I don't know what to do!

[I M WireD]

I am having problems with my girlfriend right now. I don't know what to do, I herd you guys here at G|A give some good advise. Here is my problem. I've been with my girlfriend for almost 4 months now. These months have been fun, but they are getting boring. I am the first guy she has had a serious relationship with. For me this is my third. I am also the first guy she has said "I Love You" too. She is morman, meaning she wont have sex till she is married, I totaly respect that of her, but i'm still a teenager and i am getting ancy. One time when we were alone we had oral sex and she didnt kno where to begin, she is a very uneducated girl in this field, I want someone who knows a at least a little about his stuff. Also, she is obsessed with holding hands, I can understand wanting to, but she will fight to hold hands, I am getting tired of it, I have tryed to hint not to, but she didn't get the hints. Another thing, all she wants to do is make-out, in front of everyone, for me personaly, i'd rather do it privatly away from our friends and do stuff with my friends while we are all there. I think I want to break up with her but i dont kno how to say it to her. How can i do it in a easy way for we are still friends, because i value friendship. i dont want to lose it.

[I M WireD]

Another thing I forgot. It's her birthday in two weeks

[oblongmelon]

OMG IT'S THE OSMOND SPAMMER!

[I M WireD]

im a spammer?

[LPMiller]

hmmm. Well for one thing, stop dropping hints. Tell her, in a nice way, about the holding hands things. Tell her you are shy about making out in public. Sex, can't help you there, all you can do is tell her what you like, teach her, if she is willing. Inexperienced sex with someone you love is still better then experienced sex with someone you don't.

Above all, forget the hints. Relationships are about talking.

[Burzhui]

wow so being a mormon is not having sex... i always thought it was areligion :P

[I M WireD]

Originally posted by Burzhui
wow so being a mormon is not having sex... i always thought it was areligion :P
it is, and part of the religion is not having sex until married

[Kim]

Originally posted by I M WireD

it is, and part of the religion is not having sex until married

And, if she is worried about not having sex, then she ought not be foolin' around like she is. Someone is going to tell her bishop.;)

[Tuvi]

does she wear lucky mormon underwear?

[I M WireD]

Originally posted by Kim


And, if she is worried about not having sex, then she ought not be foolin' around like she is. Someone is going to tell her bishop.;)
she wont, we were bending the rules

[Nanotech9]

Originally posted by Tuvi
does she wear lucky mormon underwear?

a chastity belt like the princess chick in Robinhood, men in tights!?
:naughty:

BTW, shes being a VERY BAD morman. believe me, i used to work with 4 of them. One or tow of them were "bad" mormans, and the other two were good mormans. I can garuntee you making out in public (or private) is not something she's supposed to be doing. sounds to me like shes chpomin at the bit to have sex and stuff, but her religious conscience is keeping her from it (not that theres anything wrong with that). but geex, i would consider oral sex as bad as normal sex, especially for her being a morman.

[Burzhui]

Originally posted by I M WireD

it is, and part of the religion is not having sex until married

umm dude, i know that, i was being... how you say sarcastic... are you at all familiar with that concept?:D

[Memo]

You have to decide whether or not you actually want to be with her. Put it this way. You seem as though you want to have some fun and then LATER on worry about a woman you want for the rest of your life. I don't blame you man, you can't know what you really like unless you've tried a few things. There is no point in BSing around for a little bit longer if she's not the right girl. She is just going to get more attached and it's going to be harder to break up with her. You should tell her straight up how you feel. Who knows, she might be interested in sex. I mean sex can be "loving" and "intimate." You say you've already "had oral sex" and well, there's nothing loving about that, it's just all about blowing your load. I myself knew two mormon girls who had sex and of course they were still devoted to their religion. However, if you don't think she's right, don't stick around and bull**** her :).

