Mcveigh is dead...

[stupidzbu]

8:14 am eastern.....

i'm just curious.. maybe you guys can help me out here.. if this had occured in a third world country.. would the US react like the EU is reacting to this?!

would our government support the execution like this if it happened somewhere with strategic benefits for us... and the person being executed was important for that strategic benefit?!

*coughs* panama....nicaragua.....chile...iraq....

thats what I thought......

fucking bullshit.. thats all it is.. a bunch of fucking bullshit...

if he was *MURDERED* today.. then they would face a shitload of problems.. maybe even riots....

goes to show... once the USSR collapsed... the US gained the hegemonic power they sought since the Spanish American war....

in the end.. Mcveigh got his message through... our gov't does WHAT it wants to WHO it wants to... with NO remorse... because of globalization... because of economic prowess.... because THEY CAN... and nobody can stop them... all they can do is frown...

are we the THIRD antichrist that was predicted?! napolean was first... himler (i mean hitler) was second... ar ewe the third that lasts for 26 years... awaiting salvation!?

the third world countries think so....
the people we encourage to die think so.....
europe probably thinks so...
china and japan definatly think so.......

what do you guys think?!

[stupidzbu]

i find it humurous what people actually think... take this snippet from a MSNBC article on the execution...

“This man clearly deserved what he got. He died peacefully, which I cannot say my three members of my family did,” said Treanor, who lost her daughter and parents in-law in the blast."

how does one NOT die peacfully in such a huge blast?! i mean.. one second you are breathing... the next you DIE without even knowing it (that is.. if they didn't die in the hospital... or if they weren't alive after the blast.. i'm assuming they died instantly)


how peaceful is death.. when you are counting down the days to your death.. then the hours... then the minutes... until you finally hit the table... with that needle in your leg... counting down from 10.. cause 10 seconds is ALL you have left to LIVE......

how peaceful is that I ask!!

[oblongmelon]

I guess struggling for breath and tolerating unbearable pain in your crushed limbs and chest is somehow much more calming than waiting for a little ol needle. They should have put him in a building,bombed the hell out of it and let him suffer like those kids did. I'm glad he's dead. The bastard. They should have crucified him.

[SpeedRacer]

don't quite understand the point of this thread ... are you trying to say that mcveigh shouldn't have been killed? that the US is only concerned about it's own priorities??

[pennypinch]

Originally posted by stupidzbu


how peaceful is death.. when you are counting down the days to your death.. then the hours... then the minutes... until you finally hit the table... with that needle in your leg... counting down from 10.. cause 10 seconds is ALL you have left to LIVE......

how peaceful is that I ask!!
Precisely why I think it's the best form of punishment we have (and of course reserved for our most heinous criminals).

Perhaps if he was worried about the aforementioned, he would have thought twice about doing what he did. The rustle up a hackneyed one, you do the crime, you do the time. Good riddance.

[IntegraTypeR]

i am so glad he is dead. he murdered many people w/o an ounce of remorse.

[bella]

"Richard Burr, one of his lawyers, said McVeigh died by
lethal injection with no regrets about what he had set out
to do -- attack a building crammed with workers for a
federal government he deemed oppressive. Another
McVeigh attorney, Robert Nigh Jr., said, ``To the
victims, I say I am sorry I could not get Tim to say
words of reconciliation.''


I do not feel AT ALL "sad" for Mister Timmy!

[ironchef]

The most sickening part of it all has been the bloody press this thing has gotten.

Good press -- reporting on what's happened, when and why.

Bad press -- reporting of what he fucking wanted for his last meal, selling t-shirts, reporting from the scene of the execution, predicting what his final statement might be and waiting with baited breath for it, making jokes during a live radio broadcast, not granting this the serious consideration it deserved.

I'll say it too, good riddance. But we all have to realize the consequences of accepting that and allowing that sort of punishment to occur. I'm not proud that guy is dead.

[m0j0]

gotta die of something (i mean mcveigh...not the ppl that he killed)

[m0j0]

it seems as tho the execution is not really the biggest thing on the minds of those in other countries. at least from the words of someone from bulgaria that i am currently speaking with. she says that it is the high crime and violence. she said that she would be worried about the school shootings and serial killers if she had to move here. she doesn't even seem to want to visit. that's odd....

[pennypinch]

Originally posted by stupidzbu
how does one NOT die peacfully in such a huge blast?! i mean.. one second you are breathing... the next you DIE without even knowing it (that is.. if they didn't die in the hospital... or if they weren't alive after the blast.. i'm assuming they died instantly)
And you know what assuming does...

you can't spell assume without ass.

[zenbooty]

The death sentence is hypocracy.

By condemning others to death we make murderers of ourselves. How can we expect the individuals of our society to treat life as sacred when we as a society feel free to trample on the life of anyone who runs afoul of us?

A society that kills will breed citizens who kill. Is that so hard to grasp?

Its not about what the criminal deserves. Its about what we deserve. We deserve the best society that our work can produce, and I believe that means taking a higher road than an eye for an eye.

[renots]

Originally posted by zenbooty
The death sentence is hypocracy.

By condemning others to death we make murderers of ourselves. How can we expect the individuals of our society to treat life as sacred when we as a society feel free to trample on the life of anyone who runs afoul of us?

A society that kills will breed citizens who kill. Is that so hard to grasp?

Its not about what the criminal deserves. Its about what we deserve. We deserve the best society that our work can produce, and I believe that means taking a higher road than an eye for an eye.

Good point, but we live in a land of many hypocracies

And if we want to keep the theme that anything is possible in America, you will have to have some kind of deterrant against negative possibilities

That said most crime is a creation of stress, longterm or shorterm, so there are many more cost~effective solutions than the prison smorgasbord we enjoy today

[Y2J]

A tv reported called jim rome this morning and talked aboot it. He said there were two camps there, an anti-death camp, with 168 minutes of silence fgor the 168 people killed in the bombing. and a pro-death kamp, which was more like a tailgate party. and he died with his eyes wide open, looking straight into the camera. Good riddance I say, I just dont like how they made mnoney off it. people were selling t-shirts probably, and the people had to pay to get in there to protest/support it too I believe`

[theorangeone]

hes a horrible horrible man, and i for one and glad hes dead.

one of the articles i read had a quote where he was talking about the final score- "168 to 1" thats just sick and wrong. everything about him makes me want to vomit.

[eSDee]

McVeighs death only symbolized an end to a horrible event, allowing many to start anew. There were no winners in this case. I can't really say that I am glad that he is dead, I am just glad that many of those people who were devistated by this madman's actions can have a little peace of mind, so that they can try and begin to live with all that has happened.
I tried to avoid the media coverage of this case as much as possible. As we all know now, they only use it to boost ratings with little concern for anything else.