Jackson Unlikely to Act as Mediator

[sbp]

http://wire.ap.org/APnews/main.html?FRONTID=NATIONAL&STORYID=APIS7EQBF900

"Jesse Jackson said Friday he is leaning against accepting an invitation from Afghanistan to mediate its dispute with America, despite new overtures from the ruling Taliban militia.

Jackson said he received a letter Friday from the Afghan ambassador to Pakistan inviting him to meet with high-ranking Taliban officials.

The letter ``does not increase my inclination to go,'' said the civil rights leader and former presidential candidate.

Jackson added that he forwarded the letter to Secretary of State Colin Powell and U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan.

The letter from Mullah Abdul Salam Zaeef to Jackson read: ``In the current, critical situation, there's more need for prudence, sagacity and patience to solve issues between Afghanistan and America through peaceful means, and we welcome your mediation to meet high-ranking Afghan government officials in Afghanistan.''

Jackson said any visit to Afghanistan would be for two purposes: to ask for the release of eight Christians being held in prison there and to ask the Taliban to turn over the suspected terrorists so they could face an international court.

On Wednesday, Jackson said the Taliban had invited him to lead a ``peace delegation'' to the region, and he repeated Friday that the Taliban had reached out to him. Later, the Taliban said it was Jackson who made the first contact.

Powell has said that Jackson is free to travel but that he does not think such a trip would accomplish anything."

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He should go. It would be a great time to begin the bombing when the racial ambulance chasing shakedown artist arrives over there. http://sbp777777.homestead.com/files/facehappy.gif

[Burzhui]

Why, WHy, Why is he sticking his nose into everything.

My god this dude pisses me off sooo bad

[Grimm]

I say let him go.

Right after we pack him with explosives...:dodgy:

[Burzhui]

i agree with evil.... and if he goes without explosives i say destroy his documents so he can't get back...

[topane]

Or we could stuff his body cavities with C4 and detonate him once he gets there...

[Burzhui]

also a very good idea topane

[johnnymk]

Yeh, but with that many explosives he could end up on the planet Uranus.

[eSDee]

Originally posted by Burzhui
Why, WHy, Why is he sticking his nose into everything.

My god this dude pisses me off sooo bad

Showing your true colors again there Burzhui. Jessie is the man. If there is any way to a peaceful resolution Jessie will find it, and even if he can't atleast he might be able to help get those American "spies"(aka peace workers) out of Afghanistan. When those 3 soldiers were being held captive in Yugoslavia, Jessie remedied the situation in record time. Who cares if it underminded the "power" of the president, it accomplished the goal of freeing the men without causing incident. Case closed. The Taleban knows that Jessie might be their only salvation, but it seems at this point that Jessie knows these sum bitches need to go down too. Plus it would be an incredibly risky move for him to trust them, because as the Taleban has proven they are unorthodox and probably would do anything to gain some leverage, including taking Jessie hostage as well.

If I were Jessie I would have had a press conference, at which I would read the letter that the Taleban sent him, laughing after every sentence. The whole room would be laughing with me and finally when I finished, I would look at the cameras and pretend to wipe my ass with the letter. That, I think, would send a clear message. But I digress, that's just what I would do. :D

[welfareloser]

jesse jackson has done some amazing things in his lifetime. he's in-your-face, and he has gotten a might bit strange in his old age (i guess i'm just referring to his style of speaking...) but he's done more good than probly any of us.

even if he was the one who made first contact with the taliban - so what? yes, it's a risky thing to do, but i doubt he could make the situation any worse, and he might make it better. s'not a bad idea.

[Speedfreak]

Jesse Jackson only does the things he does for the money and publicity. Anybody who believes otherwise are just part of his flock of sheep.

[oblongmelon]

Originally posted by welfareloser
jesse jackson has done some amazing things in his lifetime.

Cheat on his wife..lie to the american public, portray himself as a psuedo-image of a holyman..etc etc.. Yeh. Great guy.

[eSDee]

Originally posted by Speedfreak
Jesse Jackson only does the things he does for the money and publicity.

Even if it's true, atleast he delivers some action instead of just BS, unlike most others who are in search of those things. No matter what an ass he has made of himself, he got those soldiers out of Yugoville, which is a lot more than anyone around here has done.


Anybody who believes otherwise are just part of his flock of sheep.

Baaa...

