food for thought on Japan ?

[renovation]

and the end is no were in site for the pain .hardship and suffering that is still going on there !
i heard that more reactors are in trouble .also from what im reading my best guess is the truth is far from really coming out on the radiation levels being found.
one story that leaked out makes me feel the truth is not being told .

Seventeen U.S. military personnel involved in helicopter relief missions were found to have been exposed to low levels of radiation upon returning to the USS Ronald Reagan, an aircraft carrier about 100 miles (160 kilometers) offshore.

U.S. officials said the exposure level was roughly equal to one month's normal exposure to natural background radiation in the environment, and after scrubbing with soap and water, the 17 were declared contamination-free.

But as a precaution, the U.S. said the carrier and other U.S. 7th Fleet ships involved in relief efforts had shifted to another area.


why did we move a convey of ships .due to one or 2 helicopter team's

then you put the ships 100 miles away and they still have it move ? anyone care to fill in the dots !
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20110314/D9LV1F6G0.html

[mcs328]

I think I read a story where the helo went through a radiation cloud hence the exposure.

I hope they get the reactor under control but considering they got hit by 9.0 earthquake and the thing was built in the 70's, I think they're doing pretty good this far after the event.

What miffs me are the people who say Japan deserves it for bombing Pearl Harbor. Didn't they already get punished enough for getting bombed twice and losing the war?

[DarkFury]

Well.. if it would go "boom" then maybe they want to be out of range of the shockwave. :eek:

[Napoleon54]

My understanding is that they've had to vent some contaminated steam, in a controlled manner, in order to avoid meltdown. The chopper could have come into contact with that plume.

[Napoleon54]

I think I read a story where the helo went through a radiation cloud hence the exposure.
:stupid:

I hope they get the reactor under control but considering they got hit by 9.0 earthquake and the thing was built in the 70's, I think they're doing pretty good this far after the event.

From what I've read and heard the reactors seem to have survived the quake itself just fine. They lost electricity but diesel backup generators kicked in. Then the tsunami came, like an hour later, and wiped out the generators, which killed the cooling system and hence the crisis. It seems like the real problem is they underestimated tsunamis.


What miffs me are the people who say Japan deserves it for bombing Pearl Harbor. Didn't they already get punished enough for getting bombed twice and losing the war?

WTF? I hadn't heard that one. Wow. :disa: :nuts:

[mcs328]

:stupid:


From what I've read and heard the reactors seem to have survived the quake itself just fine. They lost electricity but diesel backup generators kicked in. Then the tsunami came, like an hour later, and wiped out the generators, which killed the cooling system and hence the crisis. It seems like the real problem is they underestimated tsunamis.



WTF? I hadn't heard that one. Wow. :disa: :nuts:

via Boing Boing
"Two websites launched this week, Karma Japan and Ignorant and Online, collect a wide assortment of terrible, insensitive, hateful things said by stupid people about Japan and her people after the earthquake. Mostly, this is thick-headed white people in America saying the disaster is "karma for Peal Harbor." Feeding the trolls? Perhaps, but it's still an interesting sociological snapshot. (via Sean Bonner)"

[Daedalus]

That's bad. But it also doesn't help when the governor of Tokyo is saying similarly stupid things.

The outspoken governor of Tokyo, Shintaro Ishihara, told reporters Monday that the disaster was "punishment from heaven" because Japanese have become greedy.

I guess them greedy buggers in Haiti and Indonesia got what was coming to them too.

[nickel]

via Boing Boing
"Two websites launched this week, Karma Japan and Ignorant and Online, collect a wide assortment of terrible, insensitive, hateful things said by stupid people about Japan and her people after the earthquake. Mostly, this is thick-headed white people in America saying the disaster is "karma for Peal Harbor." Feeding the trolls? Perhaps, but it's still an interesting sociological snapshot. (via Sean Bonner)"
I have bolded two key words.

One thing I have noticed from the video the media is showing us, the Japanese people are not complainers! They are doers. They are workers, and I would bet they will clean up, respectfully bury their dead, and rebuild in a very timely fashion without much help from the rest of the world.

You don't hear of any looting or of any taking advantage of their fellow man during this disaster either.

[mcs328]

I wonder if there will be a mass migration to other parts of Japan that are already heavily populated or to other countries.

[attgig]

I have bolded two key words.

One thing I have noticed from the video the media is showing us, the Japanese people are not complainers! They are doers. They are workers, and I would bet they will clean up, respectfully bury their dead, and rebuild in a very timely fashion without much help from the rest of the world.

You don't hear of any looting or of any taking advantage of their fellow man during this disaster either.

don't mean they don't need any help....
news report says they've only garnered 1/5-1/4th of money for aid vs what haiti received in their first 4 days. i don't hear nobody singing we are the world....

[DarkFury]

don't mean they don't need any help....
news report says they've only garnered 1/5-1/4th of money for aid vs what haiti received in their first 4 days. i don't hear nobody singing we are the world....
Guess that is the difference between the 1st and 3rd worlds I suppose...

People must figure that Japan must have enough "wealth" to somewhat fix themselves.

But yeah... people in need are "people in need". Bottom line...

[mcs328]

I wonder what percentage of aid comes from the US. And if we had a disaster, what portion of aid comes from the US and other countries. Did we get a lot of aid from 9/11 internationally?

[Showtime]

Ignorant ****ers!

Bringing up Pearl Harbor just shows how racist and how willing people are to kick others when they are down. Same people said Haiti got it cuz they were heathens and Katrina happened because there are gay people in the south.

It seems like with all other recent disasters, there are no right answer with how to deal with it. There aren't 100% correct responses to whats happening because it was mostly theoretical. Tsunamis, Bp, Katrina, Haiti, and other disasters have passed recently, but none were well addressed initially.

All I know is that there are a lot of people hurting and they seem to be handling it better than we would here in the USA. The Japanese people are taking this disaster in stride. Good people are trying to help. Pathetic people are posting negative comments on the inet. But the people of Japan are just trying to get stabilized. Hell, even the market is dropping to add insult. Japan will eventually rebuild. Hopefully with better safeguards because there will be more earthquakes. Truly sad how after most of the victims of the 1st nuclear fallout have passed, now there's going to be another generation of the same.

We've seen what happens when a catastrophe hits our shores and it's ugly. 7+ hits Los Angeles and I have to go pick up a gun jic. It will happen and when it does, I hope our people can respond as well as their people have.

[Prngr44]

Guess that is the difference between the 1st and 3rd worlds I suppose...

People must figure that Japan must have enough "wealth" to somewhat fix themselves.

But yeah... people in need are "people in need". Bottom line...

I kind of thought the same thing.


Did we get a lot of aid from 9/11 internationally?

I thought we had offers of aid but turned most, if not all of it, down. Same with Katrina.

[attgig]

news article about how muchw as donated so far.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/14/pf/japan_earthquake_donations/

[cheapie]

can you imagine what the streets would be like if it happened here? prolly be looting, violence, etc. oh wait...
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