View Full Version : Why does Gary Condit make me want to smack him upside the head?
TheLoneGunman
08-23-2001, 04:20 PM
What is this guy's problem???
He says he was "close" to Chandra but won't answer whether they were knocking boots.
Has he learned nothing from the Clinton mess?
The Mayor of San Jose (Ron Gonzales) went totally public just before they were printing allegations that he was boinking a staffer and that made the story disappear. It is a non-issue now.
ex-Prime Minister Netanyahu went equally public about his mistress and he didn't suffer for it.
Clinton insisted on being a jerk and playing games and it never helped him (except maybe to avoid a conviction for perjury)
Condit could have started to clear this mess up (albeit at the loss of his reputation) and instead he will lose both the election and his reputation. More importantly, this means that unless he loses in the primary, a Republican will get his seat. That sucks even more.
Grimm
08-23-2001, 04:35 PM
It's no ones business except his, hers, and the police.
I, who didn't like Clinton to begin with, would have been perfecly satisfied with the response "None of your f***ing business!" to the Monica questions.
I thought he was a Republican? Not that it makes any difference.
TheLoneGunman
08-23-2001, 05:06 PM
Yes, he is a democrat. The California state senate is trying to redistrict so that the democrats can keep that district.
You are missing the point!
I could care less if he was having sex with a dog. The problem is that he LIED! He denied it THREE TIMES TO THE COPS.
If he was poor and black he would be doing 5 years hard time for lying to the cops.
If it was nobody's business, then why couldn't he say that? Why did he have to lie? Why did Clinton have to wag his finger and say "I did not have sex with that woman!"? If Clitnon said "my sex life is personal" then he couldn't have been impeached or charged with perjury.
INeedAVacation
08-23-2001, 06:01 PM
Condit is an elected official and what he does IS the business of the public.
Also, since he IS involved in a (likely) murder, (at the very least he was having an affair with the woman suspected of being dead) through whichever venues are available, whether they be through the media or not, should be persued to further the possibility of justice being served.
The Lone Gunman and I have argued many time sin the past but in this matter we absolutely agree.
g222leav
08-23-2001, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by TheLoneGunman
If he was poor and black he would be doing 5 years hard time for lying to the cops.
society is sad...we could relate this to that rich white people thing
TheLoneGunman
08-23-2001, 07:53 PM
Well now that the interview has aired, the pundits are smacking him hard.
It is pretty humiliating to see the people from the left right and center all lining up against him.
Basically, I don't know why he agreed to the interview if he was just going to lie and mislead.
ironchef
08-23-2001, 08:46 PM
I'll agree that he should've been more forthcoming when questions started flying, I still don't think him having an affair with the girl has any relevance.
He honestly said tonight that he had a serious relationship with her for 5 months. I can infer from that what I want. He went on to say that he didn't know if she was in love with him. Again, I think it's only logical to assume they was bumpin' uglies.
All that needs to be said to the public is that yes, he had a serious relationship. Right there we know that there's good reason to believe he has some insight as to why the poor girl is gone. Probing further only satisfies Americans' voyeuristic desires.
His initial evasiveness and lying is deplorable. But I won't damn the guy for having the balls to protect his own privacy, insomuch as he he's not obstructing justice. As a public official he is put in the limelight and held to higher standards than I think a lot of his constituents might hold themselves to.
Condit should have done the right thing long ago and resign.
Grimm
08-23-2001, 10:13 PM
If every politician in DC who has boinked an intern resigned, there would be no one left to run the government.
TLG if you read your first post nowere in it do you refer to an interview in which he is caught lying. I'm sorry but I don't have the time right now to watch or listen to the news.
Don't come down on me for not knowing everything about some a$$ in Washington DC.
INeedAVacation - Just because we have better communications now than 200+ years ago doesn't mean we need to know anything about the sex lives of elected officials. Stay out of these people's bedrooms. You don't want them in yours. What he does as a member of our government is our business. What he does as a private citizen is not. Boinking comes under the private citizen part, unless he does it on the Whitehouse lawn.
El Scorcho
08-24-2001, 12:28 AM
i think clinton is cool... hes a pimp. Whyd people make sucha big deal over that??? Hillary isnt that great looking...wouldnt you cheat on her ass. Then again... neithers monica.... clintons the prez...why didnt he get some from somebody hotter?
ProMinx
08-24-2001, 01:56 AM
What is it with men in power and ugly stupid girls? This chick even looked a little bit like Monica. If you're going to blow a big job for sex, why not go out in an orgy with supermodels and playboy bunnies...and videotape the whole thing. Once the story hits the news stand, sell the video to the highest bidder using an alias, and the day before they publish the video, go on record as to admitting to the sexual tryst. That way your reputation is not hurt too much by the video (which immediately lost 95% of its value), you made a few million dollars, and you got to boink a half-dozen hotties!!!!!
I should be a politician. I already know the ropes on screwing the models and the media.
ProMinx
welfareloser
08-24-2001, 08:35 AM
i don't care who he boinks, that's between him, his wife and the boinkee, but since this is a murder investigation, "none of your business" isn't acceptable, and lying certainly isn't either. if he really did care about her (and he obviously cares more about himself) he would have told the police everything so they didn't go barking up the wrong trees looking for her mysterious boyfriend and waste precious time.
pennypinch
08-24-2001, 08:45 AM
I get the distinct sense that, despite how sexy a "she was preggers and so I off-ed her" result would be, that he was screwing some girl and she, in an unrelated matter, disappeared. We're all dying to hear that he was somehow implicated: I just don't think so.
