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cruelpupet
05-03-2001, 07:29 PM
Well I'm currently sitting at my PC (obviously) and I'm watching 'Dateline' on NBC. They just had a very interesting story on, which had the opposit effect on my then they had planned.

So here's the story they were reporting on...

Apparently Chrysler decided to not include a brake shift lock on their minivans. Even though brake shift locks are not required by any laws, there are now class action lawsuits against them in 12 states. What started these lawsuits? Apparently there have been a few cases of roll away accidents. Now at first glance this looks to be the fault of Chryslers, but if you look into each case, they all have a common element.

That elemant is that the car was taken out of park by a child who was left unattended in a running vehical. Now unfortunatly Chrysler will end up setteling, but I would liek to see the company counter sue the families for child neglect. Seriously what moron leaves their kid in a running car??? Unfortunatly there is no natural selection to remove these people.

ArkiStan
05-03-2001, 07:50 PM
Well, if we only had a guarantee that the parents would be standing in FRONT of the Minivan when the kid shifted out of park, then that would sorta be like natural selection...and maybe that was what Chrysler was intending...bring stupid parents to extinction.

hapoo
05-03-2001, 07:55 PM
Every woman should have an implant put in that prevents pregnancy as a child. When they are old enough they should take a test before they can have it removed and have children.

cruelpupet
05-03-2001, 08:00 PM
good idea hapoo

ArkiStan
05-03-2001, 08:02 PM
HAHA sort of threw me off because it seemed irrelevant to this thread, but maybe not...and a pretty decent idea there. But then Taiwanese people would eventually develope Mod-chips to overrun the pregnancy protection, and selling it to young girls who wanna have babies (if there were such a thing).

LPMiller
05-03-2001, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by hapoo
Every woman should have an implant put in that prevents pregnancy as a child. When they are old enough they should take a test before they can have it removed and have children.

uh huh...because as we know, only women should be responsible parents. :rolleyes:

hapoo
05-03-2001, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by LPM

uh huh...because as we know, only women should be responsible parents. :rolleyes:


no, but one woman can have a child every 9 months, But a man does not have this restriction. If men were prevented from having children and one of them were to get it taken out, god knows how many children he could have, especially since the demand would be high. The fact is that the world is growing way too fast, we really need to find a way to stop this growth or else everyones quality of life will drastically decrease.

cruelpupet
05-03-2001, 08:41 PM
we really need to find a way to stop this growth or else everyones quality of life will drastically decrease.


I nominate myself as head of a new govenment agency that can legally abort people up untill the 150th trimester, if they are deemed stupid enough.

sbp
05-03-2001, 09:37 PM
Yup. People in third world countries need to stop having all these kids.

OC
05-03-2001, 10:08 PM
Ok - an automaker manufactures a vehicle that meets all of the standards that the government requires. Some examples of said vehicle are then involved in some accidents. Who is to be sued, the manufacturer or the governement that created the regulations?

This yet another example of people not taking responsibility for their own actions. The PARK function of an automatic transmission has never been intended as a replacement for the parking brake. Next time you're in an automatic-equipped car, pay close attention when the driver parks the car. 8 or 9 times out of 10 they won't set the parking brake. This is a really good way to get the tranny to fail....

Doomer
05-04-2001, 04:12 AM
Only idiots drive Chryslers. If they're stupid enough to buy them in the first place then they deserve what they get. Chrysler should have died a long time ago. :(

m0j0
05-04-2001, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by Doomer
Only idiots drive Chryslers. If they're stupid enough to buy them in the first place then they deserve what they get. Chrysler should have died a long time ago. :(


that is very astute!

actually, my first car was a 69 plymouth barracuda. best car i ever had. now i have a bmw. but the cuda had 300 ponies and 300ft pounds of torque. very nice. now i hope to get a pt cruiser.

Hiro
05-04-2001, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by hapoo
Every woman should have an implant put in that prevents pregnancy as a child. When they are old enough they should take a test before they can have it removed and have children.

This would prove to be the ultimate in birth control also. :D

styleee
05-04-2001, 01:22 PM
i think all men should be sterilized. but first they can get busy with a cup and freeze it for when they want to have children. i'm sure by the time this could happen, invetro would be perfected.

that way ALL pregnancies are planned.

ironchef
05-04-2001, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by styleee
i think all men should be sterilized. but first they can get busy with a cup and freeze it for when they want to have children. i'm sure by the time this could happen, invetro would be perfected.

that way ALL pregnancies are planned.
but then you'd have folks still pumping themselves full of fertitility drugs and having quintuplets cause they just refuse to adopt a kid.

or they're turned off by how much of a hassle adoption is (though i can't imagine fertility drugs being that easy either)

zenbooty
05-04-2001, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by sbp
Yup. People in third world countries need to stop having all these kids.

