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Y2J
09-12-2001, 12:55 AM
A lottery based on birthdays determines the order in which registered men are called up by Selective Service. The first to be called, in a sequence determined by the lottery, will be men whose 20th birthday falls during that year, followed, if needed, by those aged 21, 22, 23, 24 and 25. 18-year-olds and those turning 19 would probably not be drafted.

OC
09-12-2001, 12:58 AM
I'm 33, and willing to do anything that Bush asks me to do.

-OC

sbp
09-12-2001, 01:08 AM
For what reason would there be a draft?

brainsmile
09-12-2001, 01:15 AM
present day conventional warfare doesn't require a draft.

quick061
09-12-2001, 02:58 AM
i doubt there will be any need for a draft. what ever our actions are will require either strategic warfare weapons or special military groups. a draft would only be required if WW-III were breaking out, but with all the major world powers aligned with us, i seriously doubt that will happen.

Burzhui
09-12-2001, 07:50 AM
if they draft, i will go there with my bare hands if i have to... at least you dioe for a good cause

g222leav
09-12-2001, 08:38 AM
i can see your support, but if you go into it expecting to die, sounds sort of terror-ish?

Hiro
09-12-2001, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by g222leav
i can see your support, but if you go into it expecting to die, sounds sort of terror-ish?

I agree, but at this point its extremely hard to say what would happen even if there were a draft.

TheLoneGunman
09-12-2001, 09:38 AM
Just hook me up with the Heckler & Koch grenade machine gun and let me go :-)

I would also be willing to go to NORAD and "play in the mountain"

Of course, if I was flying a plane, it would have to go low and slow since I am afraid of heights.

Chances are, though, I am on the "don't draft this guy even if we get invaded and have no one else" list.

The Happy Squirrel
09-12-2001, 09:52 AM
too bad i cannot nnot be drafter
<too many health issues>

but i would stll fight for the country by holding down the home front while you boys kick some ass across the seas

Nija
09-12-2001, 09:55 AM
I would happily be drafted. Signed up once. Won't mind doing it again.
But there is no way in hell i'm thinking I'm gonna die. If I get drafted, I'm doing my job, and trying to come home in one piece, and alive.

Nija

pennypinch
09-12-2001, 10:01 AM
I believe there is some provision that if you are an only male child, you can't be drafted either (something about not ending the family bloodline).

While there won't be a draft, it is something to think about.

TheLoneGunman
09-12-2001, 10:12 AM
I am also trying to increase my rank so I can go in as a Full Admiral or whatever the highest rank is.

Grimm
09-12-2001, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by Burzhui
if they draft, i will go there with my bare hands if i have to... at least you dioe for a good cause

Dying for your country doesn't do anyone any good. The trick is to make the other SOB die for his!

Me:
Age 33
Only son.
Served in US Navy '86 to '91 (under current law they can not draft someone who has already served and their "inactive reserve" time has run out)

No, I am the last guy they would take.

IrishSS
09-12-2001, 10:15 AM
If there was to be a draft, I wouldn't even hesitate to enlist. As an American, I feel it is my duty to protect those who have provided for me. This country has given me everythign I have, and I least I can do is help protect it.

revil
09-12-2001, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by overclocked
I'm 33, and willing to do anything that Bush asks me to do.

-OC

In my mind, that can be taken two ways. One way, i'd give you a high five. the other way, I'd have to say EW EW EW!

Keep in mind that my mind is very dirty.

eSDee
09-12-2001, 01:23 PM
Why don't you guys just join anyways? Go through basic training and schooling, and then enter the Reserves. That way if Uncle Sam ever needs you you'll be ready.

ironchef
09-12-2001, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by EsDeeLoco
Why don't you guys just join anyways? Go through basic training and schooling, and then enter the Reserves. That way if Uncle Sam ever needs you you'll be ready.
Personally, I rarely agree with the way in which Uncle Sam flexes his muscles. This is the only time in my life (a short one of only 23 years, mind you) that I can honestly say I would be behind US military action.

I am diabetic, and as far as I know this limits by capacity for paricipation. But as frightening as it seems, I'm pretty certain I would support this.

g222leav
09-12-2001, 04:05 PM
i must admit....

when i first heard the news, i wasn't to keen of the idea of being drafted. i'm one of those peace lovin' hippie kids (ok, just kidding). i was really afraid of war, and such. the last war i remember being the gulf, i was maybe 10 or 11, and all i heard was "no blodd for oil" and such. propelling the idea that wars were political games and that nothing came about from war. i remembered that life was the same before and after the gulf...but i was just a kid. being the only male (aged 21) and also in school, i doubt there'd be a very small chance that i'd be drafted. either way, at first i didn't want to be drafted, i was afraid.

but then i got to my grandma's house, remembered that i had friends at fordham university, friends that worked at the WTC, family in nyc, friend's families that work for american...then i saw the pictures. the devastation, the fear of people when they were running....then i listened to people calling into radio stations, and reading posts here at GA...then i got to thinking...if ever there was a reason for war, this would be it.

