Why buy DVD's when you can rent and..

[Y2J]

In 4 hours, I just successfully ripped a DVD to divX.

Now I can join netflix, rent em, and rip em. It'd be like renting a computer game and you just copied the CD and no CD-key is necessary

[fakesurfers]

youre probably going to get flamed, but i'm in favor of it...

why bother renting when you can just download?

[Y2J]

true. but with downloading, you get usually only the new releases. When Im looking for something specific, renting the option. for new stuff, hell yeah, downloading works best

I dont think flaming is in order. people talk about supporting napster and its replacements. this is jus tthe next natural step in pirating

[jase71]

I dunno. I guess if it's good enough for me to want a copy to keep, then it's good enough for me to support the people who made it by buying it.

If it's not good enough to buy a copy, then I don't particularly want a copy, even for free.

Don't get me wrong... I've downloaded boatloads of stuff off of Napster. But if I find something I really like and want to keep, I tend to track down and buy the cd then.
It's a "support the artist" thing, even though I know they get next to jack from the cd I bought.

The RIAA and MPAA really piss me off, however.

[TheLoneGunman]

Why pay the high prices stores charge for merchandise when you can just shoplift?

I mean, what is the difference between stealing a DVD from Sam Goody's and ripping one from Netflix?

What is the difference between stealing a TommyHilfiger shirt from the store and ripping a CD?

In all these cases, the artist only gets a little bit anyway...

If you can steal a shirt, then why not steal a TV from Circuit City?

Is fear of getting caught the issue?

Why is one wrong and not the other?

At what price is it ok to steal?

What if you were the artist? (I am an actor on the side and it is not a HUGE deal, but it is still money out of my pocket)

What if you were the owner of a small record company?

What if you were the owner of a small record store?

What if you worked in a small record store and were let go because they didn't get enough business because people were copying stuff instead of buying?

[Apex]

Alas. Gone are the good old days when bigstar just opened and they had 3 DVD's for $1 including shipping. *sigh* Anyone else around during then?

[TheLoneGunman]

I remember when NexTag.com gave away free CDs and DVDs (they simply gave 100% coupons for retailers)

[m0j0]

Originally posted by TheLoneGunman
Why pay the high prices stores charge for merchandise when you can just shoplift?

I mean, what is the difference between stealing a DVD from Sam Goody's and ripping one from Netflix?

What is the difference between stealing a TommyHilfiger shirt from the store and ripping a CD?

In all these cases, the artist only gets a little bit anyway...

If you can steal a shirt, then why not steal a TV from Circuit City?

Is fear of getting caught the issue?

Why is one wrong and not the other?

At what price is it ok to steal?

What if you were the artist? (I am an actor on the side and it is not a HUGE deal, but it is still money out of my pocket)

What if you were the owner of a small record company?

What if you were the owner of a small record store?

What if you worked in a small record store and were let go because they didn't get enough business because people were copying stuff instead of buying?

ahh....but where to draw the line?

i am not sure of the answer here...but, if recording movies was the same as shoplifting, then does that mean that they sell things to help you shoplift? i mean, they sell things that help you record movies and music.

[TheLoneGunman]

Originally posted by m0j0
[ahh....but where to draw the line?

i am not sure of the answer here...but, if recording movies was the same as shoplifting, then does that mean that they sell things to help you shoplift? i mean, they sell things that help you record movies and music. [/B]

Of course they "sell things to help you shoplift":

Baggy pants, pants with lots of pockets, huge purses, knapsacks, ski masks, etc.

They even sell guns to help you get some cash on the way out.

[Y2J]

TLG:
you may look at it that way, but society looks at it differently. I am not saying society is right (it usually isnt)but the way shoplifters are viewed upon is with a highly negative look. When someone hands you a pre-release CD of the new fear factory album downloaded illegaly from the internet, 'thief' is not the first word that comes to mind. On the other hand, when someone gives you a pair of sunglasses and a watch that still have tags and told you he took them from a department store, the first word you may think quite possible might be thief

[M_A_C]

To answer the original question, and to look at the whole thing differently, the reason I don't do it is because then you have to watch the movie on your stupid computer. Now if a DVD burner was cheap and easy to use so I could watch the movie on my home theater system, then I'd easliy do that in a second.

[cruelpupet]

I BUY my DVD's, cause its a lot more convienient. Sure I could download the movie for free, but then you dont get the options, the extra footage.

Sure I downlaod MP3's, but when it comes to a whole albums, I find its easier to just buy it.

[K2]

Originally posted by cruelpupet
I BUY my DVD's, cause its a lot more convienient. Sure I could download the movie for free, but then you dont get the options, the extra footage.

Sure I downlaod MP3's, but when it comes to a whole albums, I find its easier to just buy it.

u must be rich! :D


hey cruelpupet, where do you live? can i come visit ya? :D

[cruelpupet]

I live in NYC...and Im only rich when Im on break from college and working.

[m0j0]

Originally posted by TheLoneGunman

Of course they "sell things to help you shoplift":

Baggy pants, pants with lots of pockets, huge purses, knapsacks, ski masks, etc.

They even sell guns to help you get some cash on the way out.

not true. they make things for the purpose of helping you copy and record things. the other things just help you incidentally.