Its always someone else's fault with you, huh sbp?

welfareloser
05-04-2001, 02:45 PM
jeez... kids in running cars. kids are evil. PARENTS SHOULD KNOW THAT!!!!!!! you shouldn't sue chrysler for this fuck-up any more than you should sue the makers of baby walkers because you let your baby trot his ass down the basement stairs in it.

sbp
05-04-2001, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by zenbooty

Originally posted by sbp
Yup. People in third world countries need to stop having all these kids.

Its always someone else's fault with you, huh sbp? Should blame the US for everything like you do right? :rolleyes:

hapoo
05-04-2001, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by sbp

Originally posted by zenbooty

Originally posted by sbp
Yup. People in third world countries need to stop having all these kids.

Its always someone else's fault with you, huh sbp? Should blame the US for everything like you do right? :rolleyes:


Actually the US (and other modern countries) has a pretty slow growth rate at around 1% growth per year, where as 3rd world countries (i'm looking in your direction china, india and africa) have outragously high growth rates.

Rain
05-04-2001, 05:18 PM
My biggest problem is with these 3td world countries, they know.....they know that they have a population problem, yet they keep adding to the problem.

welfareloser
05-05-2001, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by Rain
My biggest problem is with these 3td world countries, they know.....they know that they have a population problem, yet they keep adding to the problem.

i forgive women with a third-grade education who are too poor to eat properly for not having a supply of condoms on hand. i do not forgive dubya for recently cutting all funding to all programs which helped to educate women in third world countries about family planning. it wasn't a whole lot of money, and it was doing a lot of good things.

Ice-9
05-05-2001, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by Rain
My biggest problem is with these 3td world countries, they know.....they know that they have a population problem, yet they keep adding to the problem.

It's not as simple as all that, though.

1) In general, 3rd world countries don't have the money to sponsor birth control/planned parenthood programs.

2) In many 3rd world countries, a large family is a sign of spiritual health or a source of pride.

3) Many 3rd world countries may not see their exploding populations as a problem. More people means more workers, more potential UN aid, etc.

Many 3rd world families have had reasons in the past for having large families (more people to help with farming or other work, ensuring some children survive because of a high mortality rate, etc.), and cultural trends have been established. These trends are difficult to break, and with modern medicine starting to become accessible to 3rd world areas, life-spans are increasing and overpopulation is becoming a problem. Solutions to this problem need to be examined, but they're certainly not as simple as "telling those damn 3rd world countries to stop having kids!" or something to that effect.

m0j0
05-05-2001, 01:01 PM
this has strayed just a little bit off topic, eh? maybe someone should do a new thread on overpopulation :)

cruelpupet
05-05-2001, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by m0j0
this has strayed just a little bit off topic, eh? maybe someone should do a new thread on overpopulation :)


DUH!

This si the 'off topic' forum

hapoo
05-05-2001, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by welfareloser

i forgive women with a third-grade education who are too poor to eat properly for not having a supply of condoms on hand. i do not forgive dubya for recently cutting all funding to all programs which helped to educate women in third world countries about family planning. it wasn't a whole lot of money, and it was doing a lot of good things.


Sorry but it doesn't take a guy with a PHD to figure out that when you dont have enough money/food/shelter for yourself, its not going to get better if you just add more people.
Ice-9's got the right idea. The main reason why people would have children was because of high mortality rates, but since that problem has been taken care of, instead of having less children people still pop them out. In third world countries a child can be seen as an extra worker, in modern countries children are a parasite, a consumer and not a producer which is why our growth rate is lower.

m0j0
05-05-2001, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by hapoo

Originally posted by welfareloser

i forgive women with a third-grade education who are too poor to eat properly for not having a supply of condoms on hand. i do not forgive dubya for recently cutting all funding to all programs which helped to educate women in third world countries about family planning. it wasn't a whole lot of money, and it was doing a lot of good things.


Sorry but it doesn't take a guy with a PHD to figure out that when you dont have enough money/food/shelter for yourself, its not going to get better if you just add more people.
Ice-9's got the right idea. The main reason why people would have children was because of high mortality rates, but since that problem has been taken care of, instead of having less children people still pop them out. In third world countries a child can be seen as an extra worker, in modern countries children are a parasite, a consumer and not a producer which is why our growth rate is lower.

i dont think she was talking about a guy to begin with. some guys with phd's couldnt figure out how to put on a condom, let alone much else. and i dont think that she was talking about just these ideas. we are born with a tendency to procreate. some ppl even like sex. i think it's easy to sit over here on our couches and our lazyboys, eating our canned hams and tuna, drinking our imported beers, to say how other ppl should live their lives. sure, they should do something, but since they have not, maybe they need help.

