PETA in action...

[stupidzbu]

a certain site curiously named the project of stile.com (the actual website isn't that.. figure it out.. i'm not going to post the link cause it has hard core porn and other sadistic things)

put up an MPEG of a kitten... getting clobbered in the head with a hammer or something..

then they slit it's throat (the cat was already skinned).. gut it... cut it up.. and make a stew out of it....

the guy has been flamed with 500 + emails a day for posting that...

and he just put this up on the page:
"We're going to do everything in our power to have the folks who put this on the Web prosecuted." -- PETA spokesperson on the cat video clip.

this guy has been shut down two times before (since i have been visiting his page)...

what do you guys think? is killing a cat for food different than slaughtering a cow? or slaughtering chickens?

i mean.. have anyone of you seen what happens at a slaughter house? or how veal is raised?

should there be THAT much of an outcry because this is a house animal (and cute?)

drop me a line at AIM stupidzbu3 if you want the link...
i'll leave it on with an instant message with the links....

[stupidzbu]

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,46315,00.html
you could follow that link to the web page...

talk about contraversy (sp?)! WOW!

also...

he has a web page that describes some very viable points.. i won't link it cause he has hard core porn banners!

here are some quotes:

"Quite frankly I'm surprised that it took this long for some organization to catch wind of "that guy who actually shows reality for what it is" and make a fuss over it. Quite frankly I'm surprised that it was over a video clip of a cat being cooked by a culture which thinks nothing of eating an abundant animal for survival. "

"Many people living in Asia e-mailed me confirming that eating cats and dogs is a widely practiced culinary event, and we even tracked down the source of this video. "

"PETA, maybe you should also prosecute PBS since they have broadcast the exact same thing many times on a special on foreign cultures and their eating habits.

Maybe you should also prosecute AMAZON.COM which SELLS the "Faces Of Death" videos which feature DOGS and CATS being killed and eaten, not to mention cows, sheep, chickens AND humans.

Talk about directly profiting from selling animal cruelty! Somehow I doubt that Amazon will ever hear from the Justice Department, but a skinny bald Jew who lives in his mom's basement will. Selling videos that feature animal torture sounds like "the depiction of animal cruelty for commercial purposes" if you ask me. I wasn't exactly selling the video clip for money. "

"Where the hell is the People For The Ethical Treatment Of Humans in all this? How come you never hear about them protesting snuff films like Faces Of Death sold on commercial websites? "

"What makes me sick about groups like PETA is that they'll raise hell over a video clip showing the cultural habits of an ethnic group distributed on the Internet, yet not sue the people that are putting 6 million animals to death in our country every year because they are unwanted or strays."

"You want to know what really scares me about this whole ordeal? Not one person even commented on the video of the kidnapped Russian soldier getting throat sliced open by a Chechen terrorist.

NOT ONE.

Humanity has it's priorities seriously f*cked up"

if you guys haven't seen that video.. it's aweful.. a soldier is on the ground.. and another one sticks his knife in the throat.. and you can actually hear the blood gurgling and the knife goes in...

then they be-head his friend....

it was on bearshare.. i think....


I for one would love Stile to win this.... he has VERY valid points...

FIGHT ON!

[Edited by stupidzbu on 08-29-2001 at 05:45 PM]

[TheLoneGunman]

Part of the Jewish custom of "Kapporos" (done just before Yom Kippur - the "day of atonement") involves taking a live chicken, performing a ritual, then having it ritually slaughtered then donating the meat to charity.
In places where this is not possible, it is done with money instead.

The slaughtering is supposed to not cause the chicken any pain.

I wonder if PETA feels the same way about that.

[Grimm]

While I agree that needless animal cruelity is wrong, I can't see the point in objecting to this. It weakens the whole argument when nutcases get involved.
The cat was eaten, so what? If he had tortured and killed the cat for no reason, I would have a problem with that. It is cruel and wasteful. But he chose to use an animal for food. That's all well and good. We are omnivores. That means we eat just about anything. It's how we are made and how we should behave. It would be unhealthy to exclude a necissary part of our diet, meat. When these nuts talk carnivores like sharks, tigers, and wolves out of eating meat, then I will stop too.

[stupidzbu]

nut cases do more harm than good...

For some reason.. they remind me a lot of Orwells 'Big Brother' .. trying to stop us from doing EVERYTHING and controlling our EVERY MOVE!

I mean... sure.. it's nice to save a tree.. help an endangered species.... or what not.. but these people ALWAYS take it to the extreme...

