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johnnymk
04-02-2008, 08:07 AM
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/02/elektra_barker_dismissal_rejection/

By Andrew Orlowski → A US Judge on Monday upheld the view that sharing copyrighted music is infringement. It's a defeat for defendant Denise Barker and the Electronic Frontier Foundation, and a victory for the four record labels in the case, led by Warner's Elektra.

The Copyright Act is fairly clear. It defines "publication" as "offering to distribute copies or phonorecords to a group of persons for purposes of further distribution, public performance, or public display" - but sensibly separates out performance or display itself from the definition. The legal code defines five exclusive rights of copyright: reproduction, adaptation, publication, performance, and display.

Now, digital media blurs the distinction between performance and distribution in lots of interesting ways, but unfortunately, none of these were raised in the case. The EFF instead homed in on the technical point of whether publication was distribution.

Barker had been sued in 2005 for sharing songs via the Kazaa P2P network. This lawsuit is a Motion to Dismiss the earlier ruling. The EFF argued that the labels had failed to prove the songs "were illegally downloaded or distributed by Defendant", had failed to point out the time and date of an infringement, and that the 2005 case violated the defendant's right to "fair notice" ie time required to prepare a defence. There was no proof that an "actual transfer" of copyright material had taken place, the EFF argued.

On the first point Judge Kenneth Karas agreed that the labels hadn't been able to offer proof, and even agreed that the defendants had failed to provide dates and times - but all that was irrelevant to the argument.

The EFF's case is "without merit", the Judge said, pointing out that the prosecution didn't need to. "The Court must assume the truth of all well-pleaded allegations of infringement," the Judge pointed out.

Judge Karas noted that the EFF had previously argued that because the Copyright Act defines sound recordings as "material objects", digital copies were not covered. No, really. But because the argument had not been raised in Elektra vs Barker, he couldn't comment.

The judge concluded that publication and distribution were synonymous, and "this choice of language was not a mere slip of the pen".

It wasn't all plain sailing for the record labels, though.

The judge took issue with the straightforward equation of "making available" with distribution. Making available isn't language that's in the Act, and it's because of cases like this that the copyright holders want to see it included. Some earlier courts have supported the notion of "making available" being equivalent to distribution, the Judge noted, but only in a limited sense.

"The great majority of courts that have considered the question, however, have stopped short of fully endorsing the 'make available' right. Instead, many such courts have expressed interest in the possible viability of the 'make available' right, without expressly reading the right into the statute or otherwise resolving the issue."

However, because Congress didn't expressly equate the offering to distribute with making available, the court concluded, the record labels failed to state a claim.

Summing up, the Court rejected the argument that the labels' "making available" argument was invalid, and so threw out the EFF's motion to dismiss the case. ®

DarkFury
04-02-2008, 08:45 AM
What does folder sharing have to do with copyrighted music distribution?

You can share all the folders you want, however if you give out files of copyrighted material, then of course you have violated the rules of the law (not to say that folks aren't gonna do it anyways.)

Besides, many folks who "share" the music... don't already own the originals to those songs which in itself violates the rules of making backups to your own music collection.

:shrug:

beachgirl
04-03-2008, 09:10 AM
What about different formats? For instance you own 100 cassettes which are pretty much obsolete and you download the same songs you own on the cassettes from a site or shared folder. Is that wrong? You already bought the music once. Would the same go for albums? If a person bought the music I don't think it should be infringement but I do not know what the law states. Anyone?

Jeffbx
04-03-2008, 10:39 AM
Here's what has HISTORICALLY been the case (subject to change at any given time, of course):

DOWNLOADING is not a big deal, comparitively. RIAA usually doesn't try to prosecute downloaders for that reason - if you own the music in question, it's not a violation (or at least you have a firm ground to argue from - at worst it's questionable.)

However, if you SHARE music, you're now a distributor, which is totally illegal whether you own the music or not. Much easier to prosecute since the law is very clear on that point. Distrubition of copyrighted material is a no-no, whether or not you own a copy and whether or not you charge for it. Given that most popular file sharing formats force you to share if you download, it's still a big risk even if your only intention is to download & not to share.

beachgirl
04-03-2008, 07:24 PM
So do you think the same would go for putting all your VCR tapes on DVD? It would be okay as long as you do not distribute or share them?

DarkFury
04-04-2008, 05:34 AM
So do you think the same would go for putting all your VCR tapes on DVD? It would be okay as long as you do not distribute or share them?
As long as you don't distribute... you can backup any movies or music in your own personal collection.

Jeffbx
04-04-2008, 05:36 AM
Sure, as long as you're not sharing copies you can put it on whatever media you want because 1) the law is a little fuzzy in that area, and 2) no one cares what you as an individual does with your movies. The RIAA/MPAA only care about 'distributors'.

beachgirl
04-04-2008, 07:05 PM
Thanks, I guess I can safely put all my movies on DVD then. Grooovy.

Maarchk
04-07-2008, 10:53 AM
What does folder sharing have to do with copyrighted music distribution?

You can share all the folders you want, however if you give out files of copyrighted material, then of course you have violated the rules of the law (not to say that folks aren't gonna do it anyways.)

Besides, many folks who "share" the music... don't already own the originals to those songs which in itself violates the rules of making backups to your own music collection.

:shrug:

DF,
I think when you right click on a folder to share it on the network is asks are you sure you want to make this folder available to other computers. And the RIAA is trying to grab onto that wording. Because if that is outlawed, then anyone sharing a folder of music, possibly even on a local network could get in trouble because they had "made available" music. The reason they wish to fight for this is because like the EFF said, they can't say, Mark downloaded Peaches and Cream from DF on april 12th at 3 pm. Its a very hard thing to track especially with their 1000's of attempts to get people. But they could easily say, this folder was shared by DF and thus he was making music available.
If i share the crappiest music ever, and no one takes it... am i breaking the law? they want the answer to be yes, while most people would say no.

DarkFury
04-07-2008, 12:11 PM
Oh.. ok. Well thanks for the clarification Maarchk.

However in "MY" network, all the computer users in my "shared folder" system are still "me". So I still guess I wouldn't have much cause to worry.

Pretty much... "F the RIAA and their attempts to make our rights to our own music disappear". :2far:

But I still am a little confused here... Here is what the article stated:



Barker had been sued in 2005 for sharing songs via the Kazaa P2P network. This lawsuit is a Motion to Dismiss the earlier ruling. The EFF argued that the labels had failed to prove the songs "were illegally downloaded or distributed by Defendant", had failed to point out the time and date of an infringement, and that the 2005 case violated the defendant's right to "fair notice" ie time required to prepare a defence. There was no proof that an "actual transfer" of copyright material had taken place, the EFF argued.

Is sharing in a P2P system the exact same thing as creating a "shared folder" on a private network? I don't think it is... it might be similar but it's not the same. In a P2P "shared folder" your intent is to share that music with others in order to distribute the file on a mass scale. In a basic closed loop network, I wouldn't think that this is the case. Either way, I do think that they are gonna have a hard time winning on this point.