Well this is very nifty

[Burzhui]

MERCURY TO BRING BACK MARAUDER AS A 2003 MODEL




http://www.mercuryvehicles.com/vehicles/marauder/images/marauder-template-marauder-.jpg
http://www.velocityjrnl.com/jrnl/2003/images/mc2003marauder01.jpg


CHICAGO, Feb. 8, 2001 -- Mercury confirms today at the Chicago Auto Show that it will bring back the Marauder, an iconic vehicle from the brand's past, in the form of a four-door, five-passenger performance sedan powered by a V-8 engine expected to produce more than 300 horsepower. The Marauder is expected to reach Lincoln Mercury showrooms in the early summer of 2002 as a 2003 model.

"Mercury Marauder doesn't take a lot of explaining. It's fast, it's black and it looks cool," says Ben Gibert, director of Mercury vehicles.
Based on a concept vehicle at the 1998 Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) show, the production Mercury Marauder will have impressive performance credentials:

• 4.6-liter dual overhead cam V-8 engine producing more than 300 horsepower and 300 foot-pounds of torque; true dual exhaust
• Four-speed automatic transmission with a high stall speed torque converter and 3.55 rear axle with limited-slip differential
• Performance suspension; 18-inch forged aluminum alloy wheels shod with high performance all-season tires (P235/50ZR18 front and P245/55ZR18 rear); winged Mercury god's head logo embossed in the wheel center caps
• A 140-mph speedometer, 7,000-rpm tachometer, temperature and oil pressure gauges and voltmeter
• Leather-trimmed cabin; five-passenger seating with winged Mercury god's head embossed in the seat backs and "Marauder" embroidered in the floor mats; center console with floor-mounted shifter
• Monochromatic exterior design with body surfaces finished in gloss black paint; dark-tinted headlamp and tail lamp bezels; "Marauder" embossed in the rear fascia and fog lamps integrated into the front fascia

Full technical specifications, pricing, ordering information and an on-sale date will be released closer to production.

"The Mercury Marauder will be part of the household fleet, so power is not the customer's only concern. It must have functionality to accommodate everyday needs," Marauder Brand Manager Tony Picarello said. "Marauder is a rebel with a cause. It is power and substance."

"The new Marauder will make Mercury a stronger brand, but its impact will go beyond the buzz or a single sale," says Jennifer Moneagle, Mercury group brand manager. "Mercury customers by definition are individuals who do not follow the crowd, and the Marauder's performance and bold styling will really let it stand apart from everyday vehicles.

"Most Marauder customers will be well-educated and relatively affluent. Many will be married with children at home, and most will probably own two or more vehicles," she adds.


Marauder History

The first Mercury Marauder was introduced at the dawn of the muscle car era as a 1963 ½ model, and was designed to capitalize on the success of the Bill Stroppe-prepared Mercurys on stock car tracks around the country. The "slantback" two-door hardtop was built on a 120-inch wheelbase and measured almost 18-feet in length.

Mercurys in Marauder trim were offered with engines ranging from a comparatively mild 390-cubic inch OHV V-8 with two-barrel carburetor to a considerably more robust 406-cubic inch V-8 that produced 405 horsepower (gross). The now legendary Parnelli Jones piloted a 406-powered Marauder to victory at the Pike's Peak Hill Climb on July 4, 1963 and set a new stock car record in the process.

One of the most desirable of the early Mercury Marauders was the 1964 model equipped with the 427-cubic inch "Super Marauder" V-8. This engine, which pumped out a whopping 425-horsepower (gross), boasted all of the requisite 1960s-era technology for performance engines, including twin four-barrel carburetors, high-compression 11.5:1 pistons and cross-bolted main bearing caps.

After 1965, the Marauder name was not used again, until Mercury introduced a new full-size platform in 1969. The Mercury Marauder introduced that year was described by a Mercury executive as "the car for individuals who want strong road performance with the full measure of luxury that comes with full-size automobiles."


Full-size was an apt description of the 1969 Mercury Marauder and top-of-the-line Marauder X-100, which rode on 121-inch wheelbases and measured slightly more than 219 inches in length (about four inches longer than the 1964 models). Both models featured a tunnel-back design with the trailing edges of the rear roof pillars flowing down and extending to the rear. A special two-tone paint option featured the entire tunnel-back area of the car with a matte finish in a color to compliment the main body color.