[Jihforce]

Originally posted by I M WireD
I am having problems with my girlfriend right now. I don't know what to do, I herd you guys here at G|A give some good advise. Here is my problem. I've been with my girlfriend for almost 4 months now. These months have been fun, but they are getting boring. I am the first guy she has had a serious relationship with. For me this is my third. I am also the first guy she has said "I Love You" too. She is morman, meaning she wont have sex till she is married, I totaly respect that of her, but i'm still a teenager and i am getting ancy. One time when we were alone we had oral sex and she didnt kno where to begin, she is a very uneducated girl in this field, I want someone who knows a at least a little about his stuff. Also, she is obsessed with holding hands, I can understand wanting to, but she will fight to hold hands, I am getting tired of it, I have tryed to hint not to, but she didn't get the hints. Another thing, all she wants to do is make-out, in front of everyone, for me personaly, i'd rather do it privatly away from our friends and do stuff with my friends while we are all there. I think I want to break up with her but i dont kno how to say it to her. How can i do it in a easy way for we are still friends, because i value friendship. i dont want to lose it.

hey dude, i know what you mean. What is it with the holding hands thing? I'm dating a lds right now too. Since you are her first, she's going to want to hold your hand and show affection that way. Because she can't really do it any other way. My suggestion to you is this, knowing what you know, you should make your decision on what you think you can handle and what you can't. If you are in love with her, and she's worth the wait, the stick around. I know you're a teenager and your hormon's are raging. Its understandable, but if your interest is to get laid, I think you are barking at the wrong tree. If you make her feel forced to have to sleep with you, then you're not doing yourself any favors either. What LPM said about inexperienced sex vs experienced sex is true. Just understand that what you two have already done already puts her in a tough situation. She's not bending the rules, she's already broken them. Approach this with caution, I think she loves you, the fact that she is willing to go beyond just holding hands should tell you that. But she's got her limits. And if you say you respect that, then there shouldn't be a problem. Believe me, you've got it better than I do. I can only kiss my girl and that, she says, is already 'bending the rules' haahaa, go figure. And yes, I get a lot of hand holding.

[zenbooty]

You're a teenager. Its your time to be adventurous and free, not shacking up and shackling up to some mormon marriage-bait. So dump her. Do it cleanly and respectfully, and understand that it WILL hurt her no matter what you do, but that's life. If she still wants to be friends, that will be her decision, not yours. No approach you take to ensure she behaves how you want and stay friends with you will work, because she is young and free too. Can't escape pain in this world. And in life you must disappoint some people. To try not to is to get yourself into some really bad situations. Like marrying the wrong person out of fear instead of love, for example. I've seen it happen and its not pretty.

[Kim]

Originally posted by I M WireD

she wont, we were bending the rules


Sorry, I am in no position to judge. Please be careful though. ;)

[BrewMaster]

Move on man. This is causing too much stress. it's all going to come back and bite you in the ass after y'all have sex or she sarts questioning the oral sex stuff. She's gonna blame you and it's all going to get messy. Save yourself the problems and move on. Have a good time as a teenager but don't tie yourself down. And just a note, be careful man, wear a condom when you're having sex. I'm sure you know that, but when clothes start flying off, people have tendency to "forget." I don't give a damn who the girl is, she can say she's never done anything, but that's only good until you get some disease all up on your ding-a-ling. Then her word doesn't mean crap. Play it safe.:thumb:

[Memo]

Originally posted by Kim



ummm, oral sex IS sex, (according to church doctrine) and it is VERY discouraged. :)

oral sex:sex as alcohol:drugs :D

"I do alcohol, man"

[styleee]

Originally posted by Burzhui


umm dude, i know that, i was being... how you say sarcastic... are you at all familiar with that concept?:D

maybe you should have used so that we knew you were being sarcastic.

cause, its not like we can see your face or hear your tone of voice when we're reading your posts

[Blu]

Check out www.technicalvirgin.com

It's a satire. It'll make you rethink your definition of "sex" in non biblical terms...


