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renovation
06-04-2010, 12:30 PM
do you still buy gas at BP stations . or do you try to go elsewhere for your gas ~
or
are you the type that go's to who ever has the best price at the time you need to fill up your tank. ( I don`t look at a brand name just the pump price )

Markel
06-04-2010, 03:59 PM
Usually I go by pump price.

Airencracken
06-04-2010, 05:02 PM
I tend to stay with Shell/Chevron, they also have the best prices around here usually.

DarkFury
06-04-2010, 08:56 PM
I'm a Shell patron myself...

cruelpupet
06-05-2010, 07:35 AM
i have been avoiding BP...which isnt hard to do since i dont drive past them too often anymore.

I thought about making a thread as Im surprised there isnt any "boycott BP" emails going around.

VTGreg
06-05-2010, 09:20 AM
i have been avoiding BP...which isnt hard to do since i dont drive past them too often anymore.

I thought about making a thread as Im surprised there isnt any "boycott BP" emails going around.

There is a boycott BP facebook group. I don't think I've bought from BP since the spill but I'll buy whatever is cheapest/most convenient. BP may have made some mistakes that led to the spill and have made some mistakes trying to cap the well but I have no doubt that every other oil company would have operated much the same way. It's an unfortunate scenario but I don't see BP as the villain as many do.

renovation
06-05-2010, 09:46 AM
im just pissed at all the lies we been told.

cruelpupet
06-05-2010, 03:23 PM
There is a boycott BP facebook group.

Guess im not hip...must be getting old.



BP may have made some mistakes that led to the spill and have made some mistakes trying to cap the well but I have no doubt that every other oil company would have operated much the same way. It's an unfortunate scenario but I don't see BP as the villain as many do.

I dont see them as a villain either, no company is evil (except maybe haliburton) its just an organization in search of profit. And that's the problem, the only incentive is not to piss off customers and/or lose money.

From what Im reading it seems that some of these "mistakes" seem more like calculated risks. The decision for these risks might not go all the way to the top, but top management by not explicitly requiring certain safety measures or ensuring that certain protocols were followed are just as guilty by turning a blind eye.

Having said that...it could have just as easily been a Mobile or Gulf rig out there, and the only way to make sure everyones act is together is to make it so painful to F up that it makes more financial sense to delay pumping for a few days or to take the time to test emergency shutoff valves than to take the risk of a spill.

So I would like to see the govt seize 3x or 4x the cost of cleanup, and I'll do my part by avoiding BP stations.

The only problem with avoiding BP stations, is that station owners who will be hit the hardest by this tactic have nothing to do with it.

Yossarian
06-06-2010, 12:02 AM
Guess im not hip...must be getting old.


The only problem with avoiding BP stations, is that station owners who will be hit the hardest by this tactic have nothing to do with it.
they won't get hit with loss of sale from gas, most stations only receive about $0.01 a gallon per sale. where they'll loose big money is on food service. most places, when you buy even a cheap-o sammich, about 35% of that goes directly as profits

LPMiller
06-06-2010, 07:12 AM
when you have a bunch of crack dealers you work with, boycotting one of them because they spilled their rock is less then meaningful. Most BP's are franchises. I don't use BP because it's usually more expensive here. But all the gas we use in Minnesota is made here, from Canadian oil, so I don't even know who I could boycott to make a difference.

VTGreg
06-06-2010, 10:12 AM
when you have a bunch of crack dealers you work with, boycotting one of them because they spilled their rock is less then meaningful. Most BP's are franchises. I don't use BP because it's usually more expensive here. But all the gas we use in Minnesota is made here, from Canadian oil, so I don't even know who I could boycott to make a difference.

Yeah, boycotting BP stations does nothing to hurt BP in the short term. If their gas isn't used at BP stations, it will be sold to other stations and you will use their gasoline without knowing it. They also do far more than just gasoline. You very likely fly on planes that use their jet fuel if you fly much and they also use their petroleum to make many plastic products that you likely use.

cruelpupet
06-06-2010, 03:26 PM
they won't get hit with loss of sale from gas, most stations only receive about $0.01 a gallon per sale. where they'll loose big money is on food service. most places, when you buy even a cheap-o sammich, about 35% of that goes directly as profits


Right but how many people stop at a gas station and dont get gas?

Showtime
06-06-2010, 04:04 PM
**** BP!

And whats up with our government not handling this better? People are losing their livelihood. DONT BUY FROM BP TIL THEY CLEAN IT UP. It's bad enough that it happened. It's terrible how they mishandled it. And to top it off they are a foreign company and our ruing our coast.

LPMiller
06-06-2010, 04:52 PM
what do you think our government can do, exactly? I mean, I've heard a lot of people over the course of the weeks saying things the government should do, most of which aren't legal, or they are the kind of things they got mad at them for doing to GM. And considering government is not exactly full of people with "cleaning up oil" experience, or equipment, I'm not sure they can do more then they are doing.

This is not a government thing, this is a BP thing.

Chgoman
06-06-2010, 06:58 PM
The interesting thing is that in spite of all the bad press right now, BP is actually one of the most if no the most socially and environmentally conscious of the big oil companies. They have a long track record of innovation in alternative fuels and are a leader in solar and wind power.

Obviously they really screwed things up here, but it could have happened to any of the companies.

DarkFury
06-06-2010, 08:21 PM
Right but how many people stop at a gas station and dont get gas?
I have shopped at BP stations for convenience store items without buying gas there.

They have cheap coffee there... and cheap sodas too. Back in the day, the "Wild Bean Cafe" had some of the best fresh sandwiches and soups.. but they closed that part down.

Yet, I didn't buy any gas...

Chgoman
06-07-2010, 10:14 AM
I do like conversations that go like this:

After all that's happened, I'll never buy BP gas again.

Oh, Where do you buy gas then.

I go to Arco...

Jeffbx
06-08-2010, 04:43 AM
I have no idea where my gas comes from - I only go to Costco, and I believe they just buy it from whoever's selling for cheap.

renovation
06-08-2010, 06:13 AM
around me i know BP bought . should i say made some very sweet deals to the people who owned station. that they changed from what ever brand they were to BP stations. BP really put a push on to be the NO.1 station name in the detroit area. im sure it was not all legal how fast ir happen. also knowing the back ground of most store owners. there were lots of loans or kickbacks for them to make the change. i seen it happen in such a short time frame you had to total stupit not to think this way. but who carred the stations got cleaned up and is it not ironic that that BP colors are GREEN and Yellow.
Green -Green is life. Abundant in nature, green signifies growth, renewal, health, and environment. On the flip side, green is jealousy or envy (green-eyed monster) and inexperience.

Gold- Wealth, prosperity, wisdom

mojo
06-08-2010, 01:51 PM
we should boycott them until they go bankrupt. then the taxpayers can clean it all up

renovation
06-08-2010, 04:55 PM
you think they could just send a device like a 20" kotex down the pipe using a torpedo to guide and jam up the hole and stop the oil.

InfiniteNothing
06-08-2010, 09:14 PM
New leak?
http://www.examiner.com/x-6681-New-Orleans-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m6d8-Second-oil-leak-reported-in-the-Gulf-of-Mexico-from-Ocean-Saratoga-rig

Airencracken
06-08-2010, 09:17 PM
we should boycott them until they go bankrupt. then the taxpayers can clean it all up

Implying that we won't be anyway.

mcs328
06-09-2010, 07:11 AM
Do you think the BP franchises should switch to another franchise? If people boycott BP then their non-gas sales would be affected too. Seeing as this would be a very long term memory effect, I would consider switching brand names.

Chgoman
06-09-2010, 08:15 AM
When all is said and done the public has an amazingly short memory once things are done. I think the long term effect on the company will be minimal. Even short term the reality is 95% of people think with their wallet. Most people are going to go to the gas station that is 2 cents cheaper even if it is BP and people will still keep buying at Arco (owned by BP) because it's 10 cents cheaper per gallon on average.

Jah Rulez
06-11-2010, 12:03 PM
I'm trying to figure out how this too is Obama's fault?

Chgoman
06-11-2010, 05:49 PM
Every President gets faulted for whatever events happen during their presidency anymore whether it's warranted or not. Part of the whole partisian politics game and our society today unfortunately.

If Obama had gone down there and held his finger on the leak until they figured out a way to fix it, then maybe he wouldn't be faulted...

He didn't say much of substance for a while and I think people attributed his lack of statements for indifference or something.

Showtime
06-15-2010, 03:20 PM
what do you think our government can do, exactly? I mean, I've heard a lot of people over the course of the weeks saying things the government should do, most of which aren't legal, or they are the kind of things they got mad at them for doing to GM. And considering government is not exactly full of people with "cleaning up oil" experience, or equipment, I'm not sure they can do more then they are doing.

This is not a government thing, this is a BP thing.

Wrong.

This is a government thing. This affects the livelihood and well being of our citizens. The long term effects of the spill can't be gauged. While BP was twiddling their thumbs, not knowing how to clean up the toxic mess that was inching closer and closer to our shores, the government should have paid attention and acted. Boats should have been out there cleaning 24/7 with a running tab to be paid by BP. I have no sympathy for them as a company. They had record profits and now have a record catastrophe. Maybe they can pay for it with those profits, and maybe things will never be the same for bp or our coasts.

BP brands to boycott include Castrol, Arco, Aral, am/pm, Amoco, Wild Bean Cafe and, Safeway gas.