Stay classy, Kanye

[Nija]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FtoiYn-sMA

From the VMA's.

:disa:

[mcs328]

Can we just ban him for a few years? I doubt he feels sorry at all. He needs to be blacklisted or something.

[VTGreg]

Video no longer available. What he'd say/do?

[mcs328]

Video no longer available. What he'd say/do?
He stole the mic from Taylor Swift as she was making her acceptance speech so he can basically say that Beyonce was robbed of the award. You know his usual prick antics.

Beyonce of course was very graceful and let Taylor have her moment in the end when she went up for her award. Now that's classy.

[Nija]

Video no longer available. What he'd say/do?
He was his usual repugnant self. mcs' description is accurate.

Here is another link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAfITLK_uLE

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsyJnVJiVk

They are of lower quality. They both seem to be recorded from a cellphone or camcorder off the television.

[VTGreg]

He was his usual repugnant self.

Wouldn't expect anything more from him. God forbid the world not see things through his eyes.

I'm sure MTV doesn't mind the publicity but it'd be great if they just didn't invite him next year.

[mechmike0034]

Tempted to register stfukanye.com

[guiseppewv]

I think you should start a club that is stfu kanye. I would join.

[ArkiStan]

Am I the only one that finds it hard to be emotionally moved by antics such as these because I believe that it is all simply a strategic and intentional way for both the celebrity and the studio to get continuous public attention? Celebrities get to stay in the spotlight (no such thing as bad press, right?) and the event gets a "spontaneous mishap" to raise ratings. He's willingly choosing the bad boy route of becoming a pop icon. Like him or not, as long as he continues to make music that is as popular as it is now, these "spontaneous outbursts" on the sidelines will ensure he makes a mark in the history of pop culture. I'm not a fan, but he seems like a bold and smart guy in that sense. Seriously. C'mon guys. It's MTV.

[VTGreg]

Am I the only one that finds it hard to be emotionally moved by antics such as these because I believe that it is all simply a strategic and intentional way for both the celebrity and the studio to get continuous public attention? Celebrities get to stay in the spotlight (no such thing as bad press, right?) and the event gets a "spontaneous mishap" to raise ratings. He's willingly choosing the bad boy route of becoming a pop icon. Like him or not, as long as he continues to make music that is as popular as it is now, these "spontaneous outbursts" on the sidelines will ensure he makes a mark in the history of pop culture. I'm not a fan, but he seems like a bold and smart guy in that sense. Seriously. C'mon guys. It's MTV.

One can only hope that those that are tired of his antics would make the choice to stop buying his music and hurt him in the only place he cares about, his wallet.

[ray]

it's just a matter of respect. how would kanye react if taylor swift ran up on stage while he was giving an acceptance speech.

kanye may be getting free publicity from all these antics, but he's pissing off a lot of people in the music industry in the process.

[ArkiStan]

One can only hope that those that are tired of his antics would make the choice to stop buying his music and hurt him in the only place he cares about, his wallet.

One can only hope a fan of Kanye's music would be mature enough to look past these antics and deal with the only thing he/she cares about, his music. (assuming Kanye spares enough time from these antics to continue making music that his fans like).

[ArkiStan]

it's just a matter of respect. how would kanye react if taylor swift ran up on stage while he was giving an acceptance speech.

kanye may be getting free publicity from all these antics, but he's pissing off a lot of people in the music industry in the process.

I agree. I never said he was being a gentleman. He is going about his agenda in a selfish ******* way. I doubt many other people in the industry really care though. It will eventually benefit MTV (they got SH!TLOADS or attention = ratings), Taylor Swift and her label (she got SH!TLOADS of press and a ton of sympathy), and Kanye West and his label (he got SH!TLOADS of press).

I know I'm prob just really jaded, but I believe this is all a show and everybody in the industry is laughing. Anybody that finds this newsworthy has fallen for a trick that the Music/TV Industry is playing. As everybody knows, these are dark times for the music labels and and if there is one thing they desperately need more than ever is for kids to get more emotionally involved in their pop music.

Damn, I sound like some sad conspiracy theorist. :bandit:

[VTGreg]

One can only hope a fan of Kanye's music would be mature enough to look past these antics and deal with the only thing he/she cares about, his music. (assuming Kanye spares enough time from these antics to continue making music that his fans like).

I would think that is the opposite of maturity. Maturity would be looking at the guy, saying, "wow, he's an A-hole" and then not supporting him despite liking his music. No different than any other boycott. You don't agree with something that an entity does and as a result you pull your support.

I agree with your assertions that this could be a PR ploy but if people still support him then he is going to keep using the same tactics. Reinforcing his tactics is just going to continue to set a bad example for all those out there that see that behavior and think it is acceptable. Just my opinion but I'd prefer to not perpetuate that type of behavior.

[DarkFury]

it's just a matter of respect. how would kanye react if taylor swift ran up on stage while he was giving an acceptance speech.

kanye may be getting free publicity from all these antics, but he's pissing off a lot of people in the music industry in the process.
Yeah, if roles were reversed, I'm sure that Kanye would not take that very well. It would be funny to see the reaction though. :D I'd almost dare someone to try it just so we could see.