That said, I have no idea why his handlers agreed to do an interview if that was what he was going to do. I mean, seriously, Gary, why bother? The "I'm not a perfect man" thing smacked of Reagan and his cue cards. He might as well have said "Connie, that question you just asked, my people haven't prepared a suitable answer for it just yet, so I'm going to just waffle a bit, and frustrate you some more, in hopes that maybe you'll ask me about a billion more times in the course of the next half hour."
I thought the Chunger could have covered a LITTE more ground that "Did you bonk her or not", which, let's face it, while juicy news, isn't really relevant to this case whatsoever.
Grimm
08-24-2001, 09:21 AM
How did sex suddenly = murder?
As in, "Well he had sex with her so he must have killed her"?
It's the police's business to know if he was boinking her, not the general public's. I think we've gone a little overboard with the "right to know" thing.
TheLoneGunman
08-24-2001, 09:46 AM
Let's analyze the possibilities:
1. She killed herself -- Normally you leave a note/clues, you generally WANT people to find your body, and even if you don't you still get found easily since you can't bury yourself after you are dead :-)
2. Street violence -- They would have found her in any alley/dump, etc.
3. She is hiding -- She had sex with Condit, how smart could she be? Even the fools in the FBI would have traced her by now
4. She is vacationing with Jimmy Hoffa - Likely. This is also convenient for the congressman who doesn't want to have loose ends lying around.
Besides, how can we believe Condit?
If the watch box was irrelevant, why did he go so far out of his way to hide it?
If he never banged the stewardess, why did he have his aide draft an affidavit for her saying she never did anything (what was to deny?)
He doth protest too much.
welfareloser
08-24-2001, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by evilcyclops
How did sex suddenly = murder?
As in, "Well he had sex with her so he must have killed her"?
It's the police's business to know if he was boinking her, not the general public's. I think we've gone a little overboard with the "right to know" thing.
a boyfriend/husband is much more likely to murder a woman than a stranger, so it always makes sense to investigate that possiblility. i, for one, would be very surprised if he did it, and i don't think that most people believe he had anything to do with her disappearance; the evidence that has been made public so far seems to indicate otherwise.
but she is missing, and he should have told the truth: the police know that a boyfriend is the most likely suspect, and even if it was a stranger abduction, the boyfriend will probly have more info on what she was doing/where she was going/ waht she was thinking etc. so they MUST find that boyfriend. if he had just said that he was the guy, they wouldn't have wasted precious man-hours looking for someone else.
pennypinch
08-24-2001, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by TheLoneGunman
Let's analyze the possibilities:
1. She killed herself -- Normally you leave a note/clues, you generally WANT people to find your body, and even if you don't you still get found easily since you can't bury yourself after you are dead :-)
2. Street violence -- They would have found her in any alley/dump, etc.
3. She is hiding -- She had sex with Condit, how smart could she be? Even the fools in the FBI would have traced her by now
4. She is vacationing with Jimmy Hoffa - Likely. This is also convenient for the congressman who doesn't want to have loose ends lying around.
Besides, how can we believe Condit?
If the watch box was irrelevant, why did he go so far out of his way to hide it?
If he never banged the stewardess, why did he have his aide draft an affidavit for her saying she never did anything (what was to deny?)
He doth protest too much.
Why does the watch box matter? If you had, like he alluded to, the Enquirer digging through your trash and you had a watch box engraved with some woman's name, would YOU want that out and about?
The stewardess thing was plainly bizarre. "Oh, chalk it up to lawyer-speak!" Like tagging it with the word "lawyer" would instantly discredit it.
Regardless, I just don't think he did anything, and our societal hunger for the sex scandal is swinging the spotlight away from where it really should be: not on some stupid philandering politician, but on the disappearance of this girl. I think we all know that the chances that he's materially implicated in this is pretty low.
FFTF153
08-24-2001, 12:28 PM
People think they can lie any time they want. Hey the president did it under oath. Why not me. He didn't get in any trouble. It doesn't really matter whether it's a murder investigation or not. Just lie. Everyone tells little white lies here and there. Certain things should be obvious not to lie about. I don't know if Condit had anything to do with her disappearing. But it would have been the right thing to help with the investigation from the begining. Did he think he could hide everything once the press got hold of the story. No way. He just figuered he would lie about everything he could. He obviously lied to his wife and family all the time cause he was having this affair. They should be the closest people to you in your life. He is a piece of sh**. I hope he gets what's coming to him.
TheLoneGunman
08-24-2001, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by pennypinch
Why does the watch box matter? If you had, like he alluded to, the Enquirer digging through your trash and you had a watch box engraved with some woman's name, would YOU want that out and about?
What a coincidence. It happened the night before HE KNEW (because his lawyer set it up) the police were coming to search his house.
Regardless, I just don't think he did anything, and our societal hunger for the sex scandal is swinging the spotlight away from where it really should be: not on some stupid philandering politician, but on the disappearance of this girl. I think we all know that the chances that he's materially implicated in this is pretty low.
What makes you think that? I think he has Means, Motive, and Opportunity. Sounds like a suspect to me. Cops just aren't saying that because they remember the Richard Jewell fiasco.
As far as the TV interview, CONDIT SET IT UP!! It was completely HIS CHOICE, WITH HIS RULES!! If he fumbled it, then he must be a total bozo.
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