TBGTBG

[Jihforce]

Originally posted by styleee


maybe you should have used so that we knew you were being sarcastic.

cause, its not like we can see your face or hear your tone of voice when we're reading your posts
Just look at his avatar and you'll have a pretty good idea. I know that's what I do. :P
(I'm kidding by the way) haahaaa

[Lolita]

Originally posted by UT Memo
I mean sex can be "loving" and "intimate." You say you've already "had oral sex" and well, there's nothing loving about that, it's just all about blowing your load.

I disagree, oral sex can be just as loving and intimate as anything else, its all in how you approach it!

[welfareloser]

Originally posted by Lolita


I disagree, oral sex can be just as loving and intimate as anything else, its all in how you approach it!

agreed! specially when it's tit for tat, so to speak...

[Memo]

Originally posted by Lolita


I disagree, oral sex can be just as loving and intimate as anything else, its all in how you approach it!

So Anal sex can be loving too as long as I inch it in instead of ramming it? I really don't think it can. I mean, it is obvious the thing isn't meant to be there. I'm not saying i'm against it, by all means, i'm alllllllllll for it, I just don't see how it can be "loving."

[welfareloser]

Originally posted by UT Memo


So Anal sex can be loving too as long as I inch it in instead of ramming it?

i say it can be loving while ramming it, too, but nobody ever accused me of having a good idea of what love is :P

[I M WireD]

I want to get her a birthday present, and i dont want to break up before her birthday. I'm goin to break up after her birthday. But how should I do it? What should I say? I don't want to hurt her.

[welfareloser]

breaking up hurts. postponing it is worse. she will sense your discomfort with your deception. on some level, she will know that you are no longer "in" this relationship, and it will make her feel terrible. when you decide to end it, end it. putting on a sham will ruin her birthday and is a cruel thing to do. you may think you're good enough to pull it off, but most people aren't.

[Lolita]

Originally posted by UT Memo


So Anal sex can be loving too as long as I inch it in instead of ramming it? I really don't think it can. I mean, it is obvious the thing isn't meant to be there. I'm not saying i'm against it, by all means, i'm alllllllllll for it, I just don't see how it can be "loving."

ok so what u mean to tell me is that gay couples cant have a loving sexual relationship? just because that wasnt the original place to go for, doesnt mean that it cant be loving

[zenbooty]

Originally posted by welfareloser
i say it can be loving while ramming it, too, but nobody ever accused me of having a good idea of what love is :P

:eek:

Feeling risky, eh? Risky enough for a trip to Queens? :naughty:

[Memo]

Originally posted by Lolita


ok so what u mean to tell me is that gay couples cant have a loving sexual relationship? just because that wasnt the original place to go for, doesnt mean that it cant be loving

I'm not even going to go there......we're straying away from the purpose of the thread.



I want to get her a birthday present, and i dont want to break up before her birthday. I'm goin to break up after her birthday. But how should I do it? What should I say? I don't want to hurt her

I really don't think this would be a good idea. As someone already said, she'll sense it. If you care about not hurting her then it would be best to break up before it. She'll not only be hurt but MAD if you do it after her birthday, I think. You can still get her a birthday present man. Just because two people can't be toether doesn't mean they dont' care for each other. You can get her a present just like you would get any friend.

[I M WireD]

I want to do it this weekend, I do want to break up, but how can I say it? I'll try to stay as positive as I can, i don't want to lose her friendship. You guys hav helped me greatly, now just this last thing.

[Blu]

Originally posted by Lolita


ok so what u mean to tell me is that gay couples cant have a loving sexual relationship? just because that wasnt the original place to go for, doesnt mean that it cant be loving

Who says that gay couples have to have anal sex? Don't pull out that stuff if you don't know what you're talking about.

TBG

[Jihforce]

Originally posted by I M WireD
I want to do it this weekend, I do want to break up, but how can I say it? I'll try to stay as positive as I can, i don't want to lose her friendship. You guys hav helped me greatly, now just this last thing.

