality control.

johnnymk
08-01-2007, 05:34 AM
Makes sense to me, especially since a pot smoker has to deeply inhale the vapors. And I believe the schizophrenic diagnoses too.

oblongmelon
08-01-2007, 07:14 AM
Makes sense to me, especially since a pot smoker has to deeply inhale the vapors. And I believe the schizophrenic diagnoses too.

Hey Johnny, did you ever spark up a doobie yourself? And yes, I can admit back in my single days, I did a bit of inhaling myself..naturally, this was BEFORE nursing school.

mojo
08-01-2007, 07:24 AM
so...brownies are safer then :chef:

johnnymk
08-01-2007, 07:53 AM
Hey Johnny, did you ever spark up a doobie yourself? And yes, I can admit back in my single days, I did a bit of inhaling myself..naturally, this was BEFORE nursing school.

Yep, quite a few back in the early seventies :bandit:

Practically everyone I knew back then did it. And it was cheap too.

When I first smoked (toked), I thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Two years later, I totally changed my mind.

VTGreg
08-01-2007, 09:34 AM
It isn't surprising that smoking a joint is worse than smoking a cigarette for the reasons detailed in the article. However, not all pot is smoke via joint and the negative impacts described would not be nearly as bad if smoked via bong or pipe.

Thesifer
08-01-2007, 10:09 AM
I love these studies, You always have one that says its not bad for you, then one that says it's really bad for you, etc.

I think the only thing people care about is, does it cause cancer?

Napoleon54
08-01-2007, 12:05 PM
I think pot should be deillegalized. It sounds like filtered joints (is it still a "joint" if it has a filter?) would be a health improvement for those who wish to induldge, and that probably won't happen unless they're manufactured.

uncledaddy
08-01-2007, 01:15 PM
so...brownies are safer then :chef:
:laugh:

Agent Plissken
08-01-2007, 03:56 PM
deillegalized

lol.
Thats a fancy way of saying "legalized" i guess.

Napoleon54
08-01-2007, 07:59 PM
lol.
Thats a fancy way of saying "legalized" i guess.

A subtle philosophical point I always try to make, I'm glad you picked up on that! It's a reflection of what the default legal/illegal state of things is in a society is.

In a free society, such as ours supposedly is, citizens start with infinite rights and government takes them away by making certain things illegal. Citizens can do anything they want unless goverment takes that freedom away. Smoking pot is by default allowable in our society, but in practice it is made illegal because government has specifically passed laws to take that freedom away. Thus IMHO it's more appropriate to say "deillegalize" because allowing people to smoke pot again would be an act of repealling or undoing the law(s) which made it illegal.

In contrast, a socialist government starts with all the power and then grants certain things to citizens. Everything is illegal unless people are specifically allowed to do it. That's only when the term "legalize" is more appropriate, 'cause by default it was illegal to begin with and legislation is needed to legalize the activity.

So making pot smoking an acceptible activity is entirely a different action depending on which type of system you're dealing with. In a socialist society it would be the act of granting the right to the people (legaliazing it), whereas in a free society it is the act of making it no longer illegal (deillegalizing it). It's all relative to where you started from. Thus "legalize" and "deillegalize" are kinda the same, but not really.

I hope that made sense. :)

Burzhui
08-02-2007, 07:11 PM
joints are for people who don't know any better, you then upgrade to water pipes/bongs, cooling pipes... and as of recent... vaporizers :) mwahahaha


NORML!