ArkiStan
09-12-2001, 07:46 PM
Well, I'm scheduled to enter the Korean army early next year as soon as the semester is over. If anything happens, I'll be fighting on your side.

xsiled
09-12-2001, 07:50 PM
geeze im 15 and i understand that a draft is unconstitutional why cant you guys

sbp
09-12-2001, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by xsiled
geeze im 15 and i understand that a draft is unconstitutional why cant you guys Please explain why it is.

hapoo
09-12-2001, 08:12 PM
heres whats really on MY mind... if there was a draft and i was selected... would all those hours playing doom/quake finally pay off?

coleslaw
09-12-2001, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by hapoo
heres whats really on MY mind... if there was a draft and i was selected... would all those hours playing doom/quake finally pay off?

haha, no hapoo, you wouldn't have a crosshair floating in mid-air to assist in head shots.

sbp
09-12-2001, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by hapoo
heres whats really on MY mind... if there was a draft and i was selected... would all those hours playing doom/quake finally pay off? According to David Grossman it would. :rolleyes:

g222leav
09-12-2001, 08:30 PM
yea, i can imagine my drill sargent yelling at me....

"why the hell are you crouching, and jumping up and down and side ways...and whatever the hell you're doin that looks like you're imitating the matrix (ala max payne; bullettime) isn't gonna work dumbass"

ArkiStan
09-12-2001, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by xsiled
geeze im 15 and i understand that a draft is unconstitutional why cant you guys

48 hours ago, you would have been raising an important public issue. At this point in time.... you're just saying a lot about yourself.

Nija
09-12-2001, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by g222leav
yea, i can imagine my drill sargent yelling at me....

"why the hell are you crouching, and jumping up and down and side ways...and whatever the hell you're doin that looks like you're imitating the matrix (ala max payne; bullettime) isn't gonna work dumbass"

You could only *wish* they were that nice to you...

Fort Sill, OK August. summer of 1997 for me *shudder*

*convulsions*

sbp
09-12-2001, 11:31 PM
http://www.home.ins.de/~fmj/Images/Barracks/barracks_hartmanyell.jpg

DARTH
09-12-2001, 11:47 PM
I have a wife and a bright future ahead of me as many of you do. I also have always been one of those people who respected the military, but also was a bit confused how anyone could take orders without understanding why. After the past days events I have disabused myself of that misunderstanding. We will DESTROY EVERY country that harbors such vermin. If it means WWIII,so be it. Remember There will continue to be terrorist attacks regardless of what we do or do not do. We are the MOST powerful nation in the world and we need to, once again, set an example that this sort of thing is not to be tolerated. If it means we need to attack the Arab nations and commence with WWIII I will have no problem enlisting in the Marines. 20K-30K deaths is 10x the casualties of Pearl Harbor and over half the casualties in Vietnam and these were civilians. Afghanistan, Pakistan. Iran and Iraq want to provide havens for these people and disallow us retrievable and subsequent extermination of this plague on OUR world they are as guilty as those committing these horrid acts. 31 years of trouble and death from the middle-east is far too long. This will end very shortly and must, by whatever means need be. I am sorry if this comes across harsh but I have always been a patriot and
in these past black days I have felt a strong shock to my world. My
country-men have died in vast numbers for no fault of their own. I will not have my wife and future children grow up in a world where
this sort of mayhem is not dealt with swiftly and with a direct stinging justice. My civilian country-men brought down the 4th plane in PA. They gave their lives to save people they did not ever meet, to save their country. All because of cowards. I can not rest knowing their widows, husbands and orphaned children's pain will not be avenged. I will most certainly seek enlistment options in the MARINES, if they will have me as I have Panic Disorder, if this turns in to what I believe it will...WWIII.

rlue
09-12-2001, 11:49 PM
Hey, i'm 15 and if I were 18 I'd join the military (if the need arose) but I really don't think that with modern warfare technology, standing armies are going to be worth anything. What troubles me most about that is that the only victims to assault now will have to be civilians... Which would make us as bad as them. Furthermore, I'ma be real pissed if this was a private act, cuz then the gov't can't do too much in retaliation. I'm also really confused as to how they hijacked the plane with X-acto knives...

"I want him BROUGHT IN... and I want him brought in by the book! We have to show him that our way works!"

--Commissioner Gordon

uicsux
09-13-2001, 02:15 AM
Originally posted by Burzhui
at least you dioe for a good cause
i am by no means condoning the actions that took place 2 days ago, but looking at it from the other perspective. what if the terrorists figured that by taking the lives of others, they were bringing the people that died closer to god. is that good cause to die?

DARTH
09-13-2001, 02:21 AM
Absolutely NOT!! This was not their intentions!! And such a belief, though it may not be yours, is absurd.God gives us life so that we die quickly and get back to him? That is just not logical.

xsiled
09-13-2001, 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by xsiled
geeze im 15 and i understand that a draft is unconstitutional why cant you guys



Originally posted by sbp
Please explain why it is.

as a FREE person i CHOOSE what I want to do and not do

El Scorcho
09-13-2001, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by xsiled
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Originally posted by xsiled
geeze im 15 and i understand that a draft is unconstitutional why cant you guys




as a FREE person i CHOOSE what I want to do and not do

Thats fine and dandy but if nobody joins the army and theres nothing to defend our country... what good is freedom if its about to be taken from you. Sometimes people force you to do whats best for you... or in this case the country.

xsiled
09-13-2001, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by El Scorcho


Thats fine and dandy but if nobody joins the army and theres nothing to defend our country... what good is freedom if its about to be taken from you. Sometimes people force you to do whats best for you... or in this case the country.

i never said that im just saying that there will never be a draft BUT people are FREE to join on thier own

sbp
09-13-2001, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by xsiled
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Originally posted by xsiled
geeze im 15 and i understand that a draft is unconstitutional why cant you guys




as a FREE person i CHOOSE what I want to do and not do With freedom comes obligations and responsibilities. You'll learn this when you get older.