Bush Has Just Said This

[Burzhui]

We found evidence that this was planned by afghanistan and that most likely Bin Laden was not the one to do this because this operation looks like it was professionaly executed and was archestrated by special services. Afghanistan will be bombed and these muslims will pay

Guys, Bush has just said that on tv in a phone conversation with mayor Juliani and Governor Pataki

[Burzhui]

oh yea the part that i bolded out, is not my edition that was exactly what he said

[welfareloser]

Originally posted by Burzhui
oh yea the part that i bolded out, is not my edition that was exactly what he said

:rolleyes: nice of you to emphasize their religion for us. we weren't sure how you felt, thanks for clearing it up.

fortunately, bush meant the muslims responsible and the muslims harboring those responsible, not all muslims.

[Burzhui]

Well yea, i mean obviously he will not go for some little clan of Muslims in Brooklyn :P

I mean he did say afghanistan

[Burzhui]

I was just saying what he said

It kinda sucks though that the day came where i actually have to quote him :(

[Butch]

Burzhui, would you please quit your incessant baiting? Bush said nothing of the sort. The text of his phone conversation is on the New York Times website. You've gone from blaming the Palestinians to blaming Bin Laden and now Afghanistan. How about you just quit making accusations for now and quit being so inflammatory. Please try talking about the facts for a change.

[Jihforce]

If you are going to quote anyone, I would like to see a link to where you got the info from.

[welfareloser]

Originally posted by Jihforce
If you are going to quote anyone, I would like to see a link to where you got the info from.

me too. good point. i really shouldn't believe anything you call "fact."

[Burzhui]

I watched it on TV dude, i don't have a link sorry :(

[Burzhui]

Oh yea and Bin Laden is in afghanistan and is under the protection of Taliban

[Burzhui]

The announcement of his visit was made in a brief televised telephone call with Governor George E. Pataki and Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani.

"I weep and mourn with America," the President said. "There is a quiet anger in America," he added, but went on to warn Americans not to target their anger at Arab Americans and Muslims, even though Islamic extremists are high on the list of possible suspects in the trade center and Pentagon attacks.

"My resolve is steady and strong about winning this war that has been declared on America," Mr. Bush said. "It's a new kind of war. The government will adjust and this government will call other governments to join us."



if this is what you are refering to then no, this is a different phone call, in the one that i heard he said nothing about comming to NYC

[welfareloser]

from: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/13/national/13BUSH-TEXT.html

But make no mistake about it. My resolve is steady and strong about winning this war that has been declared on America. It's a new kind of war. And I understand it's a new kind of war. And this government will adjust. And this government will call others to join us to make sure this act, these acts, the people who conducted these acts and those who harbor them are held accountable for their actions. Make no mistake.

And as we do so, I urge — I know I don't need to tell you all this — but our nation must be mindful that there are thousands of Arab-Americans who live in New York City who love their flag just as much as the three of us do. And we must be mindful that as we seek to win the war that we treat Arab-Americans and Muslims with the respect they deserve. I know that is your attitudes as well. Certainly the attitude of this government, that we should not hold one who is a Muslim responsible for an act of terror. We will hold those who are responsible for the terrorist acts accountable and those who harbor them.

i have a hard time believing that you heard some OTHER phone conversation between these SAME THREE PEOPLE. i think this is the only one. i guess you hear what you want to hear, BURZHUI.

[sbp]

Just running around like a chicken little reporting every rumor and pointing the finger of blame.

[pennypinch]

Originally posted by Burzhui
if this is what you are refering to then no, this is a different phone call, in the one that i heard he said nothing about comming to NYC

That, or you are a flaming bigot that's just lookin' for a fight.

[Jihforce]

Ok, look, I'm kind of tired of all this...and seriousy, I would really appreciated if all this finger pointing would stop. I've got friends who are muslim and I don't appreciated it when you place judgements on their religion and their people. I don't know what exactly you are trying to prove, but unless you find some substatial evidence, stop starting threads like this. I mean, look at welfare over there, whenever she has an opinion, she backs it up with facts...and she actually READS the WHOLE article unlike someone.
Talk about tunnel vision and selective hearing...

[Burzhui]

Originally posted by welfareloser
from: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/13/national/13BUSH-TEXT.html

i have a hard time believing that you heard some OTHER phone conversation between these SAME THREE PEOPLE. i think this is the only one. i guess you hear what you want to hear, BURZHUI.

Ok first of all, this is not the only converstion they called each other about 10 times yesterday and about 5 times today... i mean really do you think they will call each other once and forget about it...

Plus someone must have heard the conversation, back me up peoples

[Butch]

Don't you think if Bush had actually said that the attack was definitely a state sponsored act by Afghanistan (Not to mention the inflammatory Muslim statements), that it would be plastered all over every news site and TV screen by now? If it was really said, I somehow doubt you would be the only person to have picked up on it.

[welfareloser]

Originally posted by Burzhui


Ok first of all, this is not the only converstion they called each other about 10 times yesterday and about 5 times today... i mean really do you think they will call each other once and forget about it...

i think:
1. it is extraordinarily difficult, UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, let alone during the current situation in which they are busier than normal, to get ALL THREE of these guys to sit down on the phone at the same time.
2. it is very likely that there was only one such three-way call (and even if there were more, that they were not publicized)
3. i don't think they "forgot" about it. i think they remember it quite well, unlike some.


Plus someone must have heard the conversation, back me up peoples [/QUOTE]

give me anything. any bit of evidence AT ALL that there was some other publicized three way call between these guys.

and i wouldn't reccommend holding your breath on the "peoples" here backing you up on much of anything...

