Bush caught with alcohol by cops!!

[TheLoneGunman]

Jenna, the shrublette, who has been to a number of illegal alcohol soaked functions as an underage girl, has now been cited by the cops in Texas for possession.

In the past it has been documented that she used the Secret Service help her and her boyfriend slide on this stuff.

Where is Ken Starr?
Where is the congressional inquiry over abusive of power?
Where is the compassionate conservatism?
Where is her drug and alcohol ladled dad?

[speedracer120]

Give me a break, your daddy could be a minister, and you'll still experiment and party (as in my case ;)). Everyone has that phase.

Sheesh. The fact that we heard about this on the news is reassuring enough that it wasn't all covered up.

[topane]

I heard that one time, he went to the bathroom and didn't wash his hands....and another time he changed lanes without using his turn signal.

[fakesurfers]

The word around Austin is that she smokes a lot of weed, now if she were busted with that, that would be news....It may force Bush II to examine one of his many hypocrises...Much as I dislike the guy, she's a college freshman for Christ sakes! C]mon, TLG, youre really digging deep...

[Butch]

I couldn't really care less about the drinking itself . . . what I find funny is apparently she didn't fall far from the Bush tree (or bush) . . . because . . . I'm sorry, but how STUPID do you have to be to go to a BAR when you are the most recognizable underage girl in Texas?? If you're going to drink, do it in private.

[Edited by Butch on 04-28-2001 at 09:10 AM]

[jase71]

Yep.. I'd love a good Bush scandal as much as anyone who dislikes the guy.

But what his daughter does is really HER problem, not his.
Maybe he was to blame because he was a lousy dad, but I'd bet most politicians are lousy parents, due to the time requirements of the job. And children of celebrities have a tendency to rebel and get in to more trouble than children of normal people.

This doesn't qualify as a scandal, and it doesn't really do much harm to Dubya. Just means he's got kids with problems, like most of the rest of America.

[TheLoneGunman]

My complaint was not with her drinking but from all the resultant hypocracy in the Bush clan.

If "family values" and "compassionate conservatism" really worked then why aren't they working in the House of Bush?

When Bush revealed his drunk driving conviction, he said he hid it so he could teach his daughters about alcohol -- obviously a lie. These two incidents certainly were not the first two beers she has had.

Jenna is even more of a moron than Clinton. The cops were doing a sweep of the bar, they were checking IDs and giving citations. Jenna was caught on the SECOND set of sweeps in the same place (she had been there all the time). How stupid do you have to be to put down the beer and walk away?

The Secret Service are either liars or bozos. The claim is that they were OUTSIDE the bar and NOT WATCHING JENNA! Now either that is either a lie so they can get out of the conspiracy charge or else they are blatently shirking their responsibility to protect her. How can you protect someone in a crowded bar when you are so far away and can't see them? Also, once they saw the police enter, why didn't they warn Jenna? I mean, it was not like she was at a dance club and they suspected she was dancing. She was at a bar -- all you do is drink.

[m0j0]

Originally posted by TheLoneGunman


When Bush revealed his drunk driving conviction, he said he hid it so he could teach his daughters about alcohol -- obviously a lie. These two incidents certainly were not the first two beers she has had.


can anyone say "non sequitur?"

whether or not he did it to teach his daughter about the subject has little to do with whether or not she learned the lesson.

and as far as being caught in a 2nd sweep in the same bar...i would get caught, too. i mean, around here they don't typically do redundant checks. i would think it was pretty safe after the first check....safer that somewhere else that has not been checked (yet).

[Butch]

http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/05/30/jenna.bush/index.html

Bush daughter used borrowed ID in new alcohol incident, police say
May 30, 2001 Posted: 2:19 PM EDT (1819 GMT)



AUSTIN, Texas (CNN) -- Jenna Bush, one of President Bush's 19-year-old twin daughters, attempted to buy alcohol Tuesday night at a restaurant here with someone else's identification, a police spokeswoman said.

"She was attempting to purchase alcohol with a valid identification that was not hers," said Laura Albrecht, the police spokeswoman.

She said police responded to a call at Chuy's Mexican restaurant but she could not say how the situation was ultimately handled.

