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MaggieOK
09-18-2001, 12:22 PM
I'm not a feminist, but I find these details horrific.

http://www.feminist.org/afghan/facts.html

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Gender Apartheid - The Elimination of Women's Rights

Upon seizing power, the Taliban instituted a system of gender apartheid effectively thrusting the women of Afghanistan into a state of virtual house arrest. Under Taliban rule women have been stripped of their visibility, voice, and mobility. When they took control in 1996, the Taliban initially imposed strict edicts that:

Banished women from the work force
Closed schools to girls in cities and expelled women from universities
Prohibited women from leaving their homes unless accompanied by a close male relative
Ordered the publicly visible windows of women's houses painted black and forced women to wear the burqa (or chadari) - which completely shrouds the body, leaving only a small mesh-covered opening through which to see
Prohibited women and girls from being examined by male physicians while at the same time, prohibited most female doctors and nurses from working. (Currently there are a few, selected female doctors allowed to operate in segregated wards.)
Women have been brutally beaten, publicly flogged, and killed for violating Taliban decrees. Even after international condemnation, the Taliban has made only slight changes. Some say it is progress that a few women doctors and nurses are working, even while hospitals still have segregated wards for women; that in Kabul and other cities, a few home schools for girls operate, although only in secret. In addition, women who conduct home schools are risking their lives or a severe beating. But the overall reality of the tragic plight of Afghan women and girls has remained virtually unchanged.

Gender Apartheid -- The Reality of Women and Girls

A woman who defied Taliban orders by running a home school for girls was killed in front of her family and friends.
A woman caught trying to flee Afghanistan with a man not related to her was stoned to death for adultery.
An elderly woman was brutally beaten with a metal cable until her leg was broken because her ankle was accidentally showing from underneath her burqa.
Women have died of curable ailments because male doctors were not allowed to treat them.
Two women accused of prostitution were publicly hung.
Taliban Law Is In Opposition To Islam

Prior to the Civil War and Taliban control, especially in Kabul, the capital, women in Afghanistan were educated and employed: 50% of the students and 60% of the teachers at Kabul University were women, and 70% of school teachers, 50% of civilian government workers, and 40% of doctors in Kabul were women.

LPMiller
09-18-2001, 05:34 PM
frankly, I'd happily invade afgan just for the terrible things the taliban does to it's people.

TheLoneGunman
09-18-2001, 05:42 PM
You forgot...

"Cancelled upcoming 'Busty Babes of Bin Laden' photo spread as well as the adult video "Tonya Takes The Taliban Terrorists"

Grimm
09-18-2001, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by TheLoneGunman
You forgot...

"Cancelled upcoming 'Busty Babes of Bin Laden' photo spread as well as the adult video "Tonya Takes The Taliban Terrorists"

Ummm.... isn't bin Laden's wife 13 years old? Not sure that's the kind of photo spread I want to see.:hmm:

Burzhui
09-18-2001, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by TheLoneGunman
You forgot...

"Cancelled upcoming 'Busty Babes of Bin Laden' photo spread as well as the adult video "Tonya Takes The Taliban Terrorists"

ROFL :heh: :heh:

welfareloser
09-18-2001, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by MaggieOK
I'm not a feminist, but I find these details horrific.


"i'm not a feminist, but.." ??? what does that mean? just seems a very odd thing to say.

Kenas
09-18-2001, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by MaggieOK
I'm not a feminist, but I find these details horrific.

http://www.feminist.org/afghan/facts.html

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I am not femenis either, but some of those facts about women make me a femenist. Just the fact that women have to hide their faces, pisses me off. You know some women are pretty and pretty faces should be exposed to everybody.

Burzhui
09-18-2001, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by Kenas


I am not femenis either, but some of those facts about women make me a femenist. Just the fact that women have to hide their faces, pisses me off. You know some women are pretty and pretty faces should be exposed to everybody.

well that and that they get beaten for no reason, what the f*ck is up with that, if you are a real man you would not beat on a woman, unless she is like a bodybuilder and is like 350 pounds of pure muscle and is beating on you, in which case you can either run, or most likely be beaten into bloody pulp, and then lie there in your own blood and piss... anyways, there is many things that just piss me off about how they treat women, they are worse off then animals there.