BTW... just in case folks didn't know, Kanye did apologize for his actions, albeit that apology came afterwards in a blog format. Overall, alot of folks are just gonna lump it all in to everything else involving him and just move on along (of course there are gonna be others who will give it more steam and continue analyzing it thus giving him even more press from it instead of letting it go.) Worst thing that probably will happen is that he won't be invited to attend the show next year... boo hoo!!!!! :neartears: (But then again, they probably would invite him just to see what he would do next since they know that people are watchin' his every move... especially based on the feeding frenzy media and papparazzi)

Yeah, what he did was wrong... and I think he realizes it now. I certainly don't condone his action as I would've never done anything like that even if I didn't agree to judging of the award (hence I don't really watch too many award shows anymore since most of them don't vote the way I'd go anyways. :D )

Some have even speculated that there may be a deeper issue here (maybe he's bi-polar or something...) or maybe the fact that he was drinkin' a bottle of Hennessey on the red carpet leading into the event may have added to his sway to feel the need to speak his mind at that in-opportune time.

Either way, I realize that alot of folks love to jump on Kanye's anti-bandwagon... just because he does in fact speak his mind regardless and says stuff that you probably don't agree with. In some cases that's a plus, in others it's a negative. But hey... that's Kanye for ya. :shrug:

It may or may not affect his record sales... that just depends. There are LOTS of "rude" celebrities that still get plenty of press and they don't seem to slow down any from it. And basically I don't think this one incident alone is enough to completely knock him out of the picture. Sure, the few of you may not ever buy another album from him (or maybe you NEVER bought one before and never intended to buy one ever... thus you really aren't really factored into that equation either way I suppose.)

To be honest, before this incident, I didn't even know who Taylor Swift was. Now I somewhat do... although I still really don't know her. But hey, she's getting alot more love and limelight because of it... Funny how that kinda works out. :D

[ArkiStan]

I would think that is the opposite of maturity. Maturity would be looking at the guy, saying, "wow, he's an A-hole" and then not supporting him despite liking his music. No different than any other boycott. You don't agree with something that an entity does and as a result you pull your support.

I agree with your assertions that this could be a PR ploy but if people still support him then he is going to keep using the same tactics. Reinforcing his tactics is just going to continue to set a bad example for all those out there that see that behavior and think it is acceptable. Just my opinion but I'd prefer to not perpetuate that type of behavior.

if by "those out there" you mean kids, (i would hope grownups are smart enough to make decisions for themselves) and if you really believe kids are seriously being influenced by his behavior, yes, i think boycotting his music is a very legitimate way to make your point.

personally, i think he is the least of all the bad influences in this world and don't care what he says/does as long as it doesn't affect his dayjob which is his music.

[Maarchk]

Yeah, what he did was wrong... and I think he realizes it now. I certainly don't condone his action as I would've never done anything like that even if I didn't agree to judging of the award (hence I don't really watch too many award shows anymore since most of them don't vote the way I'd go anyways. :D )

Either way, I realize that alot of folks love to jump on Kanye's anti-bandwagon... just because he does in fact speak his mind regardless and says stuff that you probably don't agree with. In some cases that's a plus, in others it's a negative. But hey... that's Kanye for ya. :shrug:


I can't go with you on this one. I don't think Kanye believes he did a thing wrong. He apologized, or rather probably had it written for him and tossed it out there cause he had to. But i bet that none of his handlers, 'friends', or associates, is going to say, "Hey you shouldn't do that." He has done it before when he lost and there is no real consequence for it.

If you or I hopped up on stage and told someone they sucked, we would be fined, and in jail. This is just a super rich super ego person saying and doing what they want because they know everyone bows to them. If MTV didn't invite him or allow him to be nominated for any awards next year, I bet he'd change his tune. but they won't so he wont.

He didn't just speak his mind. he interrupted a ceremony and told a 19 year old girl, that her hard work and determination weren't good enough because his friend didn't win.

That's not speaking out loud, that's selfish and manner less. And I can't imagine why on earth he should be forgiven for doing it for a 3rd time?

I liked his music, I bought a couple albums, but I'm out. Taylor Swift, i think i heard her name once or twice before this but it doesn't matter who it was. he could have done this to William Hung and I'd think the guy was a egotistical, remorseless bastard.

[ArkiStan]

Well, looks like everything is working out just as planned. Not only are tons of people talking about him on all types of online discussion boards, but he gets prime time coverage on the Jay Leno show just so he can "apologize." I'm sure even Kanye didn't expect to get an honorable mention by the president of the most powerful country in the world.

In the end, some of his previous fans may become fed up and stop buying his music (how much income does record sales generate nowadays anyway?), but an astronomically larger number of people who have never known or paid attention to him are now wondering what's the deal with this dude named "Kanye West" to get so much attention. Many may end up checking out what kind of music he makes and find out many of his tunes are actually quite catchy (they are). And if they're like me and couldn't care less about an artist's "personality," they may become a new fan. Hell, the same goes for some poor country girl named, "Taylor Swift."

