That stripper/runner chick

[Blu]

What do you think of that Cross Country runner that was kicked of her team b/c she stripped at night? Her name is Leilani Rios. Her coach didn't want her stripping, but she said she needed the money, so she was kicked off the team.

[topane]

I say whatever you do outside work/school is your own business. If schools don't want to pay athletes (who earn money for the school) then they should be able to find gainful employment off campus. O yeah, I saw her website and she is one nice looking lady :love:

[welfareloser]

that's horrible. it's a legitimate way to make money. drug dealer, prostitute... fine. stripper? why not fire all the hooters waitresses too? and the ones that have the gall to sweat so much you can see thru their white tee-shirts? and if that coach catches any of them breastfeeding in public, i hope he whips the brazen hussies before kicking them off the team.

i hate everyone.

[g222leav]

if i remember correctly, the NCAA states that atheletes may not work while attending school...cause they supposedly get a scholarship, but it sounds like she didn't get one so i understand her situation.

i too am a poor struggling college student. working late nights, and studying takes it's toll...thank goodness this is my last year. it seems ridiculous though. they give out scholarships that pay for tuition, but atheletes can't afford much else.

[welfareloser]

is she NCAA? was she kicked off for having a job, or for having a certain kind of job?

i'll see if i can answer my own questions, brb...

[attgig]

she's back on the team.....if she can get enough credits..

after she was kicked...supposedly, with the media hoopla, and lawsuit, she lowered her coursework..

the school said ok, you can get back on..
but she doesn't have enough academic credits for her to be eligible...

[welfareloser]

Leilani Rios, the woman kicked off of Cal State Fullerton's cross country team in the spring of 2000 because of her refusal to quit a part-time job as an exotic dancer, was reinstated on the team and is still working as a dancer.


Leilani Rios will be back in uniform this fall.

Rios, 21, and team coach John Elders met Monday in what both called "a very friendly session," the Orange County Register reported, and planned Rios' training schedule for the upcoming fall season.

The unplanned, 15-minute meeting happened after Rios received a packet Elders mailed to all team members.

"I was very happy to get the material," Rios told the newspaper. "It made me feel like I was being welcomed back on the team. (Husband) Wayne (Hurtado) and I went over to the school to see if coach was there. He treated us like there had never been any problem between us."

"Leilani, Wayne and I got along fine. Nothing about the past year came up," Elders said of the meeting.

Elders, who had gave Rios a "U" grade in cross country for the spring 2000 semester, indicating she had not met any of the team's requirements, said the grade has been expunged from her academic record.

Rios' suspension was lifted officially on June 28, when school officials and attorneys decided her employment as an exotic dancer was constitutionally protected as an expression of free speech, the Register reported.

Still, there are questions whether Rios will be able to compete for the school in the fall.

Under NCAA rules, after three years a student-athlete is expected to have completed 50 percent of his or her credit requirements. It takes 124 credits to receive a CSF degree, and it is not known if Rios, a kinesiology major who has attended college for three years, has made satisfactory progress toward a bachelor's degree.

Citing privacy restrictions, school officials have not provided details of Rios' academic record, and Rios and her husband said their New York-based attorney has advised them not to.

from http://espn.go.com/ncaa/news/2001/0731/1233243.html

[welfareloser]

doesn't this just make you wanna puke:

from http://sports.fullerton.edu/TrackField/2001/headlines/rios.html

MAR. 26, 2001 -

Statement by Cross Country and Track and Field Head Coach John Elders:

"My decision last year regarding the dismissal of Leilani Rios from the Titans' cross country and track and field programs was based on the following principles:

1 - being a member of a collegiate athletic team is a privilege, not a right, and coaches are permitted to set standards for being a member of his/her team.

2 - a student-athlete represents not only himself/herself, but also the university, the athletics department, the coaching staff and his/her teammates whether on campus or off campus, whether in class or out of class, and whether at practice or competition.


"I determined that Ms. Rios' decision to remain an exotic dancer would detract from the image and accomplishments of her teammates, the athletics department and the university."

[welfareloser]

http://zinos.com/cool/zinos/scan/se=AR002841/sp=view_article/rs=yes/go.html

i'll paraphrase: she was discovered because MALE members of the BASEBALL TEAM were at the place where she danced.

anyone ever think fo kicking THEM off the team?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[g222leav]

somehow reminds me off varsity blues...

but anyways, looks like she was kicked off just cause of her having an exotic dancer job. really, that's not a big deal. my old crush is one, and the novelty of it wore off after awhile.

