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TheLoneGunman
09-20-2001, 12:48 AM
There were protests at UC Berkeley over this cartoon. Mostly they were white, bleeding heart students who wouldn't have a clue if it crashed into them at 500mph!

What do you think?

http://sfgate.com/chronicle/pictures/2001/09/19/darrinbellcartoon.jpg

BTW, the paper is standing by the cartoon.

sbp
09-20-2001, 01:00 AM
Nope doesn't offend me.

topane
09-20-2001, 05:22 AM
I'm surprised it's not Jack Chick's work

Anck Su Namun
09-20-2001, 12:17 PM
Doesn't offend me either

ironchef
09-20-2001, 12:43 PM
Jack Chick offends me.

But this cartoon doesn't.

Markel
09-20-2001, 12:47 PM
I personally am not offended by the cartoon. However, I think we need to realize that it is taking a swipe at one particular religious belief. As a comparison, consider how you (TLG) might feel if there was a cartoon making fun of Jews celebrating Rosh Hashanah. (I am certainly not advocating such, but it might help to see things from another perspective.)

Burzhui
09-20-2001, 12:58 PM
Ok first of all Jews don't kill themselves for Rosh Hashanah

Second of all nope doesn't offend me

ironchef
09-20-2001, 01:02 PM
is the whole "servicing by 40 whores" bit really a part of the religion?

johnnymk
09-20-2001, 01:08 PM
Doesn't offend me either. Political correctness will be taking a much needed vacation.

Markel
09-20-2001, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by Burzhui
Ok first of all Jews don't kill themselves for Rosh Hashanah

That is totally irrelevant to the point I am making. What I am trying to get people to see is how the cartoon could be offensive to followers of Islam. If something comparable were printed poking fun at the Jewish religion, the Jewish Antidefamation League would probably be quite outspoken against it.

topane
09-20-2001, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by ironchef
is the whole "servicing by 40 whores" bit really a part of the religion? hmmm, not the last time I checked...of course, I could just start my own religion, just like Elron

pennypinch
09-20-2001, 01:34 PM
I have no problem with it whatsoever. It speaks to the fact that these people were not religious, they were fanatical to the point of obscuring the central points of their faith.

I think the only people that were offended by this were those that are blindly reactionary and anti-establishmentarian for the pure sake of being so. Butch and I went to college with scores of them; while I surely don't consider myself a solid conservative by any stretch of the imagination, just reacting negatively to whatever those in power says seems to be in vogue among many of people my age.

This is not condemning those of "true" Islamic faith. It's condemning those that have twisted and perverted that faith.

welfareloser
09-20-2001, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by pennypinch
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what he said.

mojo
09-20-2001, 04:38 PM
isnt that which is depicted more like the christian version of hell? or is the muslim version of hell similar (if it exists)?

mojo
09-20-2001, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by ironchef
is the whole "servicing by 40 whores" bit really a part of the religion?

it's virgins...not whores...big difference

mojo
09-20-2001, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by pennypinch
I have no problem with it whatsoever. It speaks to the fact that these people were not religious, they were fanatical to the point of obscuring the central points of their faith.

I think the only people that were offended by this were those that are blindly reactionary and anti-establishmentarian for the pure sake of being so. Butch and I went to college with scores of them; while I surely don't consider myself a solid conservative by any stretch of the imagination, just reacting negatively to whatever those in power says seems to be in vogue among many of people my age.

This is not condemning those of "true" Islamic faith. It's condemning those that have twisted and perverted that faith.

maybe those that were offended by this saw merely had a different understanding of it than you did. if you don't agree, that doesnt make them "blindly reactionary." they may have valid points in the end

welfareloser
09-20-2001, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by mojorisin


maybe those that were offended by this saw merely had a different understanding of it than you did. if you don't agree, that doesnt make them "blindly reactionary." they may have valid points in the end

doh. what he said.

BrewMaster
09-20-2001, 11:16 PM
I'm not offended, but don't you think this is a little unnecessary considering the way arabs arebeing targeted right now. It's not wrong, just inappropriate i think.

Showtime
09-20-2001, 11:35 PM
We have a right to print and say things that people in other countries cant.
We also have a right to disagree with anything that is said or printed.
AND WE ALSO HAVE THE RIGHT TO NOT GIVE A DAMN!(lil cartoon depicting a group of people in an unexpected position, now thats a new idea :P)

I dont believe in flag burning(you dont love it, than leave it), but i support the rights of Americans to do so. This would be the worst time for anarchist to "express themselves", but it is their right. Difference of opinion is the American way!

johnnymk
09-21-2001, 03:19 PM
I have a relative who doesn't celebrate birthdays, holidays,etc.(You can figure out the religion)> Her relatively new husband wanted to display the flag last weekend. He was in the Navy for a long time. She said "No". It's against her religion. He buckled under and didn't display it.
Well, she has the right to not fly the flag, but I also have the right to call her a Commie Pinko and her husband a Wimp.