"She wasn't cited. She was not arrested," said Sally Muir, another public information officer. "It's still being investigated. It's not a done deal."

In Washington, the White House declined to comment, saying it was a family matter. Calls to the restaurant and Bush's attorney were not immediately returned.

A senior administration official told CNN that a "not happy" President Bush called his daughter from California Wednesday morning to discuss the incident

Jenna Bush recently pleaded no contest to alcohol possession by a minor and was ordered to take an alcohol awareness class and complete eight hours of community service.

That citation stemmed from an early morning incident on April 27, when plainclothes officers witnessed Bush, a freshman at the University at Texas at Austin, and an unnamed friend drinking alcohol in the nightclub Cheers Shot Bar, located on Austin's popular Sixth Street.

The two girls were given a citation for possession of alcohol for someone under the legal drinking age of 21.

Austin Community Court Judge Elisabeth Earle ordered Bush to pay $51.25 in court costs, attend a six-hour alcohol awareness class and complete eight hours of community service.

Bush has until July 18 to complete the order. If she complies, the offense would be dropped from her permanent record. If she fails to comply, the prosecutor could issue a warrant for her arrest and the misdemeanor offense would go on her record, said Earle.

[zenbooty]

This is pretty ridiculous, and its obvious that someone is out to make an example of Bush's daughters. The article now states that both the Bush twin's tried to buy, and one had a fake ID. The real preposterous thing is that the restaurant called 911 over this, instead of just refusing to serve. Now, maybe the restaurant felt intimidated, or was being intimidated, by SS agents, but other than that this whole thing reeks of a conspiracy to tar Bush where it hurts most.

Not that I would be against efforts to humiliate Bush, but this seems pretty transparent to me.

[TheLoneGunman]

Some facts:

1. Bush's other twin daughter actually goes to YALE which is about 3500 miles away and so she is not involved in this situation.

2. This is actually Jenna's THIRD time that she was in trouble with alcohol at school.

3. Places are REQUIRED by law, UNDER PENALTY OF PROSECUTION, to report attempts to use fake ids. If they don't and aren't prosecuted, it is likely because the cops are unaware. Imagine what people would say if they didn't report it.

4. What are the odds that this was the first time she had a fake id?

[IntegraTypeR]

if i was the presidents daughter i'd think twice before i did something illegal. drinking isn't a big deal but if you drink and get caught you should think about the repercussions.

[chrissy]

Geez.... go watch the movie Traffic will ya?

I stopped reading a few posts up but come on. Every family has something wrong with it. Heck, the only thing that is different from the Bush family and mine is politics.

My dad is an alcoholic. He has been sober for 16-17 years now. That didn't stop me from drinking when I was a teen. Everyone experiments. So what if it is the Bush's daughter? My dad was preaching morals and soberity and family crap and I was out drinking... hmm... that didn't make the headlines...

Some people would rather dump shit onto other people's plate than eat from their own shit filled plate.

[zenbooty]

Originally posted by TheLoneGunman
Some facts:
1. Bush's other twin daughter actually goes to YALE which is about 3500 miles away and so she is not involved in this situation.

Not true. Yes, she goes to Yale. But the article (now on Salon, and also on sfgate.com) specifically says both were together at the restaurant. Being Bush's daughter and all, its not entirely out of the question that Barbara could have been back home for the Memorial holiday.


3. Places are REQUIRED by law, UNDER PENALTY OF PROSECUTION, to report attempts to use fake ids. If they don't and aren't prosecuted, it is likely because the cops are unaware. Imagine what people would say if they didn't report it.
If this is true, its ridiculous. I used to bounce at a bar in New Orleans, and believe me we got false id's all the time. We'd have to have our own private precinct if we were to call every one in. We'd just confiscate the things. I doubt anyone who got their false id taken from them while trying to get into a bar underaged would be willing to take their cause to the police. But anyway...

[zenbooty]

Originally posted by crabbie
Geez.... go watch the movie Traffic will ya?

I stopped reading a few posts up but come on. Every family has something wrong with it. Heck, the only thing that is different from the Bush family and mine is politics.