[eSDee]

Originally posted by oblongmelon


Cheat on his wife..lie to the american public, portray himself as a psuedo-image of a holyman..etc etc.. Yeh. Great guy.

Wait. are we talking about Jessie Jackson or every other male politician in the US? He cheated on his wife, true. But he's a man and men are weak when it comes to the booty. That's all there is to it.

Jessie Jackson is a great American, despite any indiscretions he has had. He may not be perfect but atleast he appears to have Americas best interests in mind.

[Blu]

That thread title made me thing that Michael Jackson was offering his services...:o

[Nanotech9]

JJ has done MUCH more to harm thsi country and the people threr-in, thatn to help it...

i have to agree w/ speedfreak on thsi one. :thumbup:

[Nanotech9]

oh, and, just because your a guy, doesnt mean its an excuse to go cheating on your wife. in fact, ITS YOUR DUTY, to be strong and NOT cheat on your wife. and, ESPECIALLY if he's supposed to be a "godly" man. All the more shame on him.

[eSDee]

Originally posted by Nanotech9
JJ has done MUCH more to harm thsi country and the people threr-in, thatn to help it...


Nano, how about some references?

[eSDee]

Originally posted by Nanotech9
oh, and, just because your a guy, doesnt mean its an excuse to go cheating on your wife. in fact, ITS YOUR DUTY, to be strong and NOT cheat on your wife. and, ESPECIALLY if he's supposed to be a "godly" man. All the more shame on him.

Of course youre not supposed to cheat, but the fact that 65% of marriages fail in this country, many of those due to infidelity, means that Jessie is not out on a limb here. Of those marriages that do last there has to be a small percentage that experience infidelity as well.

And just because he's a "godly" man doesn't mean that he can't make mistakes. He's human afterall; humans are imperfect.

[welfareloser]

from the pbs website:

Fall 1959-Spring 1960
Attends University of Illinois. :D

Fall 1961
Transfers to North Carolina Agricultural & Technical College.

December 31, 1962
Marries Jacqueline Lavinia Brown.

April/May/June 1963
Becomes a leader of civil rights demonstrations in Greensboro, North Carolina.

June 6, 1963
Arrested in Greensboro for "inciting to riot and disturbing the peace and dignity of the state."

May 1964
Graduates from North Carolina A & T.

September 1964
Enters the Chicago Theological Seminary.

March 1965
After watching 'Bloody Sunday' on television, Jackson is among thousands who head to Selma, Alabama. Meets Dr. King; asks him for a job.

Spring 1966
Becomes head of Chicago chapter of SCLC's Operation Breadbasket. Launches first economic boycott.

Summer 1966
Jackson among the leaders of King's open housing marches in Chicago.

Summer of 1967
Becomes the national director of Operation Breadbasket.

April 4, 1968
King assassinated in Memphis, Tennessee while there to support striking garbage workers.

June 30, 1968
Jackson becomes an ordained minister.

December 1971
Resigns from SCLC and starts Operation PUSH.

Summer 1972
Jackson and William Singer unseat the Mayor Daley delegate slate at the Democratic convention in Miami.

1977
Founds PUSH/Excel, a program to encourage inner-city kids in their schoolwork.

1979
Makes controversial visit to Middle East.

October 1983
Enters the 1984 Democratic presidential race.

December 1983
In Syria, frees downed U.S. pilot Robert Goodman.

February 1984
'Hymietown' comments reported; he apologizes.

1984
Founds the National Rainbow Coalition.

March 1988
With his victory in Michigan, Jackson takes the lead in popular votes and delegates in the 1988 Democratic presidential primary. Eventually loses to Massachusetts Governor Michael Dukakis.

1989
Moves to Washington, D.C.

September 1991
Wins the release of hundreds of foreign nationals being held in Kuwait by Saddam Hussein.

Fall 1991
Announces he will not run for President in 1992.

1996
Returns to Operation PUSH in Chicago.

February 1997
Jackson proposes an initiative to help close the learning gap between black and white children in part by emphasizing the role of parents. He seeks pledges from approximately 40,000 black parents to become more involved with their children's education and plans meetings with school officials from 45 cities.

December 1997
Jackson visits Kenya as President Clinton's "special envoy for democracy" and speaks with Kenyan president Daniel arap Moi to promote peaceful national elections.

February 1998
Jackson returns to Kenya to help defuse ethnic tensions and keep Kenya's democratic reforms on track.