[fakesurfers]

She's obviously an asset to any university, as kinesiology is recognized as a rigorous discipline. Apparently the underwater basket weaving program was full. :laugh:

[ZrEo0]

i just have one thing to say, 97.4373% of all cross country runners are HOT! :D

[Grimm]

The university should ask for a waiver of those requirements. Due to the circumstances that were beyond her control (being illegay kicked off the team for practicing free speach). She reduced her class load because it didn't matter that she keep it up anymore because of the schools actions. The school must accept some of the responsability.

[poiselle]

Coaches have the final say about when and what an athlete can do. It seems strange, but they pretty much have you as an indentured servant, especially if you are on scholarship. I find it amazing that she was kicked off for working in an establishment where the baseball team was going, but the schools only care about their press. They got so much bad publicity that they let her on to shut everyone up. They should suspend the baseball team too.

[Grimm]

Originally posted by poiselle
Coaches have the final say about when and what an athlete can do. It seems strange, but they pretty much have you as an indentured servant, especially if you are on scholarship. I find it amazing that she was kicked off for working in an establishment where the baseball team was going, but the schools only care about their press. They got so much bad publicity that they let her on to shut everyone up. They should suspend the baseball team too.

Coaches can't interfere with your free speech if they don't want a civil suit that will get you enough money to buy your own college. Dance is a form of expression and therefore falls under free speach protection. They can keep you from practicing it on campus because it is their property, but off campus they can't touch you for free speach.
I find it despicable that they didn't can the baseball team too. It would be wrong also, but at least it wouldn't have been a double standard.

[poiselle]

A college coach can tell you when and where you can go. My coach would swing by the bars and look for wrestlers to throw off for being in the bar. The football coach has made all of the local bars off-limits and instituted a curfew for the team all season. It is their game and their rules. If a coach wants to make a rule that nobody on the team is allowed in a bar to drink or work they can. You don't have a right to be on a team. That is a privilege which they can revoke almost at their whim. It is ridiculous, but the way it is. We were also not allowed to play pickup football games, mountain bike or anything else along those lines during the 6 months of the season

[DoPeY5007]

Originally posted by poiselle
A college coach can tell you when and where you can go. My coach would swing by the bars and look for wrestlers to throw off for being in the bar. The football coach has made all of the local bars off-limits and instituted a curfew for the team all season. It is their game and their rules. If a coach wants to make a rule that nobody on the team is allowed in a bar to drink or work they can. You don't have a right to be on a team. That is a privilege which they can revoke almost at their whim. It is ridiculous, but the way it is. We were also not allowed to play pickup football games, mountain bike or anything else along those lines during the 6 months of the season

well I never did sports after high school..

but that like sux!!!...:eek:

[attgig]

coaches can do this...and i fully support the coach in his decision..

the previous examples few of many times where coaches take away your 'rights'.
The baseball coach has different standards, so I understand your point welfare...but, it's up to each individual coach what their players can/cannot do...
that article about having a double standard (though i understand where their coming from), is irrelevant considering that it's not the same coach making the decision.

The b.s. about dance being free speech is kinda stupid...
yeah, sure, it is...but she's not doing it cause she wants to 'express herself', she's doing it to pay for college (in SI magazine...she says it, so i'm not assuming anything).
the free speech argument is a loophole that she's able to use for her advantage....all power to her, but we shouldn't be fighting for her because she's not able to 'express herself'.

[welfareloser]

Originally posted by att gig
coaches can do this...and i fully support the coach in his decision..

the previous examples few of many times where coaches take away your 'rights'.
The baseball coach has different standards, so I understand your point welfare...but, it's up to each individual coach what their players can/cannot do...
that article about having a double standard (though i understand where their coming from), is irrelevant considering that it's not the same coach making the decision.

The b.s. about dance being free speech is kinda stupid...
yeah, sure, it is...but she's not doing it cause she wants to 'express herself', she's doing it to pay for college (in SI magazine...she says it, so i'm not assuming anything).
the free speech argument is a loophole that she's able to use for her advantage....all power to her, but we shouldn't be fighting for her because she's not able to 'express herself'.

but see, a job is a job. and he dint get rid of anyone else for having a job. all those mountain biking, pick-up football, and drinking prohibitions are performance-related issues - they all have the potential to lower your performance on the team (injuries, hangovers.) a job is the same; it may take too much time, rob you of sleep, etc.

but she got canned for the "self-expression" aspect of HER PARTICULAR job, not for having a job. and i doubt that the rule "no stripping" was stated up-front, and thus, she knowingly broke a coach's rule. so i don't think this is just her trying to find some loophole; i think that she is right to claim that her coach is attempting to squelch her right to self-expression.