The heart of the X-100, the higher performance and more-ornately trimmed version, was an all-new 429 cubic-inch V-8 engine rated at 360 horsepower (gross). Road testers clocked the X-100 at 0-to-60 mph in eight seconds and reported a top speed of 125 mph. The five-passenger Marauder featured a 390 cubic-inch V-8 engine and a fresh new design. With these two models, Marauder became an official Mercury nameplate.

Mercury, based in Irvine, Calif., markets the full line of Mercury vehicles, including Cougar, Sable, Grand Marquis, Mountaineer and Villager.

[aglio412]

looks like a glorified crown victoria to me...

but then again, who am i to talk...i'm hooked on euro cars.

[Burzhui]

Originally posted by aglio412
looks like a glorified crown victoria to me...

but then again, who am i to talk...i'm hooked on euro cars.

Dude.. you freak:P

This is a grand marquees body with a sweet ass engine and a police suspension, plus a true dual exhaust... this be a sweet ride

[Jihforce]

Still looks ugly. :P

[aglio412]

Originally posted by Burzhui


Dude.. you freak:P

This is a grand marquees body with a sweet ass engine and a police suspension, plus a true dual exhaust... this be a sweet ride

the thing is a tank...i wouldn't suprised if my grandma went out and bought one.

why do you think it has the bigass engine and dual exhaust and police suspension? it's a friggin tank...needs all the power it can get...

a BMW M3 would destroy that thing.

[Burzhui]

Dude you got a cool grandma then.... me and her are gonna rule the streets in out marauders


And yes dark fury what they did to our cars is a horrible thing, the new cougars are :puke: and the new thunderbirds are... i don't even know what the hell that's supposed to be

[Burzhui]

i wonder what the price will be on these things

[Burzhui]

Originally posted by DarkFury


yeah.. it still honks me off that they castrated our cars. That was part of the reason that my "new" truck is a DODGE! Go Mopar!

yea i would never get a new cougar... i wonder why don't they make Mustang cobra's anymore... the new mustangs seems pretty nice though

[pennypinch]

I think it looks dope. Throw some dubs on there, a hot system, and that'd be a fine cruising vehicle.

Although certainly nothing compared to Denzel's ride in Training Day. Does anyone know what the hell that thing is, because it's pimp and fu*k. It looks like its got custom fenders, but still...HOT DAMN!

I need to put switches in my ride. That is what that movie taught me.

[Burzhui]

what the hell are switches

[aglio412]

Originally posted by DarkFury


Hee hee.. that would be one "badassed" Grandma huh?

Yeah... I agree it was a tank, but do you think the V8 Imapala SS was a tank too? If so...then I guess you just like "smaller cars".

BTW, how much does a new BMW M3 cost? Also... for a car this size, you can do alot of things that you just can't do with a smaller vehicle... which is the main reason I don't "own" a smaller vehicle.

well my grandma is a tough cookie...she used to run with hell's angels...hehehehe

nah, i'm just being difficult...to each is own, that's always what i say. and i do like smaller cars...and i'll admit, it's nice to see some new american muscle.

i think the new M3s go for close to 55k after tax and options, so i'm sure this pup would be significantly cheaper.

so, don't take my bashing personally...i'm just inciting some conversation...and trying to impose my preferences upon all of y'all...heehehehe

oh and burzhui, switches are used to activate the hydraulics. awww yeah, sh*t got hops!

[Burzhui]

ohhh thanks a lot man

I think the whole hydrolic **** where the car jumps up and down is soo gay, it's tooo tacky if you ask me.

Now if you put some gas shocks and strats on that mudda, where you get to control how low the ride is.... that would be hot

[johnnymk]

It's going to be one more FLOP from Ford. It has no personality whatsoever, just another bland look-alike vehicle that no one will get excited about. At least Bob Lutz (who worked at Chrysler) may revitalize GM in the not too distant future.

[Burzhui]

Originally posted by johnnymk
It's going to be one more FLOP from Ford. It has no personality whatsoever, just another bland look-alike vehicle that no one will get excited about. At least Bob Lutz (who worked at Chrysler) may revitalize GM in the not too distant future.


i'm excited:D

[Burzhui]

i wonder how much $$$ it will be for a fully loaded

[Jihforce]

Originally posted by DarkFury


Well it took awhile for the "old" V8 Impala SS to grow on me too.. I didn't like the standard Impalas all that much, but the SS version was "badassed".

There's alot you could do with this car, however I already know that Ford Motor Company (i.e. Mercury) is not really gonna exploit this vehicle to the fullest... Personally, I still think it is a "battleship", but hey... if you gotta drive a battleship, then go for the one with the big engine and nice wheels!

