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Crazyace
05-24-2001, 02:30 PM
If you read the front page (you should have anyhow!), then you know what I'm talking about. Just plain stupid. They always need somthing to blame our troubled youths problems on, when the problem is in my eyes the parents.

chrissy
05-24-2001, 03:02 PM
I think you are right. It is the parents. But when the parent's don't know what the game is about, I think the clerk at the store should offer some assistance. Not saying that it is up to the clerk to force the parent's decision.

I think society fell a long time ago. When families started depending on dual incomes. We are to the point where we can't afford to live on one income. Well, at least to the standards of the Jones'. It is a domino situation. Both parents are at work, kids have less parental contact and loose good rolemodels. Parent's loose contact with the kids and loose contact with what is going on with thier children. They don't know who they are hanging with, what they are reading or watching or playing.

Do you remember growing up? Where I grew up, we could leave the doors unlocked and leave for the weekend. We knew all the neighbors and we all watched out for eachother. When a neighbor needed help, we helped. We didn't gossip about them with the other neighbor.

Socity has changed. And until we can find what we lost, we, as a community will have to raise other people's children. That is sad to say but those of us with the knowledge of these different types of media need to help the parents, some who don't know the web from Icq from email.

If that means they card for games, what does that hurt you? I think most of us at this board can buy any game we need or want. If not, we have the "knowledge" of how to aquire it. If this program keeps my 6 yr old from buying some gore game (extreme I know) with out my knowledge or consent, I am all for it.

Crazyace
05-24-2001, 03:34 PM
it doesnt hurt I guess, its just kinda a pain in the butt for a kid to buy a video game. I mean, its a video game and nothing else. Give me a break. Go watch WWF on TV, any kid can turn the knob. Or not only WWF, ANYTHING on TV now contains trash. Its just crazy how they blame video games.

I hate to bring this up but do you relize what began the 2 income thing? Womens Rights. They deserve their rights, but when they bitched that they wanted to work and retained jobs, inflation went to the roof.

I for one encourage my wife to stay home while I work. Hey, it's less money in your pocket, but some things are just worth more, like the well being of your kids.

chrissy
05-24-2001, 03:41 PM
I totally agree. That is why I am at home. My mom stayed home with me and my 2 siblings until I was in HS. She then went to college and got a job. I think that is what is in store for me. Although, I do have the tech advantage and can take courses online while staying at home with my kids too. :)

And you are right, there is other media to blame. My daughter's tv (a hand me down) has parental control. The tv has a menu that allows the parents to set limits according to the tv-13 and such ratings as long as they are broadcast with the shows. We have a password on it. (Like it ever leaves Nick anyway :) ).

But with a parent at home who kids can talk to and ask about what they saw, or a parent at home to guide kids though moral teaching times, kids turn out better... hopefully there are more families like ours.

topane
05-24-2001, 05:40 PM
Yeah, I think there's too many families where there's not enough contact with the kids. I also think that the Women's Rights movement has something to do with this. The unfortunate thing is at that time women felt (or were made to feel) inferior because they did not bring home a paycheck (or much of one). I don't think anyone realized that it's more important to nurture the mind and personality of the world's future adults than earn a few extra bucks. People felt that raising kids wasn't a job. It's more than a job and there's no glory in it, but raising kids to be normal, proper adults is more important than most of us will ever achieve in our careers.
I watched wrestling growing up, played D&D, listened to Iron Maiden nonstop, and I turned out OK (or so I think!) My parents made sure that I was sane (come on--how many 12-year-olds do you know who can't wait to hear an album called "The Number of the Beast") and I didn't do any weird stuff.

I can't remember who said this (Dennis Miller?) or if it's exactly right, but...

"If your kid goes out and kills someone because of something Gene Simmons has to say, then you're not doing your job as a f--king parent"

[Edited by topane on 05-24-2001 at 05:50 PM]