[attgig]

that's cool...
I totally follow with the self expression....and yeah, she should fight for her free speech...

i guess my beef was about that article that you linked about the 'double standard'. It just doesn't hold water because they're different coaches...
yeah, I think that the baseball players should've gotten reprimanded, but for writer to accuse that the university itself holds a double standard, I don't agree with that.
the university (dean, whoever) doesn't seem to be breathing down the coaches back, making sure that the coaches all do the same thing...
they leave it up to the coaches best judgment.....

Do I think that the baseball coach should be doing something? yes...
can I say that Krispy Kreme U (why do they call it that anyways?) is to blame? no

[welfareloser]

i guess i dint read the whole article... no, the university isn't to blame for the original problem (tho it should not have upheld that decision by the coach.) i wasn't accusing anyone of a double standard. well, i guess i was accusing society in general. if that same guy was the coach of the men's baseball team and not the women's track team, do you think he would have done a damned thing about it if he found his guys going to titty bars? or course i don't know, but my best guess is hellnaw.

[attgig]

I'd like to give the coach the benefit of the doubt and say that he would've done something...
but kicking 4 or 5 guys off the team would've been 'impractical' so, I'd say a few games suspension.

double standard...yeah, prolly...

[TheLoneGunman]

Originally posted by fakesurfers
She's obviously an asset to any university, as kinesiology is recognized as a rigorous discipline. Apparently the underwater basket weaving program was full. :laugh:

Are you perhaps familiar with the course of study of PRESIDENT Ronald Reagan, who besides being a two-term US President was also Governor of Kalifornia?

[poiselle]

Originally posted by att gig
I'd like to give the coach the benefit of the doubt and say that he would've done something...
but kicking 4 or 5 guys off the team would've been 'impractical' so, I'd say a few games suspension.

double standard...yeah, prolly...
The funny thing is I read she was not even that good. That is probably why the coach was so quick to toss her. If she were an All-American she probably could have stayed.

[speedracer120]

As a student of CSUF, I don't really give a rat's arse. Our school is a commuter school. As such are attendance at sport events are horrible. That's why our decent Division II football program was terminated. Also we hardly get any media coverage, even for our above average and sometimes great baseball team.

If Leilani Rios wants to strip for a living good for her. It's her own life she can do with it as she pleases. And the issue of school image, it is sad that this is the only reason why are school has been on the news lately. But it's not as if other women from notable schools and otherwise have been posing for Playboy since God knows when.

[g222leav]

i wonder if i started posing for playboy and stripping i'd get my school some recognition...who the hell knows what UIC stands for anyways. as for speedracer, i know your point, my school is a commuter school as well, once 4:00 pm hits, the place is a ghost town. we're pretty well know for the recent string of rapes every year though...

but anyhooi think it's sort of a double standard. but guys goin to bar and a girl stripping is sorta different<---read: sorta

[attgig]

university of illinois chicago :)

[eSDee]

She is a hottie, that's for sure.

One thing that bothered me was that her husband was so supportive of her stripping career. Of course it's a matter of personal beliefs but I could never do that. I wouldn't want all those perverts checkin out my lady, you know?

But that's unrelated. Let her run.

[g222leav]

Originally posted by att gig
university of illinois chicago :)

correct...however, since you correctly answered the question, and therefore present the largest threat to the other contestants...YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK!

[TheLoneGunman]

She was accused of bringing disrepute to the team/school.

Therefore, let me ask you...

If you were solicited to buy tickets for/go and watch a CSUF track meet and you discovered that one of the runners was a stripper, would you:

a. Buy the tickets?
b. Push little old ladies out of the way in your mad dash to buy tickets?
c. Experience dehydration from having your tongue falling out of your mouth while you watch her heaving bosum strain against her team t-shirt as she reaches the finish line?
d. Pretend to be offended and buy tickets allegedly just to be able to publically show your disappointment (but secretly want to oogle the stripper)?

In any case, clearly she is HELPING the school, not hurting it.

By the way, strippers and porn stars are already guest lecturers at the school. I know, I attended CSUF and took the class :heh: (solely for academic purposes of course)

[aglio412]

where does she dance again? i have a pocket full of wrinkled one dollar bills with her name on them...

well ok...2 or 3 bucks...