welfareloser
05-05-2001, 10:03 PM
no, no, no. when it is culturally ingrained that you have as many kids as possible and you have no education, you have no concept of birth control. what you do know is that a woman with less than 7 kids is shamefully worthless. that is your whole world. husbands can kill their wives for not putting out or for not producing children. if that was my world, i'd play like a rabbit and PROCREATE.

and thanks to missionaries, all these new christians think birth control is a sin. thanks, popester!

sbp
05-05-2001, 10:15 PM
"and thanks to missionaries, all these new christians think birth control is a sin. thanks, popester!" like there are so many Christians in countries like Pakistan. :rolleyes:

m0j0
05-05-2001, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by sbp
"and thanks to missionaries, all these new christians think birth control is a sin. thanks, popester!" like there are so many Christians in countries like Pakistan. :rolleyes:


that's cuz of the crappy knife conspiracy!

welfareloser
05-05-2001, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by sbp
"and thanks to missionaries, all these new christians think birth control is a sin. thanks, popester!" like there are so many Christians in countries like Pakistan. :rolleyes:


it was just an aside. i know it's not a significant contributor to the problem. but there are christians in india and many other countries, and they don't advocate birth control...

ziggyziggy
05-05-2001, 11:56 PM
what the fvck you guys talkin about??? its obviously chrysler's fault for not putting these brakeshifts into the car. stupid mthfckrs killed so many people by not installing these when each one only costs $9!!!! When a minivan costs $25,000 they can't even afford to put a $9 part into them? wtf. wanna know why chrysler is doing so bad??? yes, the parents have to take a little blame for leaving their kids there but all kids are mischievous and curious and like to fool around with buttons and knobs. these stupid-ass chrysler engineers are so stupid. to expect the parents to be perfect parents is just like expecting everybody to be perfect drivers. if everybody will be a good and lawful driver, then why do we need airbags??? accidents will never happen anyway. those motherfvkers deserve to die if they gonna pull stupid-ass shiet anyways, right?. WRONG, nobody is perfect and the engineers of these products gotta understand that. we pay so much so you guys can protect us when we act stupid not so you can turn around and say we deserve all this shiet and try to get away with everything when you obviously know its a safety hazard and just being cheap about it. this is really bad for chrysler and all american car companies in general.

cruelpupet
05-06-2001, 01:00 AM
Leaving a child in a running car unattended is more than not being a perfect parent...It is neglect!

welfareloser
05-06-2001, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by cruelpupet
Leaving a child in a running car unattended is more than not being a perfect parent...It is neglect!

yeah.

unattended child in running car + carjacker = really shitty day

cruelpupet
05-06-2001, 01:12 AM
Originally posted by welfareloser

Originally posted by cruelpupet
Leaving a child in a running car unattended is more than not being a perfect parent...It is neglect!

yeah.

unattended child in running car + carjacker = really shitty day

do you speak from experience welfare?

m0j0
05-06-2001, 01:20 AM
it's chrysler's fault that ppl leave kids in running cars unattended. it's also their fault that they leave their pets in the car on a hot day with the windows up.

cruelpupet
05-06-2001, 01:27 AM
even you mojo are missing the point....


Chrysler is responsible for puting flouride in our water supply to control our minds

welfareloser
05-06-2001, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by cruelpupet

Originally posted by welfareloser

Originally posted by cruelpupet
Leaving a child in a running car unattended is more than not being a perfect parent...It is neglect!

yeah.

unattended child in running car + carjacker = really shitty day

do you speak from experience welfare?

yeah, i'm a carjacker. all those kids get hard to dispose of after a while. damned parents.

hapoo
05-06-2001, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by cruelpupet
even you mojo are missing the point....


Chrysler is responsible for puting flouride in our water supply to control our minds


MUST KILL CRUELPUPET
MUST KILL CRUELPUPET
MUST KILL CRUELPUPET

welfareloser
05-06-2001, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by hapoo

Originally posted by cruelpupet
even you mojo are missing the point....


Chrysler is responsible for puting flouride in our water supply to control our minds


MUST KILL CRUELPUPET
MUST KILL CRUELPUPET
MUST KILL CRUELPUPET

sorry, hapoo, but my money's on the pupet...

m0j0
05-06-2001, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by cruelpupet
even you mojo are missing the point....


Chrysler is responsible for puting flouride in our water supply to control our minds

they did that? is it working? i have been wearing my aluminum helmet for years. wait....saran wrap is not aluminum! SARAN WRAP IS NOT ALUMINUM!!!!!!!!

cruelpupet
05-06-2001, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by m0j0

Originally posted by cruelpupet
even you mojo are missing the point....


Chrysler is responsible for puting flouride in our water supply to control our minds

they did that? is it working? i have been wearing my aluminum helmet for years. wait....saran wrap is not aluminum! SARAN WRAP IS NOT ALUMINUM!!!!!!!!

sorry mojo but the helmets dont work if you use a cell phone...Chyrsler is in cahoots with MLBA