April 29, 1999
During the Kosovo war, Jackson leaves for Belgrade to negotiate the release of three U.S. POW's captured on the Macedonia border while patrolling with a UN peacekeeping unit.

May 1999
Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic releases the three POW's. After his meeting with Milosevic, Jackson urges NATO officials and Milosevic to "choose the bargaining table over the battlefield."

[LPMiller]

Originally posted by Nanotech9
oh, and, just because your a guy, doesnt mean its an excuse to go cheating on your wife. in fact, ITS YOUR DUTY, to be strong and NOT cheat on your wife. and, ESPECIALLY if he's supposed to be a "godly" man. All the more shame on him.

I guess we can discount everything martin luther king has done then.

The man has brought home more 'spies' then any other; he has been highly successfull in defusing middle east situations. He's not perfect...no one is. Just like no one cares who the mayor of new york is sleeping with now, I doubt who Jackson wets his whistle with matters all that much right now.

[Nanotech9]

what does this have to do with MLK?

truthfully, JJ should have his "ordination" revoked for his immoral acts. Sorry, but thats how things are, from the little preacher in the back hills, to teh big "preacher" in the spotlight.

What i'm thinking here is that he's in it for the money, but in his greed for money and fame(?) he ends up doing some good stuff i guess. So yeah, everyone can appreciate the good stuff, but i still hate the fact that he seems to be in it for the money... A "real" ordained minister should never do something "just for da money". "earthly posessions" should be of little importance to him (other than the basics, i.e. food, shelter, etc.)

what i'm saying is the guy is fickel :)

heres a question:

we all know that if GW had an affair he would be scorned by the media, and basically kicked out of office. (heck, look what happened when just his daughters were drinking). Why? Well, cause hes the Leader of the country, and a role model, and should set the example for teh rest of us... etc.

But, when JJ has an affair, it gets mentiond for a few weeks(?) and then kinda just blows over. But hey, Hes supposed to be a role model, a religious leader, and as such should be setting the example for us all... Humm. Only difference is he ain't a "conservative", so he doesn't / wouldnt get as much negative publicity as someone else would.

Again, not to say all his "spy" extractiosn or whatever they're called aren't a good thing. I'm sure the people he helped appreciate it very much.

[welfareloser]

dude... NOTHING happened when bush's daughters were caught drankin. nothing! people laughed it off. it was so NOT a scandal. they got thumbs up from cosmo, newsweek, and a coupla other magazines that i forget in my three-beer state.

he is goofy. you'd have to be goofy to want to be a public figure. better him than me. he cares. he's trying to do good things. he often succeeds.

he's a good guy. he's not perfect. he's a better man than me. i salute him.

whaddaya mean, "in it for the money?" who's payin him for what?

and yeah, role models are important... and he's better than most, and striving to be better than he is. that's all you can ask. nobody's perfect. you can't demand better. there isn't better. you wnat to kick him out of his "position" who d'you think can take his place? and if you can think of someone better, d'you really think that person would still be better after a few years of the stress of his position? they'd either quit or go insane.

i need another beer.

[Speedfreak]

Originally posted by EsDeeLoco
Baaa...

Ignorance is a bad defense.



Originally posted by EsDeeLoco
Wait. are we talking about Jessie Jackson or every other male politician in the US? He cheated on his wife, true. But he's a man and men are weak when it comes to the booty. That's all there is to it.

Please don't tell me that makes it ok. If not, then there should be no explanation defending it. There are alot of rapists out there too.

[eSDee]

Originally posted by Speedfreak


Ignorance is a bad defense.


Hmmm that really doesn't surprise me coming from you Speedfreak. Your elitist position has been made clear in previous threads. I'm not gonna get into name calling with you, however I think you if anyone is playing ignorant, it is you. The fact that Jessie has made a positive impact by being directly involved with the freeing of American captives makes him a true patriot. The fact that you mention that he is only in it "for the money" without providing any proof, makes you a follower of those who disparage Jessie just because his beliefs are different from their own. If you wanna find ignorant, don't look any further than your bathroom mirror.




Please don't tell me that makes it ok. If not, then there should be no explanation defending it. There are alot of rapists out there too.

There's some solid logic.

Perhaps I did oversimplify by saying that men are weak, however my point was not that it is right or not, but that many men are guilty of marital infidelity. That doesn't excuse his actions, but it also doesn't single him out either.