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The Happy Squirrel
10-05-2001, 07:08 AM
Hey all,
I just wanted to say good bye.

After much thought and consideration, I have decided to leave school. It no longer holds any appeal to me.
I will be back in the forums sometime but i dont know when. By leaveing school behind I also leave behind my net connection and all of you. Till I talk to ya again. Goodbye
-THS
peace

welfareloser
10-05-2001, 07:10 AM
good luck, and hope to see you soon! give us an update when life calms down a bit.:neartears :wavey:

Nanotech9
10-05-2001, 07:17 AM
what are you gonna do Instead of going to school?

oblongmelon
10-05-2001, 07:34 AM
Maybe you just need to take courses you ENJOY...sheesh get your ass back in school squirrel. Or you wont learn how to find your nuts. :)

(omg I'm late for work!)

The Happy Squirrel
10-05-2001, 07:39 AM
okay this may sound concieted and bold but whatever
all the stuff find intresting at this point in my life i already know most everything about it

<methinks a good idea would be microsoft cert. tests>

o well i apprecaite your concerns
tahnk you

Markel
10-05-2001, 07:44 AM
I don't know how far you are from finishing your degree, but don't burn any bridges. You might want to consider just taking a class or two at a time to finish it up. Although experience and certification can open some doors, lack of a degree can close many others.

Best wishes to you, THS.

chrissy
10-05-2001, 08:22 AM
THS, you know where we are at if you ever need anything. Come back and see us as soon as you can.



:kiss:

Take care of yourself and the rest will fall in place.

sho.gun
10-05-2001, 08:41 AM
Take care squirrel, i hope all turns out well for you, check back in here often eh?

Burzhui
10-05-2001, 08:53 AM
Dude that sucks... personally i wish you luck and prosperity but don't support your decision... but then again you might learn better outside of school. SO good luck :D

Jihforce
10-05-2001, 09:13 AM
MS certification will get you nowhere. Why? Cuz anyone can get one nowadays. Besides, when is the last time you checked what the market was for IT jobs?? Anyhow, good luck finding a job without a degree.
Not to bash you on your decision, but leaving school because its "uninteresting" is a pretty poor excuse. It doesn't take guts to quit school, it takes guts to stay in school.

welfareloser
10-05-2001, 09:15 AM
naw, it can take guts to quit, too. a lot of ppl stay in school because they are sheep who let the momentum carry them, or they are scared of the riskes of wandering about degreeless... maybe quitting is stupid, i dunno, but don't call him a coward.

but DO look around, do the research, figger out what kinda job you want, what your chances are of getting one... know what you are walking into.

Grimm
10-05-2001, 09:33 AM
THS,
Once you quit school you will find it hard to get back into the routine later. Please reconsider your decision. Employers look at a degree as proof that you can finish something you started. It opens doors for you if you have one. I strongly recommend against quitting.
My dad never finished his degree. He is a genius. He plays chess at a senior master level with no formal training. He learned C+ in two weeks. He solves problems by himself in weeks that teams of talented people couldn't solve in years. When he applied at a major computer company he received 7 offers!!! from different departments. But they all offered him about 60% to 70% of the pay they would offer to a college graduate. This is after he had shown he could out do the teams of people that were making much more the he was.
He was not even considered for many positions in other companies because he never finished his degree.
My dad is one incredible doer. If you can achieve like he can you will be doing as well as you would have at 2 years with a degree after proving yourself for 10. Save yourself the eight years and finish your degree.

welfareloser
10-05-2001, 09:39 AM
good point. my mom is an accountant. she has no college. she has never made squat. she is now 49 and finally vp of a very small company, getting the recognition and (almost) the pay she deserves. she is extremely talented and bright, but dint get poop without the degree for the first 30 years of working.

if you can stand it, a degree is a good thing to have. if you're quitting because you are depressed, feeling directionless, feeling that school is pointless - at least finish out the semester, maybe, take a leave of absence, see a counsellor. but if you're quitting to follow a dream, or because you have a better plan... you could fail, but risks are worth it even if you do fail. quit!

Jihforce
10-05-2001, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by evilcyclops
THS,
If you can achieve like he can you will be doing as well as you would have at 2 years with a degree after proving yourself for 10. Save yourself the eight years and finish your degree.
Agreed. Getting school degrees opens up a lot of doors for you. I know many employers nowadays will not employ people without degrees. Certifications, as I mentioned before are not worth as much as you'd think. So think twice, maybe even three times.

styleee
10-05-2001, 02:31 PM
take it from me...

it sucks to be 24 when all of my classmates are 18-20. and i know that sounds not too bad, but if i another person asks me why i don't dorm i'm going to scream.

but, on the otherside, i've done a bunch of cool things that i prolly wouldn't have been able to do if i had been in school... actually, that isn't true, all the cool things i did while i was still in school. i just did them during breaks. the only thing i had more of was money. and all my friends are cheap so its not like i ever did anything extravengent like go to Rio de Janerio. i just spent it all on rent. :)

and work sucks. stay in school.

