View Full Version : Never ever talk to the cops, take the 5th always
cruelpupet
06-18-2008, 05:22 PM
A great lecture from a visiting prof and cop on the 5th amendment
Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik
Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fZQWjDVKE
DarkFury
06-18-2008, 07:42 PM
Keep your dayuum mouth shut...
Words to live by... :eek:
eSDee
06-18-2008, 08:17 PM
Can't talk about this without thinking about Chris Rock's guide on how not to get your ass kicked by the police :hihi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8&feature=related
Thesifer
06-18-2008, 09:04 PM
always true. And always hard to do lol.
ShawnLee
06-19-2008, 02:06 AM
I'm happy if everyone else talks to all the cops. As for me - I'm not talking to cops and had decided this a long while ago.
DarkFury
06-19-2008, 09:32 AM
Honestly, it's stuff like this (as well as the random beat downs) why people don't trust the cops.
The key point that hits home is... no matter what you tell the cops (innocently or not) it can be used against you and never will be used in your favor. How can you EVER feel comfortable with them being in judgement of you under those circumstances?
Seriously, "to serve and protect" is somewhat of a joke if this is the scenario that we are operating under. And it's not like everyone can afford a good lawyer to be right there to keep you from saying something that you shouln't (especially since they can make their own "judgements of guilt" based on what you say and how you say it... not on what actually is the situation.)
lindysd
06-19-2008, 09:37 AM
My co-worker claims to have gotten out of 4 traffic violation citations by using this tactic. He ays that the less memorable you make the event and interaction with the officer, the easier it is to change the circumstances in front of a judge. All 4 times he says he admitted to a traffic violations but due to eminent danger was forced to do it. He says it works.
Go figure! -
ArkiStan
06-19-2008, 10:35 AM
What do you do when you're a foreigner?
cruelpupet
06-19-2008, 11:57 AM
What do you do when you're a foreigner?
Nothing. Odds are youre in Gitmo
ArkiStan
06-19-2008, 01:07 PM
gitmo, gitmo-- gitmo, gitmo, gitmo--
too legit-- too legit to quit--
mc hammer
Thesifer
06-19-2008, 05:13 PM
Honestly, it's stuff like this (as well as the random beat downs) why people don't trust the cops.
The key point that hits home is... no matter what you tell the cops (innocently or not) it can be used against you and never will be used in your favor. How can you EVER feel comfortable with them being in judgement of you under those circumstances?
Seriously, "to serve and protect" is somewhat of a joke if this is the scenario that we are operating under. And it's not like everyone can afford a good lawyer to be right there to keep you from saying something that you shouln't (especially since they can make their own "judgements of guilt" based on what you say and how you say it... not on what actually is the situation.)
The sad thing is, no matter what "good cops" there are, the Bad ones will always stick out more. And a lot of the people that decide to become cops are generally "a-holes" anyways.
It's also the problem of, after being a cop for a while, they get a "Everyone is guilty" misconception... Well I guess not a misconception, since everyone is guilty of something at some time in their lives.
DarkFury
06-19-2008, 07:24 PM
The sad thing is, no matter what "good cops" there are, the Bad ones will always stick out more. And a lot of the people that decide to become cops are generally "a-holes" anyways.
It's also the problem of, after being a cop for a while, they get a "Everyone is guilty" misconception... Well I guess not a misconception, since everyone is guilty of something at some time in their lives.
The real problem here is... even a "good cop" is NOT your friend in an "investigation".
Pretty much as those videos state... ANYTHING you say can bounce back and smack you on the @ss. Yet the cops use their "tactics" to get you to say something (even if you are completely innocent).
Yes, they are just doing their jobs... however in doing so, I'm sorta appalled at the "one sided-ness" of doing that job, especially when they are allowed to lie and be subversive in gaining your "confession" and whatnot.
The Happy Squirrel
06-19-2008, 08:38 PM
its not so much of a matter of good cop or bad cop, its a matter is objectiveness, interpretation. i think this was an exceptional video great informaiton
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