[Burzhui]

i will search for it, and it must be published someplace, just to prove you wrong welfareLoser.

[eSDee]

Burzhui why don't you take a break from the boards a bit. You're posts are borderline troll posts. You're obviously upset, as most people are, but all your rumors and judgements are immature. You're only succeeding at upsetting a lot more people than necessary.

If you are going to post something, make sure you have a link.

[welfareloser]

Originally posted by Burzhui
i will search for it, and it must be published someplace, just to prove you wrong welfareLoser.

good luck.

and, even if bush said exactly what you "quoted" above...

you're still a troll for putting the religion in bold face and saying "see, i'm just saying what the president said..."

no, that was NOT "just" saying what the president said. that was making one more little dig in a series of nasty digs at a religion.

and finding evidence of your "quote" won't exactly prove me wrong, since i'm not saying "no way, that absolutely did not happen." i just have some very strong suspicions based on some very good evidence: i'm guessing that you heard what you wanted to hear, not what was said. i'd just like to see a little evidence.

[Burzhui]

Originally posted by EsDeeLoco
Burzhui why don't you take a break from the boards a bit. You're posts are borderline troll posts. You're obviously upset, as most people are, but all your rumors and judgements are immature. You're only succeeding at upsetting a lot more people than necessary.

If you are going to post something, make sure you have a link.

Dude, i heard it on TV, i'm sorry but i can't link you to it, for some reason they replayed that conversation about 3 times and they have stoped it short every time, so that part was cut out.

And i did not spread any rumors look in the thread that i started, there were no rumors there, everything that i posted was taken out of 1)NY1
2)CNN
3)NTV

[Burzhui]

Originally posted by welfareloser


you're still a troll for putting the religion in bold face and saying "see, i'm just saying what the president said..."



Originally posted by Burzhui


Well yea, i mean obviously he will not go for some little clan of Muslims in Brooklyn
I mean he did say afghanistan



Did i not say that?

[welfareloser]

the new york times shows the conversation, in its entirety (link above.) so you are referring, not to some part of THAT conversation, which is what they have televised about three times this morning on cnn, but to some "other" conversation. if you can find evidence of this "other" conversation that was supposedly televised on cnn (which i have been watching quite a bit lately and have not caught even a whiff of), i will do the rest of your reseach for you and try to dig up a transcript.

[welfareloser]

Originally posted by Burzhui


Did i not say that? [/QUOTE]

yes you did. you have also said:

Ok the whole of Palestine is partying it's been reported that they are raelly happy about the situation in the us

THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL BLAME: I JUST SAW IT ON TV

(right, i don't think you saw "the whole of palestine" doing anything)

And why do you think that everyone in palestine is partying their asses off?

(again, not everyone. and you said it twice, so it was hardly a heat-of-the-moment slip)

I still think it was the middle East... and if they admit to it, they are gone

(the whole middle east?)

ANd Bush said that if they find out who did it, this nation will not exist any longer, i hope he keeps his word on that one... whoever did this is an animal, and deseves to die

(a whole nation probly dint do it, and bush probly dint say he would wipe out a whole nation)

I have a list of a couple of countries that i would like to erase from this planet, got my map and eraser handy

yea George Bush was right when he said that, we should inhialate them.
And those countries who had people cheering, they should suffer as well...
(the whole country should suffer?)

and these factions are harbored by countries, such as arafats fatah= evil organization and the jihad, PLO, PDFL, hamas, and all of em, they should just wipe those nations of the face of this planet i for one am sick and tired of it, those people are born to die... there will not be peace on this planet if they exist.

It's cool how they don't censor people, i like that, you can really express how you feel :) ...quote: Originally posted by ya cha cha
What really makes me sick is all the celebrating in Pakistan. Really makes me want to kill the pakistan children with their little dances and flags.

First and foremost Brewmaster, F*uck you for putting that palestinian flag there.

i lived there and i've seen how people are treated, and to tell you the truth i am only against arabs that live there. (that is not, as you calimed, "not generalizing," simply because you chose to generalize about a smaller group - muslims from certain countries - than all muslims everywhere)

there's more, but i am tired. my point is, just because you think that some muslims from the us or other places are okay, doesn't mean your not a bigot. bigotry on a smaller scale than some is still bigotry.

[Burzhui]

Originally posted by welfareloser
the new york times shows the conversation, in its entirety (link above.) so you are referring, not to some part of THAT conversation, which is what they have televised about three times this morning on cnn, but to some "other" conversation. if you can find evidence of this "other" conversation that was supposedly televised on cnn (which i have been watching quite a bit lately and have not caught even a whiff of), i will do the rest of your reseach for you and try to dig up a transcript.

Did i not say that it's not the same conversation?
and who said it was televised on cnn? i never said that

[TheLoneGunman]

Not sure about everything, but he did have a 3-way call, he was pretty pissed, and he said he was coming to New York:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/DailyNews/WTC_dc010913.html

[mojo]

Originally posted by Burzhui
I was just saying what he said

It kinda sucks though that the day came where i actually have to quote him :(

apparently you DIDN'T quote him, as is pointed out several times since you posted this. and it kinda sucks that the country is in shambles and you feel it necessary to use it as an opportunity to air your ill feelings toward our own president. this is a time that we need to stick together. GAM made it clear that we shouldnt post threads of political blame and whatnot. some people still use veiled remarks, but personally i find it petty to make any mention at this time when we need to be supportive.

[Burzhui]

It sucks dude, W made another speech and you could see the tears in his eyes :bawl: