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welfareloser
09-20-2001, 03:32 PM
let me start by saying IT IS NOT CLOGGED.

okay. so i flush a single tissue down the toilet, and it suddenly starts overflowing like mad and won't stop. the water from the tank won't stop going into the bowl, and the water in the bowl isn't going down the drain at all.

there is this big black plastic thing that i propped up and that stopped the water flowing from tank to bowl, but it dint help anything else.

any ideas?

Kim
09-20-2001, 03:38 PM
If you can hold on for a few hours, my husband is a plumber. He is flying home tonite, and I'll ask him. Could save you an expensive service call?? Let me know....

welfareloser
09-20-2001, 03:43 PM
we rent, so it wouldn't be on my money, and we have two bathrooms (whew!) - so i can definitely hold out. all suggestions welcome, since i won't be able to get a hold of maintenance til the morning. thanks!!!!

sho.gun
09-20-2001, 03:45 PM
If the water isn't going down at all doesnt that mean it's clogged? Take one of those rubber plumber thingies Mario uses and give it a couple of good shoves. You can turn off the water by turning a knob that's usually located behind the toilet, then you can work on it without worrying about more spills. Good luck.

Twilight
09-20-2001, 04:01 PM
I seem to remember you mentioning a munchkin in your house... time to start asking the little monster some questions...

Kim
09-20-2001, 04:05 PM
Oh the fun-kid-flushed things my husband has dug out of toilets....I hope that is not the problem.;)

welfareloser
09-20-2001, 04:10 PM
hell i dint even think of that... i taught him to flush a coupla days ago... crap.

if i'm that dumb, i don't stand a chance against him, do i?

the interrogation begins now...

El Scorcho
09-20-2001, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by welfareloser
hell i dint even think of that... i taught him to flush a coupla days ago... crap.

if i'm that dumb, i don't stand a chance against him, do i?

the interrogation begins now...

"Bye bye keys"

Jeffbx
09-20-2001, 06:59 PM
Sure sounds like something is stuck in there. Hopefully nothing expensive!

Get yourself one of those funny looking accordion type plungers. Those things will unclog a city sewer....

Speedfreak
09-20-2001, 07:02 PM
Try to get an M-80 flushed a ways down (lit of course, long water fuse). That should clear the clog. :D

Kim
09-20-2001, 08:36 PM
Ok, I just got the profeesional scoop. Dh said that there is a clog somewhere. There is no way that the water would stay in the bowl with that much water coming from the tank unless there was a clog. Depending on what is plugging it, a plunger may do the trick, otherwise you will need to use a closet auger. Sorry my news was not better. Good luck to you.

welfareloser
09-20-2001, 08:42 PM
okay, the interrogation yielded no useful information beyond a big glob of chewed up golfish that dint stay in his mout when he tried to talk...

but i plunged it, and whatever it was, it's gone now. thanks, everyone!

Jpeace121
09-20-2001, 08:44 PM
Question. Does the TV change channels when you flush the toilet?

welfareloser
09-20-2001, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by Jpeace121
Question. Does the TV change channels when you flush the toilet?

now that you mention it, i ahve not seen the remote for a few hours.

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu**...

attgig
09-20-2001, 08:54 PM
reminds me of the tiny toons, where plucky starts flushing everything down the toilet...."teddy go down the whole":D


Anyways, definitely use that Mario gizmo, the plunger and wham it a few times...so that IF anything at all is clogged (and I know u deny it, but seriously, everything leads to that conclusion).....it'll turn up...

yeah, the black thing inside will stop it, but usually there's a little faucet type thing that you can close so that no water goes in..

oh, and drano, or liquid plumber usually doesn't work...
if you read the labels carefully they usually say don't use in toilets...

DaFunkyUnit
09-20-2001, 11:45 PM
in the words of Baby Plucky Duck :

Remote go down the hoooole!!!

Markel
09-21-2001, 07:13 AM
Having 5 kids gives you plenty of experience with these things. :) Once one of my kids dropped a cassette tape into the toilet as it was flushing. Of course it only made it half way down, but depending on which way it was turned things would sometimes work ok and other times not. I finally had to pull off the toilet to get the thing out (and you haven't lived until you've done this!). Another time it was the same thing with a racquet ball.

A few tricks to keep in your arsenal:
1)Keep a flexible "fishwire" of sorts with some kind of hook on the end. (My personal one is the throttle cable from an old lawn mower.) Several times I have been able to snake it down and hook an item and bring it up, which saves having to pull up the toilet. (Once you've lived, why repeat the experience?)
2) A similar but different tool: I have an old plumber's snake that had the end (the coil that spreads out at the end) break off. I slightly bent out the end of the snake and sharpened the point. Several times this has saved a friend's butt by retrieving some training pants that one of his tyrants decided should be flushed along with what was in them.

welfareloser
09-21-2001, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by DarkFury
Gremlin 1 Welfareloser 0

:hihi:

i think the score is much higher than that...

i think i got it figgered out. found the remote, and the toilet is now working fine, as if whatever it was is completely gone now.

however, a closer inspection this morning revealed that a super-size box of kleenex in the bathroom, which i think i just opened a few days ago, now has only about 10 tissues rattling around in the bottom of the box.

at least he dint eat them. i'll give him that much credit.

but next time i'm out, i think i will be buying a few more gadgets for my clog-fighting "arsenal."

Jenny
09-21-2001, 08:20 AM
Hey welfare, have you thought about getting one of those toilet locks? Or putting a hook&eye on the bathroom door? That's what we had to do for Josh. Put the hook & eye up high enough on the bathroom door that he couldn't reach it even if he stood on a chair & 3 boxes. lol

Twilight
09-21-2001, 09:05 AM
Welfare said she just taught him how to flush.. i think locking him out of the bathroom would be counter productive in the toilet training scheme of things.

Markel
09-21-2001, 09:17 AM
Plus, if he is indeed a gremlin, he WILL figure out how to lock YOU in the bathroom someday. Then you are REALLY in trouble! :eek:

welfareloser
09-21-2001, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by Markel
Plus, if he is indeed a gremlin, he WILL figure out how to lock YOU in the bathroom someday. Then you are REALLY in trouble! :eek:

no locks on these doors! (whew)

the toilet lock is like a cabinet lock, with a lil plastic thingy that catches on another plastic thingy... and he already figgered out how to operate those. i just need to keep the bathroom door shut, he's not very good at turning doorknobs yet...

Kim
09-21-2001, 09:55 AM
Just wait til he can open the door...you'll not be able to pee without an audience.

welfareloser
09-21-2001, 09:59 AM
lord have mercy. as it is, he sticks his fingers under the door and wiggles em yelling "HI MOM!" then when i try to get out, he slams the door shut in my face. usually takes me several tries to get out. i guess there's something to be said for being easily amused...

Anck Su Namun
09-21-2001, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by welfareloser



at least he dint eat them. i'll give him that much credit.

hahahaha
how many kids do you have? just that one?

welfareloser
09-21-2001, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by nefertiti

hahahaha
how many kids do you have? just that one?

yeah, and i'm thinkin 'only child syndrome' is a lesser evil than two of his @$$ runnin around... i may be dense, but i know enough to quit when i'm behind... :P

Kim
09-21-2001, 10:07 AM
It must be a boy thing, because I KNOW if my son had been born first, he'd be an only child!

Anck Su Namun
09-21-2001, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by Kim
It must be a boy thing, because I KNOW if my son had been born first, he'd be an only child!
Yep when I have a kid one day, I hope it's a girl :D

welfareloser
09-21-2001, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by nefertiti

Yep when I have a kid one day, I hope it's a girl :D

i did that kind of hoping too... 50/50 shot, and good luck too you!

but my kid is actually nowhere near as "high energy" (isn't THAT a nice way of putting it) as my friend's kid, a girl. that girl was walking at 8 months, running at 9 months, and gave up naps around a year. i would be dead.

and my kid is actually like a calmed-down clone of my little sister. it's so unfair - i get stuck with her clone, and her kids are probly gonna be nice quiet little bookworms...

Kim
09-21-2001, 10:29 AM
That is how my sisters' girls are too. They never stop going. If they are ever quiet, you know mischief is happening. I remember the time they got into the vaseline. Not only did they cover the bathroom walls, but they thought each others hair would look good and shiny. Hehehe.....what a mess!

welfareloser
09-21-2001, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by Kim
That is how my sisters' girls are too. They never stop going. If they are ever quiet, you know mischief is happening. I remember the time they got into the vaseline. Not only did they cover the bathroom walls, but they thought each others hair would look good and shiny. Hehehe.....what a mess!

that's the problem with kids... you never know what kind of whacked thing they are going to think is a good idea. like my kid sniffs cameras (i think because he thinks that is what i am doing when i hold one up to my face) and licks computer screens (i have no idea) and if there is a doormat he can get his hands on, he must find a rug to shove it underneath, and goldfish crackers must be eaten off the floor, and reeses peanut butter puffs must be eaten out of a pink bowl (not the green one) and any new box that comes in the mail must be thoroughly emptied so that he can stick his head in and sniff all the corners, and the closet door must be closed if any sleep is going to happen, and the cans in the kitchen are really supposed to be lined up in the living room...

ironchef
09-21-2001, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by welfareloser
that's the problem with kids... you never know what kind of whacked thing they are going to think is a good idea. like my kid sniffs cameras (i think because he thinks that is what i am doing when i hold one up to my face) and licks computer screens (i have no idea) and if there is a doormat he can get his hands on, he must find a rug to shove it underneath, and goldfish crackers must be eaten off the floor, and reeses peanut butter puffs must be eaten out of a pink bowl (not the green one) and any new box that comes in the mail must be thoroughly emptied so that he can stick his head in and sniff all the corners, and the closet door must be closed if any sleep is going to happen, and the cans in the kitchen are really supposed to be lined up in the living room... oh lord all mighty.. i'm like blowing bubbles out my nose here :heh: :laugh: :hihi:

welfareloser
09-21-2001, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by ironchef
oh lord all mighty.. i'm like blowing bubbles out my nose here :heh: :laugh: :hihi:

oh, did i mention he does that on purpose, too? if he can't get it going on its own, he'll grab my glass of water and suck some up his nose to get things moving. not that that is as gross as his new discovery with swallowing most of a lo mein noodle before pulling it back out and doing it again...

i wish i was making this up.

Grimm
09-21-2001, 11:01 AM
My Mom had a tool to prevent toilet clogs, it worked wonders. It was a wooden paddle. She used it on our butts whenever something innapropriate was flushed.

Hey, it worked. Of course, look at me now.

revil
09-21-2001, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by welfareloser


no locks on these doors! (whew)

the toilet lock is like a cabinet lock, with a lil plastic thingy that catches on another plastic thingy... and he already figgered out how to operate those. i just need to keep the bathroom door shut, he's not very good at turning doorknobs yet...
Use magnetic key cards!

The Happy Squirrel
09-21-2001, 11:05 AM
hehe
an entire two page thread dedicaed to a toilet clog
heheh
thats awesome!

Kim
09-21-2001, 11:07 AM
Welfare, I hope he gets it all out before he is a teenager!! :D

Nette
09-21-2001, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by welfareloser


oh, did i mention he does that on purpose, too? if he can't get it going on its own, he'll grab my glass of water and suck some up his nose to get things moving. not that that is as gross as his new discovery with swallowing most of a lo mein noodle before pulling it back out and doing it again...

i wish i was making this up.

Oh my- I am going to pee my pants! That is the funniest thing I've heard! I am so happy I have girls. I have to admit there have been some strange things, but I don't think anything even compares to what you've been through! ...of course my youngest is only 1... I guess there's still that chance...

attgig
09-21-2001, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by Reverend Evil

Use magnetic key cards!

how about I/R???
http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/gadgets/3286.shtml

Kim
09-21-2001, 11:10 AM
See what you have to look forward to ironchef....in just a few short years we will be logging on to hear stories of your gremlins!;)

welfareloser
09-21-2001, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by Nette


Oh my- I am going to pee my pants! That is the funniest thing I've heard! I am so happy I have girls. I have to admit there have been some strange things, but I don't think anything even compares to what you've been through! ...of course my youngest is only 1... I guess there's still that chance...

if, by the age of one, she has never thrown a tantrum that looked like an epileptic fit and sounded like a guinea pig that just got sucked up in the vacuum cleaner, then i think you're safe...

Nette
09-21-2001, 11:12 AM
No guinea pig noises, but there is this weird growl that seems a cross between a puppy and a pigeon...

welfareloser
09-21-2001, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by att gig


how about I/R???
http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/gadgets/3286.shtml

it'd be good fr a little while, but i get the uncomfortable feeling that he would figure out a way to use it against me some day...

i mean, this is a kid who, when the blue's clues tape runs to the end, calmly ejects the tape, grabs a screwdriver, and starts to fiddle with it as if trying to take the vcr apart. i wish he spoke more english so i could ask him exactly what the poop he thinks he's doing. it reminds me of stewie on the family guy... the diabolical diapered one...

welfareloser
09-21-2001, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Nette
No guinea pig noises, but there is this weird growl that seems a cross between a puppy and a pigeon...

:heh:

Grimm
09-21-2001, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by welfareloser


it'd be good fr a little while, but i get the uncomfortable feeling that he would figure out a way to use it against me some day...

i mean, this is a kid who, when the blue's clues tape runs to the end, calmly ejects the tape, grabs a screwdriver, and starts to fiddle with it as if trying to take the vcr apart. i wish he spoke more english so i could ask him exactly what the poop he thinks he's doing. it reminds me of stewie on the family guy... the diabolical diapered one...

Maybe you shouldn't be letting him watch Family Guy any more...

Or letting him get ahold of tools.

Maybe we should start refering to him as EvilGremlin? I think I am starting to like this kid.

welfareloser
09-21-2001, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by DarkFury

Kids are just funny like that... BTW Welfare... not to get "too far" into your business (I know I am about to...but I'm gonna ask anyways), but is his "father" around? If so, maybe he can help in getting him to "respond" to not doing things he shouldn't (like flushing the toilet). My son generally listens to me more than he does to his Mom probably because my voice is heavier and authoritative. Just a thought... anyways I do know your pain!

his father exists and technically lives here. but he is a very busy grad student who isn't around much, so i'm generally on my own. i actually do the "NO NO NO!" myself (it must be hardwired into the human brain :P ) and it usually gets his attention - the problem is when he does things that he's never done before, so he doesn't know he's not supposed to. like, he knows that he isn't supposed to eat kleenex, but he's seen me flush them, so he had no clue it wasn't appropriate to flush the whole box. and he now knows that he may not draw on tables, walls, sofas, etc (each of these lessons had to be taught separately...) but he dint know that newsweek is not to be scribbled on until yesterday. and he knows that he's not allowed to put his sit n spin on the chair and climb it, but for some reason that doesn't translate into "no stacking furniture," cuz the other day he put a footstool in the chair... anyway. we'll get there. i guess. eventually. :P

Nette
09-21-2001, 11:48 AM
What is it with kids stacking things on chairs? Our other girl, 5, seems to like to have her 12" ball on our recliner, and then sit on it. This was after she painfully discovered she can't sit on her ball while on her kiddie table.

Markel
09-21-2001, 11:50 AM
OK - I can't help but add a couple of stories:

1) A daughter (probably about 18 months) wakes up from a nap (likely it was summer so she may have just been wearing a diaper) gets into my wife's lipstick in our bedroom and proceeds to smear it all over her stomach. She then comes downstairs. Of course, coming downstairs means sliding down the CARPETED stairs on her belly....
2) My wife has a friend over visiting and hears a call from the basement, "Mom, I can't get out!" She goes downstairs and finds a boy standing in the washing machine (it was full of a load of laundry). (Now you know why they put on those switches that stop the thing when the lid opens up.) Of course, he was wearing his new shoes at the time.
3) Boy pees out the mail slot. 'nuf said.

Believe me, I could go on.

ironchef
09-21-2001, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by Markel
3) Boy pees out the mail slot. 'nuf said.oh lord, that's classic!

welfareloser
09-21-2001, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by Markel

3) Boy pees out the mail slot. 'nuf said.

Believe me, I could go on.

can't ... stop ... laughing ... :heh:

Nette
09-21-2001, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Markel

3) Boy pees out the mail slot. 'nuf said.



The visual this creates is just too much for me :hihi:

Markel
09-21-2001, 12:35 PM
Believe me, Welfare, you will be writing your own stories. :D

Kim
09-21-2001, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by Markel
OK - I can't help but add a couple of stories:


3) Boy pees out the mail slot. 'nuf said.

Believe me, I could go on.


OMG...that is the funniest thing I've ever heard!!:heh:

Markel
09-21-2001, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by Nette
That is the funniest thing I've heard!

Originally posted by Kim
OMG...that is the funniest thing I've ever heard!!
Wow! Twice on the same page! Is this a some kind of a record?

It must be Friday. :)

Nette
09-21-2001, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by Markel


Wow! Twice on the same page! Is this a some kind of a record?

It must be Friday. :)

We'll, you know it was a good one. You have GOT to keep this in memory for stories later. I think this story just might beat out the one my dad told me I did as a kid... apparently I was mad at the dog, so I bit her!

jujubees
09-21-2001, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by Jenny
Put the hook & eye up high enough on the bathroom door that he couldn't reach it even if he stood on a chair & 3 boxes. lol

But Jen, how are YOU gonna reach it? :laugh: *ducks*

Jenny
09-21-2001, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by DarkFury
One thing he still does is that he goes into my "aquarium room" and goes through the cabinets getting the various foods and medicines I have in there. I definitely have to find a way of breaking him of doing that outside of putting locks on the stands.

Hey DF, would you like a plecostamus (spelling??) (ie. algae eater)? LOL Mine is quickly outgrowing my tank and I'm not sure what to do with it! lol

And juju, SHAME ON YOU! ;) Log on to aim or irc girl! :)