protein diets

[welfareloser]

people on protein diets are st00pid. i try to convince people that it is highly unhealthy, and the fools argue with me... "but i've lost so much weight!" of COURSE you are losing weight... your body is only capable of digesting about 15% of the protein that it consumes... so that cuts the calories. but eating a triple cheeseburger without the bun for lunch every day, eggs and bacon for breakfast, and assorted oddities for dinner will make you skinny in the short run and dead in the slightly less-short run. "well, show me a study that says its bad for me." there are no long-term studies on humans - this diet just hasn't been popular for long - but take a look at what it does to other mammals...

1. kidney failure
2. liver failure
3. cholesterol through the roof
4. about two dozen different hormones from all different organs going absolutely apeshit haywire
5. huge increases in cancer, strokes, and heart failure

and i don't mean this stuff happens to a few test subjects, or that risks are slightly elevated - i mean dramatic, scary, ugly changes.

why does everyone think that just because an md wrote a book about it, that makes it ok?!?!?! md's are like st00pid mechanics - the memorize stuff and regurgitate it! they don't think! they know nothing about science! ask someone with a phd in nutrition or physiology and see what they have to say!!!!!!

sorry, was that inflammatory enough for ya? ignore my blanket statements. here are the disclaimers: some md's are smart, wonderful people. sometimes (very, VERY rarely)a protein diet is appropriate.

however, in most cases, there are much kinder, gentler ways of cutting calories and losing wieght. and if you want actual good health as well as skinniness, vegetables and a little exercise wouldn't hurt ya, neither...

[coleslaw]

The same thing goes for people who are on carb diets. You're missing out on essential proteins that your body needs! Carbos are full of energy, and your body can utilize it better than it can from fats; however, when you load up on carbos, you're not burning any fat because your body knows that it's easier to get energy from the carbs. I don't know where I am going with this actually... running round in circles...

[welfareloser]

Originally posted by coleslaw
The same thing goes for people who are on carb diets. You're missing out on essential proteins that your body needs! Carbos are full of energy, and your body can utilize it better than it can from fats; however, when you load up on carbos, you're not burning any fat because your body knows that it's easier to get energy from the carbs. I don't know where I am going with this actually... running round in circles...

aw, christ, are people still doing that one, too? it takes slightly longer to die of protein deficiencies than protein poisoning (and the symptoms are more fun and creative), but not that much longer...

[m0j0]

i'm on the beer diet. i'm not losing any weight, but i am on the diet.....

[Leon]

Wasn't there a miracle diet pill a few decades ago? It worked wonders... until they discovered it was just tapeworm eggs.

Anyway, probably an urban legend.

[cruelpupet]

heh...good idea. never thought of getting a tapeworm on purpose to lose weight.

[CluelessSi]

Originally posted by cruelpupet
heh...good idea. never thought of getting a tapeworm on purpose to lose weight.
haha i actually thought about that idea a few years back but I don't think it will work since getting the sucker out maybe a problem and it is a malicuious parasite afterall...

[topane]

The best things to cut out of your diet (or seriously reduce your intake of) are refined foods (white flour, sugar, etc.), starches, and alcohol. And there is nothing wrong with eating food in their natural state (eggs, butter) as opposed to some chemical-laden "lite" version.
Look at what we've been told is bad for us: fats. Fats make us fat, right? That's really not the case. The AMA or some other large conglomeration of doctors recommends a diet of no more than 30% fat. But here's the problem: people instead go out and buy a ton of "healthy" reduced-fat chips, snacks, dinners, etc. which have a bunch of chemicals and refined products in them.
Have you ever tried to lose weight or know someone who has? Counted calories? Made sure your calorie intake was less than 30% fat? Lots of carbs? Have trouble? More often than not it's a struggle to take it off, the weight will come back easily, and it's a frustrating way to live. Besides, who wants to sit and analyze calories and fat content of everything that goes in your mouth? Your body needs fat, just like it needs protein and carbohydrates.
I've struggled with my weight ever since college. My "ideal" weight is 166 lbs. and I've been as heavy as 205. Before my wedding, I got down to around 180 with the Atkins diet, but, although it worked, it left me feeling tired. Weight came back over the next 6 months. Started "eating right" -- low fat, lots of carbs, watch the protein -- and I managed to lose about 5 pounds in 6 months. The frustration with the traditional diet led me away from it, as it does for thousands of other people. I've changed my diet recently, and I've lost about 15 pounds over the past two months or so--I eat lots of eggs, meat, butter, etc. but I also have a lot of vegetables (at every meal!) and I haven't felt this good in a long time.