Yes, he may actually be a big douchebag at heart. Few of us will ever know for sure. Once thing is for sure, though. Most of his recent behavior is a part of a calculated plan to use notoriety to become a pop "icon" and it's working out wonderfully for him. He will surely go down in the annals of pop culture history.

[LPMiller]

i disagree. I honestly think Kanye has the maturity of a 10 year old, and does things for attention or because he thinks he'll get praise for it, then when he gets called out he acts the little boy. That was very clear to me watching leno last night. He may very well be bi-polar, but there is a maturity there he doesn't seem to have. I do believe he feels sorry, I think he's just missing the part of maturity that tells you not to do things you'll be sorry for later.

[DarkFury]

I can't go with you on this one. I don't think Kanye believes he did a thing wrong. He apologized, or rather probably had it written for him and tossed it out there cause he had to. But i bet that none of his handlers, 'friends', or associates, is going to say, "Hey you shouldn't do that." He has done it before when he lost and there is no real consequence for it.

If you or I hopped up on stage and told someone they sucked, we would be fined, and in jail. This is just a super rich super ego person saying and doing what they want because they know everyone bows to them. If MTV didn't invite him or allow him to be nominated for any awards next year, I bet he'd change his tune. but they won't so he wont.

He didn't just speak his mind. he interrupted a ceremony and told a 19 year old girl, that her hard work and determination weren't good enough because his friend didn't win.

That's not speaking out loud, that's selfish and manner less. And I can't imagine why on earth he should be forgiven for doing it for a 3rd time?

I liked his music, I bought a couple albums, but I'm out. Taylor Swift, i think i heard her name once or twice before this but it doesn't matter who it was. he could have done this to William Hung and I'd think the guy was a egotistical, remorseless bastard.


He knows it is wrong... I'm sure at least that much has gotten through to him. Will that stop him from ever doing it again? I dunno... Like I referred to earlier, there might have been more at play here (i.e. frame of mind, level of intoxication, etc...)

As far as people hoppin' up on stage... Well MTV needs to be blamed for that. Did you notice when "Lil Momma" got up on stage during Jay Z and Alicia Key's duet? She wasn't supposed to be there... but she was. WHERE THE HELL WAS SECURITY?

I bet next year the stage won't be so close to the audience... to prevent folks who feel they need to get on it to step up there.

And like I said, some of you will not buy his future music, but I'm still willing to bet that it will still sell.... enough to keep him in the industry. He makes for "good drama" and the music networks are gonna eat that up like candy.

That's just the way I see it... and I respect your differing opinion.

[DarkFury]

In the end, some of his previous fans may become fed up and stop buying his music (how much income does record sales generate nowadays anyway?), but an astronomically larger number of people who have never known or paid attention to him are now wondering what's the deal with this dude named "Kanye West" to get so much attention. Many may end up checking out what kind of music he makes and find out many of his tunes are actually quite catchy (they are). And if they're like me and couldn't care less about an artist's "personality," they may become a new fan. Hell, the same goes for some poor country girl named, "Taylor Swift."

BINGO!!!

Pretty much, that's what I was referring to. (Right, Wrong, or Indifferent).

[Showtime]

ha ha. silly rabbit...

i think one day he will wondering the streets mumbling about mtv giving out the wrong reward again.

[MrGreg]

For anyone looking for some humor at the expense of Kanye (and Carlos Mencia), Comedy Central is running a marathon of the Kanye episode of South Park tonight.

[Maarchk]

For anyone looking for some humor at the expense of Kanye (and Carlos Mencia), Comedy Central is running a marathon of the Kanye episode of South Park tonight.

I'm watching. it was amusing. Now it' John Stewart ripping ACORN. Also pretty funny.

And I agree with you DF. I think it's like us thinking about speeding. We know it's wrong. We get in trouble, but soon enough, we are right back at it.

MTV does like to be over the top. Wasn't that when bruno fell butt first into Eminem? So i could see it. Just crazyness.

[ArkiStan]

Not sure why they're calling it a "conspiracy" when it's so damn obvious. It's silly that people don't see right through this crap and everything else "newsworthy" that happens on TV.
http://www.movieline.com/2009/09/was-kanye-wests-vma-stunt-planned.php

Jeez. These stupid performances are the specific reason I don't own a TV/Cable. Looks like they're SO effective that I still get caught up in it like this. You win MTV! LOL.

[Jah Rulez]

"Cocaine (Henessey) is a serious drug"-Rick James

It was funny when ODB did it.....Kanye not so much.

[Houdini]

To be fair, his initial "apology" reported Twitted while he was at his "crib" sounded kind of backhanded to me. Additionally, I believe he was still justifying his actions, though also saying they were wrong.

H <---thought the classiest thing of the night was Beyonce giving Swift the spotlight during her speech time. My respect for Beyonce skyrocketed after that. She always seems like a nice person on TV, etc., anyway, so I'm not that surprised, but it was nice to see.

[ray]

thought the classiest thing of the night was Beyonce giving Swift the spotlight during her speech time. My respect for Beyonce skyrocketed after that. She always seems like a nice person on TV, etc., anyway, so I'm not that surprised, but it was nice to see.

true to that.