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Babs
06-13-2001, 09:02 PM
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lostempires/china/meetsusp.html

At the time it opened for traffic in 1940, the Tacoma Narrows Bridge was the third longest suspension bridge in the world. It was promptly nicknamed "Galloping Gertie," due to its behavior in wind. Not only did the deck sway sideways, but vertical undulations also appeared in quite moderate winds. Drivers of cars reported that vehicles ahead of them would completely disappear and reappear from view several times as they crossed the bridge. Attempts were made to stabilize the structure with cables and hydraulic buffers, but they were unsuccessful. On November 7, 1940, only four months after it opened, the Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapsed in a wind of 42 mph -- even though the structure was designed to withstand winds of up to 120 mph.

The failure came as a severe shock to the engineering community. Why did a great span, more than half a mile in length and weighing tens of thousands of tons, spring to life in a relatively light wind? And how did slow, steady, and comparatively harmless motions suddenly become transformed into a catastrophic force? To answer these questions engineers began applying the science of aerodynamics to bridge designs. Technical experts still disagree on the exact cause of the bridge's destruction, but most agree the collapse had something to do with a complex phenomenon called resonance: the same force that can cause a soprano's voice to shatter a glass.



can you imagine that, a whole bridge brought down by a vibration

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OC
06-13-2001, 11:21 PM
"Bridge vibe" - those who are about to go down in flames.

Girl 1 - So did you talk to that guy?
Girl 2 - Yeah, but he had a bridge vibe.

coleslaw
06-14-2001, 02:20 PM
Yeah, the Tacoma Narrows bridge was a great lesson in how resonance can destroy things. The shear forces created by the wind blowing across the bridge caused the deck to slowly vibrate. As the vibration continued to increase, the bridge vibrated closer and closer to its resonant (or natural) frequency. When the resonant frequency was finally reached, all hell broke loose. There are other instances of resonance affecting engineers, such as some older models of cars which would shake violently when they reached a certain speed (typically around 60 mph). People would notice that their cars would begin to shake as they approached a certain speed and then once they passed that speed, the shaking would stop. Also, soldiers will never march in step when crossing a small bridge because the stomping of their feet could match the bridge's resonant frequency, causing it to collapse.

Babs
06-14-2001, 02:54 PM
thank you coleslaw, i never knew that fact about the soldiers crossing small bridges.

wow, can you imagine if this natural phenomena, resonance, could be used in the treatment of diseases caused my microbes, virii, bacteriums and other little things we can not see? i bet we could eliminate alot of diseases that are uncurable today

that would take us one step closer to Paradise

:amidala:

coleslaw
06-14-2001, 03:11 PM
Actually, resonance is being used in medical fields to break down kidney and gall stones. A transducer is placed on the skin and sound waves are emitted through the body. The stones then resonate and break apart.

Babs
06-14-2001, 05:01 PM
yes, i know of those two examples

it just seems this technology would be VERY useful for many other conditions that currently require very expensive or very toxic treatments

it is very sad to live in a time where much of the medical and pharmaceutical community see people in terms of dollars rather than as humans. you would think that since these people have families and will themselves grow old one day, they would put truth above the almighty dollar. i guess that is what karma is all about

GilbertsGrape
06-14-2001, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by coleslaw
Actually, resonance is being used in medical fields to break down kidney and gall stones. A transducer is placed on the skin and sound waves are emitted through the body. The stones then resonate and break apart.


???What keeps your bones from breaking ??? .... Looks like if it boke down kidney and gall stones it would break ribs too???

Babs
06-15-2001, 12:46 AM
it may seem that way but it isn't.

everything has a specific resonance, which is why the wine glass breaks but not nearby windows in the classic case of the opera singer hitting the right note to shatter the glass

the greeks understood this principle very well, designing temples and other buildings to 'sing' when the proper note was played

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