Just look what they did to my precious T'Bird and Burzhui's Cougar! Injustice I tell ya!

Yeah, I hear ya. I don't really know where Ford gets their designers from. Their designs get uglier and uglier every year. I don't doubt that this car has a lot to offer. But an ugly car, is an ugly car. Having a V8 under the hood doesn't make the car any prettier.
As far as M3s go, Its a cool car, but I still can't justify forking out 55k for a compact car with 2 doors. I'd rather get a vette and have 10k or so to insure it :P

[Burzhui]

Originally posted by Jihforce


Yeah, I hear ya. I don't really know where Ford gets their designers from. Their designs get uglier and uglier every year. I don't doubt that this car has a lot to offer. But an ugly car, is an ugly car. Having a V8 under the hood doesn't make the car any prettier.
As far as M3s go, Its a cool car, but I still can't justify forking out 55k for a compact car with 2 doors. I'd rather get a vette and have 10k or so to insure it :P

umm dude a fully loaded vet Z06 is 56 grand :)
Plus a vet is not practical, i love it but you just can't fit anything into it

[Jihforce]

Originally posted by Burzhui


umm dude a fully loaded vet Z06 is 56 grand :)
Plus a vet is not practical, i love it but you just can't fit anything into it

Yeah I know, but who said anything about a fully loaded Z06 Vette? heehee. Besides, i gots me a hookup at a Chevy dealership...Muhaahaahahaha

[Burzhui]

Originally posted by Jihforce


Yeah I know, but who said anything about a fully loaded Z06 Vette? heehee. Besides, i gots me a hookup at a Chevy dealership...Muhaahaahahaha

Uhh so i see... but it makes no sense not to buy a Z06 if you are getting a corvette but a hookup is good

[Burzhui]

Originally posted by DarkFury


That's the 2 seater I would buy if I had 60 grand burning a hole in my pocket... Either that or maybe a Viper.


yea... a 2003 viper such a beauty

http://www.angelfire.com/nm/viperpage/viper3.jpg http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/01images/03viper_int.jpg http://www.car-truck.com/image/chryed/feature/03vip14.jpg

[speedracer120]

Oh how I wish I wish I wish...

The Maurader is one wolf in sheep's clothing. That's what I like. Nothing flashy, but something that'll blow away the unaware.

[Burzhui]

Originally posted by speedracer120
Oh how I wish I wish I wish...

The Maurader is one wolf in sheep's clothing. That's what I like. Nothing flashy, but something that'll blow away the unaware.

hell yea it will rip the top lair off any asphault.... yea baby yea:D

[johnnymk]

Wow, they have really refined the lines of the new Viper. I like it a lot.
Now if Lutz could just do something to the Vette, which is hideous!What a poor excuse for an American icon (stylewise)!

[pennypinch]

You like it? I get the feeling the old one's going to skyrocket in value as soon as they start making the new one.

From the top there, it looks like a swollen S2000. And the interior, while an improvement over the last one (which was a serious pain in the ass to ride in), looks kind of cheap (what's with the acres of plastic?).

I see where they were trying to go, but it doesn't look like they went far enough outside, and went totally the wrong way inside.

[Jihforce]

wow, i'm amazed that so many of you have test driven a Viper since you all know its so uncomfortable to ride in.

[Burzhui]

Originally posted by Jihforce
wow, i'm amazed that so many of you have test driven a Viper since you all know its so uncomfortable to ride in.

How is it uncomfortable may i ask?
It's sports seating, nice lumbar support....

[pennypinch]

Originally posted by Jihforce
wow, i'm amazed that so many of you have test driven a Viper since you all know its so uncomfortable to ride in.
I was talking about the last gen Viper.

[Jihforce]

Originally posted by pennypinch

I was talking about the last gen Viper.

So am. I just find it interesting that a lot of you guys have driven a Viper cuz I keep hearing how its uncomfortable and stuff. I mean yeah, I read in Car and Drive that its, but that's the extent of my experience.

[pennypinch]

Originally posted by Jihforce


So am. I just find it interesting that a lot of you guys have driven a Viper cuz I keep hearing how its uncomfortable and stuff. I mean yeah, I read in Car and Drive that its, but that's the extent of my experience.
Well, it's basically been the same car for, what, the last 8 years? That's a lot of time to get just one ride in one.

[attgig]

well, if my voice counts this far down the thread.....