[cruelpupet]

Hey welfare...I got some protein for you!

[welfareloser]

Originally posted by topane
The best things to cut out of your diet (or seriously reduce your intake of) are refined foods (white flour, sugar, etc.), starches, and alcohol. And there is nothing wrong with eating food in their natural state (eggs, butter) as opposed to some chemical-laden "lite" version.
Look at what we've been told is bad for us: fats. Fats make us fat, right? That's really not the case. The AMA or some other large conglomeration of doctors recommends a diet of no more than 30% fat. But here's the problem: people instead go out and buy a ton of "healthy" reduced-fat chips, snacks, dinners, etc. which have a bunch of chemicals and refined products in them.
Have you ever tried to lose weight or know someone who has? Counted calories? Made sure your calorie intake was less than 30% fat? Lots of carbs? Have trouble? More often than not it's a struggle to take it off, the weight will come back easily, and it's a frustrating way to live. Besides, who wants to sit and analyze calories and fat content of everything that goes in your mouth? Your body needs fat, just like it needs protein and carbohydrates.
I've struggled with my weight ever since college. My "ideal" weight is 166 lbs. and I've been as heavy as 205. Before my wedding, I got down to around 180 with the Atkins diet, but, although it worked, it left me feeling tired. Weight came back over the next 6 months. Started "eating right" -- low fat, lots of carbs, watch the protein -- and I managed to lose about 5 pounds in 6 months. The frustration with the traditional diet led me away from it, as it does for thousands of other people. I've changed my diet recently, and I've lost about 15 pounds over the past two months or so--I eat lots of eggs, meat, butter, etc. but I also have a lot of vegetables (at every meal!) and I haven't felt this good in a long time.

right. my point exactly. a good diet for most people is about 30% fat, 60% carbohydrates, and 10-15% protein. "low fat" works for some, not for most. the protein diet cuts out vegetables and fruits, cuts out fiber in a big way (hello, colon cancer) and pushes carbos to like 20% and protein up to as high as 50%. it is bad, bad, bad. cholesterol kills you. you only need a little bit. i have lost weight counting calories and exercising. i have seen other ppl do it. i have seen ppl fail at it. i know it is hard to lose weight. i just don't like it that so many ppl have deluded themselves into thinking that this is good for them.

cut out refined foods, sugars, bleached flour products, up the veggies and the exercise, is always a good start...

[Edited by welfareloser on 05-25-2001 at 09:55 AM]

[raimin]

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[chrissy]

The best diet I ever did was eating on a smaller plate. I made the portions smaller and ate 4 times a day instead of just 2. It was the best.. dropped 2 sizes.

[ironchef]

Nawww, by far the best diet is the first few months you go undiagnosed as diabetic. That was interesting ;) You can piss away the pounds and get fun side effects like blurred vision and thrush!

Seriously though, after I was diagnosed my family and I changed our diet to accomodate me (I was a wee 16 year old). The traditional ADA diet is 60% carb, less than 30% fat and remaining bits protien. I lost a lot of weight on this, but it's tough to say if it was the chemisty of the diet, or the strict portions and monitoring. My guess is that the latter is what leads to a healthy diet. Anything that offers binging as one of its perks only sets up its followers for periodic trips on and off the wagon.

[zenbooty]

There are also some very smart mechanics out there.

[coleslaw]

Originally posted by m0j0
i'm on the beer diet. i'm not losing any weight, but i am on the diet.....

I heard about this guy who was on a beer diet. Instead of eating dinner, he'd have a beer or two when he got home from work. He lost about 20 pounds! I'm not saying that this diet was at all healthy, but it sure did work in the short term!

[welfareloser]

Originally posted by zenbooty
There are also some very smart mechanics out there.

wasn't dissin mechanics. one of the smartest guys i know is a mechanic. wish i was smart enough to be one... save myself some money...

[m0j0]

in your own defense...how are his teeth? he may wish he was smart enough to know what you know....save himself some money! :P