MaggieOK
09-18-2001, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by welfareloser


"i'm not a feminist, but.." ??? what does that mean? just seems a very odd thing to say.

Well, feminists are sorta "finatic" in my opinion. The link I posted was to a page within feminist.com. I actually think the country was better off when women used to stay home with their children. But, that's another topic.

Anck Su Namun
09-18-2001, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by evilcyclops


Ummm.... isn't bin Laden's wife 13 years old? Not sure that's the kind of photo spread I want to see.:hmm:

Is that really true?? 13 years old? or are you kidding...

welfareloser
09-18-2001, 07:59 PM
some feminists are fanatical. so are some "anti-feminists." but the definition of a feminist is simply someone who believes in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes... so i count myself a feminist, and wonder at those who do not. issues of what women SHOULD be doing aside, they should be considered equal to men and should be free to choose their own destiny, whether it makes the country better or not. that's all i'm thinkin.

Burzhui
09-18-2001, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by MaggieOK


Well, feminists are sorta "finatic" in my opinion. The link I posted was to a page within feminist.com. I actually think the country was better off when women used to stay home with their children. But, that's another topic.

we're on to you, you're just lazy :)

Jenny
09-18-2001, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by Kenas


I am not femenis either, but some of those facts about women make me a femenist. Just the fact that women have to hide their faces, pisses me off. You know some women are pretty and pretty faces should be exposed to everybody.

Wait... Maybe I'm being too sensitive, but are you basically saying that the only reason women shouldn't have to hide their faces is because some women have pretty faces? lol I'm sorry if I read that wrong, but...

welfareloser
09-18-2001, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Jenny


Wait... Maybe I'm being too sensitive, but are you basically saying that the only reason women shouldn't have to hide their faces is because some women have pretty faces? lol I'm sorry if I read that wrong, but...

erk. lemme step in. he was saying that women are beautiful creatures and god dint make em borned with veils for a reason.

please just agree with me, kenas, and make this all go away before it starts... ;)

Burzhui
09-18-2001, 08:24 PM
I think i'll say it for kenas, no such thing as an ugly woman...













..... however there is such a thing as not enough alchohol :D

welfareloser
09-18-2001, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by Burzhui
I think i'll say it for kenas, no such thing as an ugly woman...
..... however there is such a thing as not enough alchohol :D

if nothing else, you are good for taking the heat off other people... :P

Burzhui
09-18-2001, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by welfareloser


if nothing else, you are good for taking the heat off other people... :P

yea, that and a couple of other things...:P

Kenas
09-18-2001, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by Jenny


Wait... Maybe I'm being too sensitive, but are you basically saying that the only reason women shouldn't have to hide their faces is because some women have pretty faces? lol I'm sorry if I read that wrong, but...

Yeah you are being too sensitive.

Kenas
09-18-2001, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by welfareloser


erk. lemme step in. he was saying that women are beautiful creatures and god dint make em borned with veils for a reason.

please just agree with me, kenas, and make this all go away before it starts... ;)

Actually that is what I ment, I believe women are beautiful creatures, their faces and their bodies, and I think faces and bodies should be exposed as art in museums. (not all but some!!!)

Burzhui
09-18-2001, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by Kenas


Yeah you are being too sensitive.
:heh: :heh:

Burzhui
09-19-2001, 08:07 AM
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20010919/capt.1000904152pakistan_afghanistan_attacks_jal102.jpg

attgig
09-19-2001, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by Kenas


Actually that is what I ment, I believe women are beautiful creatures, their faces and their bodies, and I think faces and bodies should be exposed as art in museums. (not all but some!!!)

Obviously, Kenas is a subscriber to Playboy, Penthouse, and other Art periodicals. :)

Burzhui
09-19-2001, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by att gig


Obviously, Kenas is a subscriber to Playboy, Penthouse, and other Art periodicals. :)

Nah he just gets the sears catalogue :P :heh:

TheLoneGunman
09-19-2001, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by att gig
Obviously, Kenas is a subscriber to Playboy, Penthouse, and other Art periodicals. :)

But he only reads them for their news content

Burzhui
09-19-2001, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by TheLoneGunman


But he only reads them for their news content :heh: :heh:

Kenas
09-19-2001, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by TheLoneGunman


But he only reads them for their news content

Do they report news?