My dad is an alcoholic. He has been sober for 16-17 years now. That didn't stop me from drinking when I was a teen. Everyone experiments. So what if it is the Bush's daughter? My dad was preaching morals and soberity and family crap and I was out drinking... hmm... that didn't make the headlines...

But Bush wants to put your kids in jail for making the same mistakes he himself AND his own children have made. That is why he deserves harsher scrutiny. He could use his own example and his daughters' as reason to push for more lenient drug laws, or even eliminate criminal prosecution of drug offenses altogether and promote treatment. But he won't. Its his hypocrisy here that's so disturbing. Not the behavior of his family.

[Speedfreak]

:cheers: :heh:

[pennypinch]

Originally posted by zenbooty

Originally posted by crabbie
Geez.... go watch the movie Traffic will ya?

I stopped reading a few posts up but come on. Every family has something wrong with it. Heck, the only thing that is different from the Bush family and mine is politics.

My dad is an alcoholic. He has been sober for 16-17 years now. That didn't stop me from drinking when I was a teen. Everyone experiments. So what if it is the Bush's daughter? My dad was preaching morals and soberity and family crap and I was out drinking... hmm... that didn't make the headlines...

But Bush wants to put your kids in jail for making the same mistakes he himself AND his own children have made. That is why he deserves harsher scrutiny. He could use his own example and his daughters' as reason to push for more lenient drug laws, or even eliminate criminal prosecution of drug offenses altogether and promote treatment. But he won't. Its his hypocrisy here that's so disturbing. Not the behavior of his family. Well, to Bush's credit, he didn't exactly give her a Presidential pardon. I mean, her punishment is pretty much what a "normal" person might expect to receive in the same situation. She should know better, though. I mean, you're the president's bleeding daughter. Welcome to the limelight, chump.

I love the flip-flop here, though. For how many months did we have to hear about Clinton's private life. Now that the tables are turned, talking about Bush's trespasses are bete noirs. And before someone spouts off about how it's not Bush, it is. It's his daughter, and as the parent in the family, he should be held responsible, just as we're asking of families across the country. Remember the "imprison the parents of the Columbine kids" movement? Sure, the crimes are obviously not analogous; in fact, I know I'm guilty of breaking many of the same laws Ms. Bush has. I just didn't get caught, and furthermore, I'm not the President's child. Unfortunately, there are certain unavoidable responsibilities that go along with that. Like discretion. Or is it discreetness? :confused:

[TheLoneGunman]

Well, it's now official. Both Bush girls got cited.

Barbara for possessing alcohol and Jenna for using a fake id.

because it is her second offense and she was still waiting for the first case to be settled, Jenna may lose her license.
Ironically, this won't be an issue, as she clearly has a second one :heh:

I think it is George W's hypocritical attitude that makes this the most significant.

[TheLoneGunman]

Now you can listen to the 911 call (courtesy of TheSmokingGun):

http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?SID=1576049

Listen for cool comments like "she has a twin, but it doesn't look like her"

[fakesurfers]

http://graphics.theonion.com/pics_3723/jenna_bush.jpg
Jenna Bush's Federally Protected Wetlands Now Open For Public Drilling

courtesy The Onion

[ProMinx]

Originally posted by speedracer120
Give me a break, your daddy could be a minister, and you'll still experiment and party (as in my case ;)). Everyone has that phase.

Sheesh. The fact that we heard about this on the news is reassuring enough that it wasn't all covered up.

you're a PK too? how ****ed up did you turn out?

ProMinx

[ProMinx]

Originally posted by TheLoneGunman
Jenna, the shrublette, who has been to a number of illegal alcohol soaked functions as an underage girl, has now been cited by the cops in Texas for possession.

In the past it has been documented that she used the Secret Service help her and her boyfriend slide on this stuff.

Where is Ken Starr?
Where is the congressional inquiry over abusive of power?
Where is the compassionate conservatism?
Where is her drug and alcohol ladled dad?

GWB didn't do anything wrong in this case, so lay off. All kids party, and this chick is in college...of course she's going to drink. She just shouldn't be so flagrant about it...not now that she's the first semi-attractive first daughter in decades (her cousin is far more attractive though...and less of a lush).
ProMinx