I read this story for an english class.. that I thought best depicted a situation like this... this guy meets a psycho woman who is an advocate against animal cruelty.. it is around thanksgiving time.... she convinces him through sex that he should join her flight to free all these turkeys that are going to be unjustly slaughtered for thanksgiving....

so.. they go to the farm... break in, and release ALL the turkeys... it was thick in fog, so everything was hard to see... they almost get caught, and she flees with a male-friend she had brought along.. leaving him to get trampled on by the turkeys while hiding (and getting a face full of feces).....

he ends up realizing that he was an idiot... and eventually makes his way home in the morning.....
on the freeway... the most awkward thing had happened.. apparently the turkeys flocked like lemmings to the freeway and were ALL slaughtered by the cars.. it was described like a blood bath in the story...

i found it humurous... in freeing them... they just killed em all anyhow...

also.. it's like the anti-bortion guy in 'If these walls could talk' that yells MURDERER when he SHOOTS AND KILLS Cher, the abortion doctor.....

oh well.. we still have to put up with them... no matter how much red tape they want to produce...

[poiselle]

I can't stand PETA. I don't mind trying to minimize cruelty to animals, but they are too extreme. If you go in deep enough to their website they say they are against animal ownership as well. I have lived with vegans for 3 years and they think it is wrong to have a dog, let alone to eat one.
TLG- They would protest that custom because in their minds culture/customs or anything else that does not agree with them is wrong.
With all of the money that PETA makes I am unaware of a single animal shelter that is supported by them. They would rather use the money for advertising. My girlfriend is in vet school and they like to come and protest the vet school a couple of times a year. It is just super. I like the ASPCA but PETA makes my skin crawl.

[TheLoneGunman]

In PETA's defense, they have some HILARIOUS commercials:

http://www.adcritic.com/content/peta-bad-cats.html

http://www.adcritic.com/content/peta-singing-cows.html

Please note that the Cat one might offend those with delicate sensibilities

[Sir_Froggy]

isn't PETA a type of food thingy?

[stupidzbu]

Originally posted by Sir_Froggy
isn't PETA a type of food thingy?

it is if you are trying to fight other people eating cats and dogs to survive because they don't have the luxury of cows....

[poiselle]

Originally posted by TheLoneGunman
In PETA's defense, they have some HILARIOUS commercials:

http://www.adcritic.com/content/peta-bad-cats.html

http://www.adcritic.com/content/peta-singing-cows.html

Please note that the Cat one might offend those with delicate sensibilities
They do have some funny commercials, but they just make them so outrageous that nobody will show them on TV. They are only seen on the internet. The cat one made the rounds of the vet school when it first came out.

[topane]

Originally posted by stupidzbu


it is if you are trying to fight other people eating cats and dogs to survive because they don't have the luxury of cows.... Hehehe...luxury of cows. Stile should win this one, it's not like he tortured an animal, it's simply a link to a movie showing food preparation. I'm sure folks in India would be just as appalled seeing a video of a cow being slaughtered and diced up for dinner.

[johnnymk]

My sister is in an organization which finds homes for cats and dogs. She has stories about the unethical treatment of animals that would fill a book.
We were discussing this subject about a week ago. She said there are probably a half a dozen stray cats per citizen in the U.S. Most of them evntually die of starvation or disease.People leave animals off
by the roadside, in the woods and some are humane enough to take them to the local SPCA. Cats can reproduce at an outstanding rate, and if they are not neutered, they reproduce exponentially.
Even though I have a cat and treat it like gold, eating cats would almost make sense, considering the fate of most of them.I don't know if I would eat one, but if I was starving, I would consider it.

By the way, if you ever want to talk about puppy mills,.... oh well, this is a different subject.

[eSDee]

Well I think that although the act of killing and cooking kittens for food isn't unethical, I think StileProject might be in trouble for this one. The law that the article mentions, that makes it illegal to show cruelty to animals for commercial gain definitely shows that SP is breaking the law. If the website was attempting to be educational, enlightening people to the cultures of others, then they wouldn't be able to touch SP. However since SP gains monetarily through banners, merchandise, etc. then it is in violation of the law.

I agree that PETA is kinda whack sometimes, however this time I think they have a case.

Oh yeah and the points that he makes about the soldier that was killed...is weak.

[attgig]

1st amendment....what happened to that????
but yeah, according to that law, that film wouldn't be educational because not enough of a population eats cats to realize eating them is wrong....(and if they do eat them, they prolly do it themselves, so it wouldn't be anything new to them).

and also, wired claims that it was filmed in Korea. But, Koreans only eat dogs....culturally, cats symbolized something evil, so they wouldn't eat them....

and also PETA is ridiculous and they suck

[Markel]

It looks like the shark huggers are having to back pedal now: :heh:
http://news.excite.com/news/r/010904/10/odd-rights-dc

[Burzhui]

Originally posted by johnnymk
Cats can reproduce at an outstanding rate, and if they are not neutered, they reproduce exponentially.


he he :) cats, f*ck like rabbits :)

[Burzhui]

Yea PETA sucks, they are doing a good thing but improperly