[ArkiStan]

I really don't have the right to comment on whether it's right or not, cause I personally do a lot of wrong things. But I simply think it's better to buy DVDs when it comes to collecting. Not because I'm rich. Believe me, I'm not. Maybe it's just because I'm a purist when it come to collecting my movies. Some people may collect just to have many many movies at hand. But I only collect movies that I really like and think are good movies. And when it's a really good movie that I really like, I think it is WORTH buying. It just takes me longer to collect because I'm looking for a cheap deal before I can buy it.

[cruelpupet]

Originally posted by ucbstan
I really don't have the right to comment on whether it's right or not, cause I personally do a lot of wrong things. But I simply think it's better to buy DVDs when it comes to collecting. Not because I'm rich. Believe me, I'm not. Maybe it's just because I'm a purist when it come to collecting my movies. Some people may collect just to have many many movies at hand. But I only collect movies that I really like and think are good movies. And when it's a really good movie that I really like, I think it is WORTH buying. It just takes me longer to collect because I'm looking for a cheap deal before I can buy it.


thats exactly how i feel

[Leon]

Originally posted by Apex
Alas. Gone are the good old days when bigstar just opened and they had 3 DVD's for $1 including shipping. *sigh* Anyone else around during then?

That was 800.com, dude. Man, you're getting old!

[Y2J]

Well, that netflix promotion is still going on (search the deals forum). and yes, they do have 'mature' dvd's

[rum]

It's only stealing if you get caught.

[ArkiStan]

try http://www.dvdovernight.com

unlike netflix, you just pay for the movies you watch. So it's better for people who don't spend all their life watching movies. And YES they do have XXX movies!! :naughty:

[ken]

What's the difference between copying a DVD and shoplifting one from the store?

Well, if you shoplift one from the store, it costs the store money, not the manufacturer (studio).

If you shoplift one, that's petty theft. Good luck on ever getting punished (unless you do something like confess, or have a record, or are an ex-TV sitcom celebrity).

If you copy one, that's a violation of copyright law, some other federal laws, and theoretically can get you 10 years or $100k in fines (you've seen these). Again, good luck on getting punished. Unless you're reselling them or making money off it in any way.

Both these crimes go into the category of minor nuisances that are the cost of doing business in a free country. Of course, you can opt for the Chinese system of justice, where they torture and jail your entire family for petty theft. I think the SPA favors that system. Don't know if that's better than letting kids copy movies though.

[stupidzbu]

i dunno.. i'm down to jip as many people as i can... going by two ideas...

if they had the chance they would probably do it to me (which they have on MANY occasions)...
and.. if I don't.. then someone else will..

these don't justify ripping comapnies off.. but hey.. if they are STUPID enough to believe me... then is it really my fault for trying and succeding?

it's like trying to get 1 gig of viking ram for$20.. if they actually sent it, it would have been amazon's fault for being so STUPID about it... you ARE stealing if you get away with it... in a twisted way...

anyhow.. i have 105 gig server.. with TONS of movies, mpegs, music videos, the entire Pulse concert on mpeg, blah blah blah.....

BUT.. i also have tons of DVDs BOUGHT.. why? becuase my computer monitor sucks ass.. and i'd rather watch a movie with GREAT resolution on my TV... without mid-movie camara angle changes... or some idiot coughing next to the guy illegaly taping the movie...

and why sit there and let your machine rip a DVD for 8 hours, when with a simple phone call to COloumbia house, i can get 7 dvds for $64.95 total.. sell 5 of them on ebay for $84 + shipping, and actually MAKE a profit with BARELY any work?

seems too much of a hassle to rip dvds to me...

[Y2J]

Originally posted by stupidzbu

BUT.. i also have tons of DVDs BOUGHT.. why? becuase my computer monitor sucks ass.. and i'd rather watch a movie with GREAT resolution on my TV... without mid-movie camara angle changes... or some idiot coughing next to the guy illegaly taping the movie...


TV-Out

I have 24 feet cables (Line Out Audio -> RCA-in and S-Video out -> RCA in) and just watch it on the TV in the other room

[DeepTrout]

Why pay the high prices your daddy corporation charges for energy when you can just get ole Gray and the whole state of California to?


I mean, what is the difference between stealing from granny at gunpoint and ripping her on her heating bill?


What is the difference between stealing 32 billion in "transition costs" and ripping a CD?

I dunno

I'm just a fish for cryin out loud


Originally posted by TheLoneGunman
Why pay the high prices stores charge for merchandise when you can just shoplift?

I mean, what is the difference between stealing a DVD from Sam Goody's and ripping one from Netflix?

What is the difference between stealing a TommyHilfiger shirt from the store and ripping a CD?

In all these cases, the artist only gets a little bit anyway...

If you can steal a shirt, then why not steal a TV from Circuit City?

Is fear of getting caught the issue?

Why is one wrong and not the other?

At what price is it ok to steal?

What if you were the artist? (I am an actor on the side and it is not a HUGE deal, but it is still money out of my pocket)

What if you were the owner of a small record company?

What if you were the owner of a small record store?

What if you worked in a small record store and were let go because they didn't get enough business because people were copying stuff instead of buying?