I like it :)

I'm with DF, and all the other tank lovers out there.... this thing is phat...
that impalla SS...DANG that thang is awesome...

there are people who like these cars, and just because it doesn't come in a cute little package a la z3 or japanese import sports cars (no offense apex), it don't mean these things will die and fail...

as for ford designers generally...they're actually pretty good i think....they always 'try' to push the envelope with their designs, and so i give them props for that...
but since their flop of the 'new' taurus a few years back(back around 6 years ago?)...they've conservatised it (made it conservative), and it looks like a good, decent car.

as for their success with those newer designs...well, that's another story..
(oh, and DF, I actually like the designs of their cougar and tbirds..the only downside is that a v8 will never fit into that cougar...:()


as for bad designers...how about that pontiac aztec..
or the new concept cars for Caddy's...those look rediculous...

[attgig]

Originally posted by DarkFury
Ummmm... actually, that "new Cougar" design ain't nuttin' but the leftovers from where the "Probe" left off... more or less it's replacement.

I guess those contracts with Mazda for the 626 must've expired huh?

did not know that it was probe redesigned....
well, the 'contracts' with mazda would prolly mean less when ford has controlling stock of Mazda :)
but still, they redesigned it well...IMO



As far as the new T'Bird goes... Oh yeah, lose the backseat, add a convertible top, re-style it to a "50s" look with a "2000" price tag and you got it... Harumph!

Personally, I wouldn't give 'em the $35K they are askin' for that thang... My T'Bird (without the "extras") listed for $21K back in 1996, but this new monstrosity just takes the cake. If I had $35K to spend, I would rather have that Lincoln LS (which is almost the same as the 'Bird, but more "functional") or buy a "regular" Vette, which probably is a better 2 seater anyway....


What they did with the Tbird was the only road they could go..
competing with the z3/vette/other 2 seater sports cars....

Tbird's history was not a small dinky sports car such as them celicas & eclipses....
nor was it a sporty family sedan....which it became when you bought it....
It was a hot rod...and The 3.9L, 32-valve V-8 engine, 252 horsepower and 261 lb.-ft. of torque makes it a hot rod again....
i think they went back to the roots of the tbird before it became a full fledged family car.....and made it right...
yeah it's expensive...i hate that..but still...that's what a tbird truly is.

[Blu]

Originally posted by Burzhui


hell yea it will rip the top lair off any asphault.... yea baby yea:D


Oh how I wish I wish I wish...

The Maurader is one wolf in sheep's clothing. That's what I like. Nothing flashy, but something that'll blow away the unaware.


Erm, no. 0-60 in 8 seconds isn't gonna rip anything. The Maurader is too little too late to compete with anything but the average American sedan. If you're looking for shear numbers for $$, run out and get a Mustang or a Camaro. I bet this dealie runs in the 35's. And for that kind of dough, you can get a GT that weighs less. Geez, my car can kick the Maurader's booty six ways from Sunday, and it's "just" a VW. For American companies to compete, they have to get with the program. Putting big bulky engines in big bulky cars isn't gonna be competitive. The only people they are drawing are those that already own the pseudo-sport sedans like Grand Prix's. They aren't going to attract the younger market share they are missing by putting out big, expensive gas guzzlers.

TBG

[pennypinch]

Originally posted by TheBluGuy





Erm, no. 0-60 in 8 seconds isn't gonna rip anything. The Maurader is too little too late to compete with anything but the average American sedan. If you're looking for shear numbers for $$, run out and get a Mustang or a Camaro. I bet this dealie runs in the 35's. And for that kind of dough, you can get a GT that weighs less. Geez, my car can kick the Maurader's booty six ways from Sunday, and it's "just" a VW. For American companies to compete, they have to get with the program. Putting big bulky engines in big bulky cars isn't gonna be competitive. The only people they are drawing are those that already own the pseudo-sport sedans like Grand Prix's. They aren't going to attract the younger market share they are missing by putting out big, expensive gas guzzlers.

TBG

Gee, here I was thinking NASCAR was the fastest growing sport in America.

I sort of disagree. There isn't an import car with a serious engine under, say, $30K. The Q45 is the closest to the old-time American cars, and it runs, what $65K?

I'm looking at getting a third-gen Monte Carlo, strictly for cruising purposes. Look at it this way: what import sports coupe is (most likely) as comfortable or spacious as this Marauder?

Which is why I think the Japanese and, to a lesser extent, the Europeans are getting their arses kicked in the SUV/Truck markets. People here like big engines. They like lots of power. They like something spacious, and with gas prices still pretty damned low, they don't mind if it isn't a gas guzzler.