El Scorcho
10-05-2001, 10:06 PM
well whatever your decision is squirrel...

its nice havin you round the boards so hope to see ya round:)

K2
10-05-2001, 10:08 PM
have fun.. there were some good times with ya :)

Sir_Froggy
10-05-2001, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by The Happy Squirrel
Hey all,
I just wanted to say good bye.

After much thought and consideration, I have decided to leave school. It no longer holds any appeal to me.
I will be back in the forums sometime but i dont know when. By leaveing school behind I also leave behind my net connection and all of you. Till I talk to ya again. Goodbye
-THS
peace

b-b-b-but u just came back from wherever u were over summer...*sigh* well i hope u do good in wutever u do =)

well hope u can visit lotsa cuz i just started to know u and all...but bye bye forums won't be as happy without The Happy Squirrel


well buy by

BrewMaster
10-05-2001, 11:12 PM
Good luck THS. I hope you remain Happy in your new pursuits.

El Scorcho
10-05-2001, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by Sir_Froggy


well buy by

dude you just slaughtered all three forms of by, bye, and buy:)

BrewMaster
10-05-2001, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by El Scorcho


dude you just slaughtered all three forms of by, bye, and buy:)

hehe:heh:

The Happy Squirrel
10-06-2001, 10:39 AM
thank you all for you concern
i already ahve a nice job linned up in home theater work
and if i do decide to accpet this job and move then i will ahve a calbe net connect so i might be back after all
HEHE'

dont know whats going on for sure yet but i know this is the right moveat this point

for all you who are wondering i am 2 yrs away from finishing my degree
this is my th year in college but i lost some credits by semseter conversion, chaging majors <only once> nad changing schools

o well

i will most liekly be bowing out on tuesday or wendsday

i will miss youi all and untill then i bid you ado

fakesurfers
10-06-2001, 03:19 PM
I have to strongly disagree with some of the responses above. A college degree is not a prequisite for most technical jobs. It is highly important, though, for English major types and Social workers and such, because there is no way to weed out the ones that do not have the skills. In IT, it takes about 10 minutes to spot the pretenders (trust me, I do the hiring). A degree just tells me that your probably lack imagination and your parents are upper-middle class.

Anck Su Namun
10-06-2001, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by fakesurfers
A degree just tells me that your probably lack imagination

Lack imagination? I have plenty of imagination. I am just lucky enough to have parents that can afford to send me to college. Yea you can get a job w/o a degree, but a lot of the jobs I see that I want (web development, database management) require a bachelor's. People with college degrees generally make more money. You can't get a $50,000+ job with just a high school diploma or just training from what I have seen.



Originally posted by fakesurfers
and your parents are upper-middle class.

and that's a bad thing?

hapoo
10-06-2001, 04:25 PM
DU DU DU Anotherone bites the dust...

yeah, i hate school as well... Good luck THS

Sir_Froggy
10-06-2001, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by El Scorcho


dude you just slaughtered all three forms of by, bye, and buy:)

wut's ur point?
heh buy by bye

the N*Sync song :P

(wow hapoo posted!)

ok well just decided to say buy by again....hope to see u soon on the forums again

welfareloser
10-07-2001, 03:42 AM
Originally posted by nefertiti


Lack imagination? I have plenty of imagination. I am just lucky enough to have parents that can afford to send me to college. Yea you can get a job w/o a degree, but a lot of the jobs I see that I want (web development, database management) require a bachelor's. People with college degrees generally make more money. You can't get a $50,000+ job with just a high school diploma or just training from what I have seen.

and that's a bad thing?

kinda missing the point... if you can succeed WITHOUT the degree, you prove a lot of positive qualities, including imagination. and upper-middle-class parents are a KNOWN thing, a defining factor, a common thing... not a bad thing unless you want someone uncommon.

Anck Su Namun
10-07-2001, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by welfareloser


kinda missing the point... if you can succeed WITHOUT the degree, you prove a lot of positive qualities, including imagination. and upper-middle-class parents are a KNOWN thing, a defining factor, a common thing... not a bad thing unless you want someone uncommon.

Yea I am not saying you can't succeed without a degree, but I don't think if you do you have "more imagination" than someone who has a degree. Just seems like a nonsensical statement to me. Also, a lot of people who go to college don't have middle class parents. And even if you do there is nothing wrong with that. I hope I will make enough money to send my kid(s) to school one day. But anyway, a lot of people also pay for it themselves, take out loans, get financial aid, etc. A lot of the people I know who are going to get their degrees are my mom's age and older.
And yes there are some exceptions, but people who have degrees generally make more money then those who do not. If that weren't true, I and a lot of other people would stop suffering :P and would drop out of college.

Markel
10-07-2001, 08:41 AM
I have been in the position of screening resumes of potential candidates (for software engineering positions) and believe me, lack of a degree can be a major obstacle.

fakesurfers
10-07-2001, 12:07 PM
As an additional point, not everyone's life revolves around how much money they make (again with the bourgeois attitudes). Lots of people only seek enough to be comfortable, and find their fulfillment from other things.