Is the XFL rigged???

[TheLoneGunman]

This is a post I made on another thread, so rather than cluttering it with two different issues, let me break it out here:

ALL Football games are "choreographed"

It is referred to as "calling plays". Unless you have a maverick quarterback who is ignoring the coaches or a bunch of morons who can run a route, the players will do exactly what someone in the booth or on the sidelines tells them. The difference that I am suggesting is that perhaps rather than having two coaches that are truly in competition and trying to guess the other's strategy, maybe some plays are set up for both sides by one person.

Imagine that the offense is told to run a draw play and the defense is told to prepare for the bomb. The offense now will get some yards and run over the defense who is unprepared. This could liven up the game for an offense that was previously weak. Also, maybe one player could be encouraged to hold his opponent. Since this is a relatively "safe" penalty there is little risk of injury. The refs (who are the key players in a WWF match) could then be told to call the penalty if it would negate a big play by the team that is crushing the other one and perhaps ignore it if the game is running too slow or it helps the losing team.

Remember, if the game is a blowout, tv viewers will switch to something else. Therefore, the closer they keep it for as long as possible, the better.

Also, with the game clock, I have NEVER seen them "rewind" it or put any time back on. Even in high school football, they do that. Slight manipulations of the clock (running it when it should be stopped or stopping it when it should be running) can easily reduce or extend the game time without anyone realizing.

Agree? Disagree?

[M_A_C]

I'm way to lazy to read all of that, but no. It's not.

[i6s1]

I doubt it. It's too much of a risk. If it got out that the XFL was rigged, the league would loose all it's crediblity.

Uhhhhh, forget I said that.

[helius]

Call me a cynic, but there will always be a part of me that'll believe it's rigged no matter what "proof" people come up with. After all, they're the same people who're behind the WWF... who kept insisting that "wrasslin's real!". :heh:

[topane]

If it was rigged, maybe it wouldn't suck so bad.

[topane]

Originally posted by helius
insisting that "wrasslin's real!". :heh: :confused:Um, what do you mean by that?!!?? You can't mean it's not real! You just can't!! :eek:

[jase71]

Does it really matter if the XFL is rigged?

Of the two people who still watch it, I don't think either of them care...

[helius]

Originally posted by topane

Originally posted by helius
insisting that "wrasslin's real!". :heh: :confused:Um, what do you mean by that?!!?? You can't mean it's not real! You just can't!! :eek:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[M_A_C]

Originally posted by helius
After all, they're the same people who're behind the WWF... who kept insisting that "wrasslin's real!". :heh:

Actually they readily state that it isn't real. That's why they call it sports entertainment.

[TheLoneGunman]

Well part of wrestling is real. For example, chairs and tables really do get broken with people's bodies... no way to fake that. Sure it is done in a way to REDUCE injury, but still it hurts.

From wrestling shows I have seen, some is choreographed long before the match and some is spontaneous. Some is VERY spontaneous when one of the guys screws up a move and surprises the other guy.

I suppose the same thing in the XFL. Even if they arrange to get the QB good protection and the WR a safe route, there is no guarantee that the pass will actually be thrown correctly or that it will actually be caught. I think this aspect is why people say it is as bad as High School football.

Another reason for faking is big plays. In the NFL recently, a lot of games have been very low scoring which is not exciting. If there was more action then perhaps you would watch more.

[TheLoneGunman]

Listen to these scenarios and tell me it isn't rigged:

The #1 team in the league is playing the worst team. It is in primetime on NBC who is considering dropping the league. The underdog is blowing out the top team and then suddenly the top team comes back and with the final play scores the winning touchdown! (as if!!)

On the first Sunday game, if Los Angeles wins (they are the #1 team in their division), then they clinch and next weeks game (on primetime on NBC) becomes meaningless. Instead they get "upset" in a game that is almost comedically bad and yet they only barely lose.

On the second Sunday game, San Francisco (which has sold more seats than any other team--and therefore seeks to make the most money if they hosted a playoff game) plays Las Vegas in a game where the loser is eliminated. Again, if San Francisco loses, then next week's game on NBC becomes meaningless. Amazingly on the next to last play, Rod Smart ("He Hate Me") of Las Vegas fumbles the ball--IN THE END ZONE! There is no one around! This seals the win for San Francisco and allows the team to turn their best known player into the goat. (Remember if they blamed some unknown there would be sympathy.)

perhaps I should just make my nickname, "He Rigged Me"

Feel free to sell WWFE (the WWF stock) short as they will be so dead once this is exposed

[M_A_C]

Don't be an idiot, there's no way it's rigged. Have you actually watched a game?

[TheLoneGunman]

Not only have I watched a number of games, but I am also a season ticket holder and have seen them in person (including being on the field next to the players--I think they thought I was a tackling dummy and let me stay)

That only reinforces my claim. I am not saying that every player is throwing the game. I am saying that a few key players are "in on it" and the rest play it for real. HOWEVER, sometimes play combinations are such that things do or don't happen (ex. defenders told to defend for the run and instead the offense is told to throw the bomb, or defenders are set to run a route that will likely allow them to get an interception when run with this particular offensive route)

[spigidygak]

bah, its rigged to be on tv for like 4 hours. The few games I saw lasted waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. . .












aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. too long.

[M_A_C]

Originally posted by TheLoneGunman
I am saying that a few key players are "in on it" and the rest play it for real.

Thats just retarded.

[andytseng]

it can't be rigged, cuz these people don't have the skill...

saying it was rigged... What if the upstairs guys called a play.. say a long bomb for a touchdown.

How's that guy going to catch it for sure?

[TheLoneGunman]

Originally posted by andytseng
it can't be rigged, cuz these people don't have the skill...

saying it was rigged... What if the upstairs guys called a play.. say a long bomb for a touchdown.

How's that guy going to catch it for sure?

There are no guarantees. That is why it is so pathetic. The guy runs into the endzone, completely unguarded and he still drops the ball. It is just more likely that if the QB has time and the receiver is open, that the play will succeed. Just like, if the protection is set wrong, it is more likely that the QB will be sacked, but not guaranteed.

I am not saying that the scores are decided beforehand, but rather that more or less opportunities are created based on the flow of the game.

As far as the 4 hour game, after the first few weeks, they received complaints and from then on, games have always run on time.

Let me make a prediction ON THE RECORD -- in this afternoon's game between SF and LA, I predict SF will win by 1 score with at least one score (by either side) in the final 3 minutes of play. SF will win because then they will host a playoff game and they have sold more home seats than any other team (so a playoff in SF will be worth the most to the league).

[M_A_C]

Well, so much for your dumb theory. Blowouts all around.

Here, I feel sorry for you, maybe someone here will believe you:

http://www.artbell.com

[TheLoneGunman]

I will admit publicly when I am wrong.

The Saturday game must have pissed off both of the people watching it because it was a blowout in primetime.

Oh well.

They offered me free tickets for next season, but I still think they are too expensive even when free :)

[ArkiStan]

did you actually pay for these season tickets??

[TheLoneGunman]

Over $1200 this year.

(I did make my money back because of the first few games, but still not nearly the profits I hoped for)

[ArkiStan]

how do you make your money back?

[M_A_C]

I'd take the free tickets if I where you Lone. You never know, the XFL could blow up in a couple years.

[TheLoneGunman]

Originally posted by ucbstan
how do you make your money back?

Tickets for the first game sold for well over $300 each and the second sold for over $200. Together they made back my $1200 plus. The "loss" I took on the last three games was more lost profit and actual loss. It just sucks that I ended up selling $40 face tickets at $15 for the last game.