Let's not forget that the single thing that people bitched and whined about most about the Accord back in the day was that it had a wussy engine.

[attgig]

Originally posted by pennypinch
Which is why I think the Japanese and, to a lesser extent, the Europeans are getting their arses kicked in the SUV/Truck markets. People here like big engines. They like lots of power. They like something spacious, and with gas prices still pretty damned low, they don't mind if it isn't a gas guzzler.


Nissan's definitely headed in the right track w/ altima's engine...

[aglio412]

Originally posted by TheBluGuy

Geez, my car can kick the Maurader's booty six ways from Sunday, and it's "just" a VW.
TBG

hey TBG...what kind of dub are you driving? i'm guessing a modded VR6...

i'm driving a 1999 A3 Jetta (2.slow)...still waiting on the 180hp 1.8t's to hit US shores...then it's GTi time.

nice to see another veedubber in the house

[pennypinch]

Originally posted by attgig


Nissan's definitely headed in the right track w/ altima's engine... Nissan's headed in the right direction, philosophy-wise, but they're pricing themselves out of the market. I don't see them being able to survive at those prices unless they can figure out how to get the Z on the road.

[Blu]

Originally posted by pennypinch


Gee, here I was thinking NASCAR was the fastest growing sport in America.

I sort of disagree. There isn't an import car with a serious engine under, say, $30K. The Q45 is the closest to the old-time American cars, and it runs, what $65K?

I'm looking at getting a third-gen Monte Carlo, strictly for cruising purposes. Look at it this way: what import sports coupe is (most likely) as comfortable or spacious as this Marauder?

Which is why I think the Japanese and, to a lesser extent, the Europeans are getting their arses kicked in the SUV/Truck markets. People here like big engines. They like lots of power. They like something spacious, and with gas prices still pretty damned low, they don't mind if it isn't a gas guzzler.

Let's not forget that the single thing that people bitched and whined about most about the Accord back in the day was that it had a wussy engine.

A great import in the expect price range is an Acura TL Type-S. It's 260hp isn't as much as the Maurader, but it spanks it stat wise. Also, look at the Maxima for that kind of performance.

TBG

[Blu]

Originally posted by aglio412


hey TBG...what kind of dub are you driving? i'm guessing a modded VR6...

i'm driving a 1999 A3 Jetta (2.slow)...still waiting on the 180hp 1.8t's to hit US shores...then it's GTi time.

nice to see another veedubber in the house

Just a 99.5 GTI VR6. No mods, but it's still more than a full second faster to 60 than this behemoth.

And when the W8 Passat comes out, it'll eat this car for lunch.

TBG

[pennypinch]

Originally posted by TheBluGuy


A great import in the expect price range is an Acura TL Type-S. It's 260hp isn't as much as the Maurader, but it spanks it stat wise. Also, look at the Maxima for that kind of performance.

TBG
I'm really clueless here, but aren't the big american boys rear drive? I mean, they have the transmission tunnel through the cabin, leading me to believe that's the case, but...

I know the Maxima and Acura are both front-wheel drive as well as V6's.

I think the cool thing about American cars is this: that we know so much about them. The tech is not new (and maybe that's part of the problem), but you can jack the horsies up so high for a relatively small amount of money. At the other end of the spectrum, you have the computer-controlled gee-whizardry of some of these sporty sedans like the Acura, Maxima and Caddy STS.

I find it pretty sad that the hot rod era has devolved (yes, that's right, devolved) into the Fast and the Furious scene.

[aglio412]

Originally posted by TheBluGuy


Just a 99.5 GTI VR6. No mods, but it's still more than a full second faster to 60 than this behemoth.

And when the W8 Passat comes out, it'll eat this car for lunch.

TBG

ahhh the W8...gonna be a nasty engine

i can't wait for the 180hp 1.8t...same engine as the TT and A4, can mod that thing to over 250-300hp w/ very little work.

[aglio412]

Originally posted by pennypinch

I'm really clueless here, but aren't the big american boys rear drive? I mean, they have the transmission tunnel through the cabin, leading me to believe that's the case, but...

I know the Maxima and Acura are both front-wheel drive as well as V6's.

I think the cool thing about American cars is this: that we know so much about them. The tech is not new (and maybe that's part of the problem), but you can jack the horsies up so high for a relatively small amount of money. At the other end of the spectrum, you have the computer-controlled gee-whizardry of some of these sporty sedans like the Acura, Maxima and Caddy STS.