If and when it happens, you're gonna have to give her some space and stuff. Regardless, she'll be pissed. I can't see why she wouldn't. Just be considerate and give her some time. Then be friends. It takes two to make friends and if she doesn't want to be your friend after this, she reserves that right.

[Lolita]

Originally posted by TheBluGuy


Who says that gay couples have to have anal sex? Don't pull out that stuff if you don't know what you're talking about.

TBG


i didnt say they have to have it!

[Blu]

Originally posted by Lolita



i didnt say they have to have it!

No, but you implied that having a gay, loving relationship requires anal sex.

TBG

[welfareloser]

Originally posted by TheBluGuy


No, but you implied that having a gay, loving relationship requires anal sex.

TBG

she did not. leave her alone. she said that loving gay couples have anal sex... NOT that they ALL do. some do. some don't. get the chip off your shoulder. if you must bitch, at least find something worth bitching about.

[Memo]

Originally posted by I M WireD
I want to do it this weekend, I do want to break up, but how can I say it? I'll try to stay as positive as I can, i don't want to lose her friendship. You guys hav helped me greatly, now just this last thing.

You're going to have to give it to her straight. Don't try to make excuses about it. You feel how you feel and she'll have to accept it. Of course she's going to be angry and hurt. You'll have to give her some time but if you guys truly are friends then you'll be able to stay friends. This might take a few days or weeks, depends on the girl. It seems hard to say, I know, but once you do you'll have a huge amount of weight off your chest. The most important thing is to NOT GET SUCKED BACK IN. After you break up sometimes people have a tendency to REALLY REALLY tell each other how they felt and get back together but it lasts only so long and that's not going to change the reasons you broke up with her.

[Blu]

Originally posted by welfareloser


she did not. leave her alone. she said that loving gay couples have anal sex... NOT that they ALL do. some do. some don't. get the chip off your shoulder. if you must bitch, at least find something worth bitching about.

I think it's worth bitching about. People have terrible misconseptions about homosexuals. It's important to me that they be clarified. If they aren't clarified, it gives justification for people to harbor feelings of hate and mistrust that are horribly misplaced.

TBG

[welfareloser]

Originally posted by TheBluGuy


I think it's worth bitching about. People have terrible misconseptions about homosexuals. It's important to me that they be clarified. If they aren't clarified, it gives justification for people to harbor feelings of hate and mistrust that are horribly misplaced.

TBG

i agree, EXCEPT for the part where this was a misconception. the point was made that any sex other than "tab a in slot a" is not loving, and lolita gave the EXAMPLE of "tab a in slot b" as something loving between two homosexual men - the point being that, since neither of them possess a slot a, they cannot engage in that particular sexual act, but their relationship can still be loving. she only gave one example, she could have given any of a dozen other examples. she was not even saying what you implied she said, which is that ALL homosexuals have anal sex (and so what if they did?????)

since the woman clearly feels that homosexuals can have loving relationships, i just think that your hounding her for "misconceptions" is grossly misplaced.

[Lolita]

Originally posted by welfareloser


i agree, EXCEPT for the part where this was a misconception. the point was made that any sex other than "tab a in slot a" is not loving, and lolita gave the EXAMPLE of "tab a in slot b" as something loving between two homosexual men - the point being that, since neither of them possess a slot a, they cannot engage in that particular sexual act, but their relationship can still be loving. she only gave one example, she could have given any of a dozen other examples. she was not even saying what you implied she said, which is that ALL homosexuals have anal sex (and so what if they did?????)

since the woman clearly feels that homosexuals can have loving relationships, i just think that your hounding her for "misconceptions" is grossly misplaced.

thanks welfare, i couldnt have put it better myself :)

[Anck Su Namun]

Originally posted by UT Memo
You seem as though you want to have some fun and then LATER on worry about a woman you want for the rest of your life.
But if you have too much "fun", the right woman might not like that. Personally I don't want a guy who has whored around.