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Burzhui
07-18-2001, 06:57 AM
You know what busts my balls?
When i needed ajob, i had no interviews or anything lined up.... well now as soon as i get a job, i get an interview and with a good company tooo.... so i am going, just to spite everything and everyone that... (help me finish this sentence).

fakesurfers
07-18-2001, 02:11 PM
Corporate officers are the worst kind of bandwagoneers. They only want what other companies want.

By the way, stay the hell out of the semiconductor industry...

Burzhui
07-18-2001, 08:36 PM
no semiconductors, tried out for a company that deals with AMEX and NYCSE :)

Grimm
07-18-2001, 10:49 PM
It's because if you have a job, you are obviously employable. If you don't have a job, you are not.

renots
07-19-2001, 01:43 PM
I wonder why vps get all the dough when its the tech guy who does all the hard work

must have something to do with slick talking and sales; still dont seem very fair

;0)

pennypinch
07-19-2001, 02:16 PM
It's because tech guys seem to have their heads properly and permenantly shoved up their asses.

I kid because I love, but really: when a tech guy says that he can't fix my computer problem because his machine keeps crashing, I begin to think this whole tech support thing was a big joke played on us unsuspecting working folk by the computer guys.

Tech support is a thankless job that, done ideally, should be invisible. But the vast majority of tech guys EARN LESS because they don't do their jobs correctly. Which is not to say that VP's do do their jobs properly, but at least they have some tangible metric to which they can point to and say "This is how I've improved the company." Tech guys can only say "Well, nothing went wrong."

LPMiller
07-19-2001, 03:42 PM
Hmmm...Penny appears to have issues...

pennypinch
07-19-2001, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by LPM
Hmmm...Penny appears to have issues...

Plus they all seem to have contracted terminal cases of sassmouth.

:heh:

Burzhui
07-20-2001, 06:16 AM
Hey hey hey, i am currently employed as a tech, and i would have you know that if us techies went on strike, and we should, all the others in the company with their stupid little problems, "Oh my mouse doesn't work" -- it's unpluged Mam, or the stupid idiot who shoved a floppy disk underneath the cd-rom tray and then tried to hide it (i kept the cd-rom to remind me how stupid these people really are), would just die ----- long, half uncomprihencable sentence by Burzhui

pennypinch
07-20-2001, 09:36 AM
If the techies went on strike, we would hire a new crop from the long, long line of equally (un?)qualified guys who'd want jobs.

I think I'm blessed with particularly useless IT guys. It has embittered me.

Grimm
07-20-2001, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by pennypinch
If the techies went on strike, we would hire a new crop from the long, long line of equally (un?)qualified guys who'd want jobs.

I think I'm blessed with particularly useless IT guys. It has embittered me.

I'm sorry your tech department sucks. You should probably be blaming the VP who determines what they will be paid (preventing the attraction and retention of competent techs) and how much training they will receive. You are obviously a victim of the "pay them almost nothing and don't train them or they will find a better job" tactic of staffin tech support. Most of thiose guys would learn how to do their jobs well with adequate training.
And the highly paid VP get a raise for having a "cost effective" tech dept.

zenbooty
07-20-2001, 12:34 PM
Tech guys are just a blame buffer for lusers who've never had to deal with the manufacturer's ****ty software. A lot of crappy software breaks no matter what the tech's do. Place the blame where it belongs, on the ****ty developers who make software that's built-to-break!

I'm so glad I'm not in IT anymore. I'd have killed someone eventually, because every righteous user seems to take pennypinch's viewpoint.

pennypinch
07-20-2001, 12:42 PM
I'm not buying, 'booty. I worked at another company where the IT was downright flawless. Sure, we had Websense, but I'd rather have a computer that can only look at some websites than one that doesn't really do anything without giving me crap.

With slower laptops with only a quarter gig of ram, the old company was able to get rigs working flawlessly. My workstation currently has half a gig of ram and a 900 mhz PIII. It runs everything slower and gives me "out of memory" messages frequently. Moreover, the IT guys basically have no clue what's wrong or even what's right.

With almost identical software loads, one place has nearly-invisible IT, the other has a department I curse out almost daily. Yet it's a software issue?

I'm not going to defend morons who stuff floppies into CD-ROM's or people who dump coffee into their monitors then blame the manufacturer. I will, however, place blame when a bunch of toads aren't handling their business.

gear02
07-20-2001, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by fakesurfers
Corporate officers are the worst kind of bandwagoneers. They only want what other companies want.

By the way, stay the hell out of the semiconductor industry...

Uh...****...why stay out of the semiconductor industry? I was thinking of doing VLSI with, say, NVIDIA, AMD, Intel, Analog, SGI, or Sun.

jujubees
07-20-2001, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by evilcyclops
It's because if you have a job, you are obviously employable. If you don't have a job, you are not.

Ya know ... this is like when you're only desirable by the opposite sex when you're "attached." :hehehmm:

Ice-9
07-20-2001, 02:13 PM
Our IT dept. here at BEA is pretty good, but I had some wonderful experiences with "IT" (if you can even call them that) at the federal government when I interned at the USDA. Here's a sample conversation:

Me: I'm having a problem accessing (insert network resource here).
IT: Umm, did you restart?
Me: Yes.
IT: Uhh, is your network cable plugged in?
Me: Yes.
IT: What OS are you on?
Me: NT4, the same as the rest of the department. Look, can you just set the permissions so I can get in?
IT: Ummmm. Can you access the Internet?
Me: Yes. (Insert barely suppressed expletive here)
IT: I'm gonna have to send someone to look at your computer.
Me: All you have to do is reset the permissions on (network resource) so that the user named ipfeif1 has read and write access. Can you do that, please?
IT: [silence]
Me: Hello?
IT: Uhh, I'm gonna have to call my supervisor.

And so it went. One of my coworkers and I would usually just compile a list of IT requests from the people we worked with, and go in during the IT guys' lunch hour to fix things. So if you're ever wondering why the federal government runs as efficiently as it does...