I find it pretty sad that the hot rod era has devolved (yes, that's right, devolved) into the Fast and the Furious scene.

that's like saying you miss the good old days of room sized super computers...

don't get me wrong...american muscle...and old school hot rods still get me moist...but it's technology man.

today it's possible to acieve the HP out of a 6cyl turbo that was only achievable from a big block V8...hell, Supras can push close to 1000 horses with the right work.

we live in a technological age...of course the autos today will reflect that. even the american autos...i'm sure this mercury tank has alot of technological intricacies as well.

i wouldn't call it devolution...this is evolution...there's just alot of people longing for the good old days.

my uncle has a 60's camaro SS, that thing flies...and i would love to own it...but i'm definitely an admirer and fan of modern technology.

[aglio412]

Originally posted by DarkFury
Thing is... you almost NEVER see the V8s modded out to their max stock unless you are dealing with a "specialty car" (i.e. Corvette, Camaro, Firebird, or Mustang)...

The power to weight ratio is what puts the Maurader at a great disadvantage... however for those of you who firmly believe in "V6 Power" being better... what happens when you put twin turbos on a V8 like on a Hennessey 'Vette... You get you dayuum doors blown off... that's what.

But for the most part, the V8s don't get modded from stock quite as much as those ricers and with their stock power to weight advantage, they just scream (literally). Either way, I figure if there were cars of equal size, one with a suped up V6 and the other with a modded V8...do you actually think the V6 is gonna win?

Personally, I think people are comparing apples to oranges here. The Marauder is not going to be a "street rocket", but still for a vehicle as big as it is (you must never have seen the true size of a Mercury Grand Marquis)... it is pretty fierce. If you ever drove a "boat" you would understand.

fury, i hear ya...i may have been a little pro-V6 in that reply. i know a turbo viper exists...now that thing...daaaayyyyyyemmm

i guess i'm tryin to say that i admire those who push things to the limit...gettin 400-500hp out of a 4cyl excites me alot more than someone getting an extra 20 out of a v8...

but man oh man...put the work and loot into making a vette fly (see hennessey) and you got allllll of my attention.

[johnnymk]

1000 HP out of a 6?? I seriously doubt it, except for maybe a pure drag car> I am not sure what kind of HP that the mid Eighty Regals had, fully prepared by Roy Ingersoll, but I don't think that it ever approached 1000 HP. And I think we've been through the limitations of front wheel drive cars before.
Another thing... many transmissions and rear axles can not take the added stress of a 400-500 HP engine/ Thats one of the reasons that some vehicles are available only with manual transmissions.
I have a friend who owns a highly modified 88 Mustang 302. It probably has 350-370 HP and he is very concerned about the durability of his 5 speed trans. Supposedly, it's only good for up to 350 ft. lbs. of torque.

[aglio412]

http://www.suprastore.com/800hpkitcom.html

here's one with 1000hp...non drag car

http://203.97.216.253/mkiv/download/junsupra.mpeg

http://www.suprastore.com/saadsaad1019.html

it's doable....

alot of dough...but doable

[johnnymk]

OK , I checked out two of the sites... I can't download MPEGs on my computer for some reason. The one mod that they offer says that you can get 570 HP with 92 octane. OK ....I can accept that. But what is the alternate fuel they are using to get 800 HP? Nitrous Oxide?, Nitromethane? As far as I know, it's fairly easy to get 100-200 additional HP from NOS, but when I see that as part of a HP curve, I consider that cheating. And I wonder how the rest of the drivetrain holds up.?

[aglio412]

i'm sure the 1000 is obtained thru nitrous, 78347289 octane gas, 2 G4's hooked up to the ECU...

just sayin, it can be done...

couldn't imagine the seals..or hell piston walls lasting very long in a car like that.

[johnnymk]

Back in the fifties and sixties, if you could get 1 HP per cubic inch, you were doing something. Considering that you can get 2 and sometimes 3 HP per cubic inch today is truly amazing, even spending the megabucks. So I am very much impressed!

[Blu]

Originally posted by aglio412
i'm sure the 1000 is obtained thru nitrous, 78347289 octane gas, 2 G4's hooked up to the ECU...

just sayin, it can be done...

couldn't imagine the seals..or hell piston walls lasting very long in a car like that.

A Mac user and a dubber, can't beat it.

TBG

[aglio412]

Originally posted by TheBluGuy


A Mac user and a dubber, can't beat it.

TBG

unfortunately i don't have a G4...yet

i used the G4 because of its sub-supercomputer brilliance...

oh, and there's already a mac vs pc thread..so starting it here would be redundant