View Full Version : Don't tell your MP3 player, but Apple just kicked it's ass
Check it out... (www.apple.com/ipod)
TBG
Burzhui
10-23-2001, 01:56 PM
yea my plater will be upset :D
Burzhui
10-23-2001, 01:58 PM
first of all it's apple which is already ewww :puke:
second of all they can kiss my hairy ass for 400 bucks
DoPeY5007
10-23-2001, 01:58 PM
:wow:
it has a 5GB hard disk drive...
and itn't much bigger than the drive
http://a772.g.akamai.net/7/772/51/2877c012e4f4c1/www.apple.com/ipod/images/indexdimensions10232001.jpg
http://a912.g.akamai.net/7/912/51/d045a356306f8e/www.apple.com/ipod/images/indextopipod10232001.jpg
DoPeY5007
10-23-2001, 02:00 PM
Not to bad of a price...
$399.00
Originally posted by Burzhui
first of all it's apple which is already ewww :puke:
second of all they can kiss my hairy ass for 400 bucks
Did you actually read the page or just look at the price? If it weren't for Apple, there wouldn't be a mouse in your hand, so watch the naysaying. The same goes for Firewire (IEEE 1394) and SCSI.
The price is more than justified. The thing connects via fire wire, which means crazy fast downloads. It's got a whole assload of space, and it charges it 10 hour battery in 1 hour..via the Firewire port. Tell me how much the Creative player w/ the drive costs, and how it connected...
TBG
DoPeY5007
10-23-2001, 02:07 PM
yeah..
I am not a BIG apple fan, but this thing does kick some ass!!!...
Burzhui
10-23-2001, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by TheBluGuy
Did you actually read the page or just look at the price? If it weren't for Apple, there wouldn't be a mouse in your hand, so watch the naysaying. The same goes for Firewire (IEEE 1394) and SCSI.
The price is more than justified. The thing connects via fire wire, which means crazy fast downloads. It's got a whole assload of space, and it charges it 10 hour battery in 1 hour..via the Firewire port. Tell me how much the Creative player w/ the drive costs, and how it connected...
TBG
Dude i understand, and yes it's a nifty gadget... and yea firewire is :drool:. Plus it's not only an mp3 player but a storage device for other files and all. But i mean come on, it's Apple... they made a Mac... and then the iMac... need i say more
DoPeY5007
10-23-2001, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by Burzhui
Dude i understand, and yes it's a nifty gadget... and yea firewire is :drool:. Plus it's not only an mp3 player but a storage device for other files and all. But i mean come on, it's Apple... they made a Mac... and then the iMac... need i say more
But like TBG said, Apple has brought us some great things like SCSI and firewire, usb as well???...
but if they wern't any good the would have died down long ago....
Burzhui
10-23-2001, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by DoPeY5007
But like TBG said, Apple has brought us some great things like SCSI and firewire, usb as well???...
but if they wern't any good the would have died down long ago....
Well they almost did about 4 years ago, does that count?
And yes i will have to give them credit for a mouse, a desktop, and firewire
PuTangClan
10-23-2001, 02:16 PM
I would buy it, but it only works on Apple computers
If it weren't for Apple, there wouldn't be a mouse in your hand...
Well if ya want to get technical that would be xerox. :P
Bah, looks like it's a mac only product too!!
Originally posted by JPR
Well if ya want to get technical that would be xerox. :P
Bah, looks like it's a mac only product too!!
Well, yeah, the PARC is responsible for a lot, but I'm talking mainstream introduction. I think it is Mac only right now, but I'm sure there will be a version for PC.
TBG
BrewMaster
10-23-2001, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by JPR
Well if ya want to get technical that would be xerox. :P
Bah, looks like it's a mac only product too!!
You are correct my friend. I'm not knocking the product that started this thread, but let's not all go suckin' :munch: Apple's ding-a-ling so quickly. Xerox is the company we all have to thank for the graphical user intereface (ie, "Windows"), not Apple as many like to think. Nor did Apple in vent the mouse. That also was Xerox. I don't know about Firewire and USB, but SCSI was developed by Apple and several other companies, but by no means was it perfected by Apple.
They make the best comps for video and graphical stuff, I don't deny that, but I've found diehard Mac fans tend to overstate how great Apple/Mac products are. I lost all interest in Macs when my friend bought an iBook about 2 years ago and it was the biggest piece of crap I've ever seen.
hapoo
10-23-2001, 02:52 PM
firewire was apple but usb was all intel.
I'm not too fond of apples but they do have a talent for designing sleek products. If they made the titanium powerbook as a pc i'd be all over that thing! The mp3 player looks awesome IMO. If you simply ignore it cause its an apple product... your loss. Just cause their computers suck doesn't mean that all their other products do. Now the newton... there was cool product!
It's mac only, which makes it a 400 piece of sh*t to me.
ribitch
10-23-2001, 03:38 PM
Intel did do USB, but apple was the first manufactureer to go all usb. The intel/amd world is finally just starting to see what apple did needed to be done.
Yes, its only mac capable, but i have yet to see an external device like this that cannot have some software created to get it to work on other systems. Its a matter of designing a program to transmit via firewire from your system to the mp3 player.
It can send a cd in 10 seconds. Not too bad. Or about 1000 songs in under 10 minutes.
Creative can't do that. Intel can't. Rio can't.
Yes I'm an apple person. Hell i work part time for them. This isnt what i wanted to see, but the thing is remarkable. Its the size of a deck of cards. Its only 6.5 ounces. The nomad is the size of a portable cd player, and seems to weigh more.
Apple has hit a bullseye here. This is the first truly inovative mp3 player to hit the market since the original players came out.
I felt the price was high, but its well justified. The speed is great. Size is awesome, and decent weight. Plus its a portable HD. Look at the prices of portable firewire drives and you will see that this is a good price.
Anyone that wants to rag on apple for being crap, let them. They dont see that apple is a couple of steps ahead of the industry.
Oh, and in times of large losses in the computerr industry, who showed they made money in the last quarter? Oh, i know, Its apple.
hapoo
10-23-2001, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by chosenfool
youre kidding, right?:D
but then again, newton's hand-writing recognition was a precursor to the Palm's graffiti....
Newton WAS the original pda! Everything MS and palm are doing now is as a result of it. Keep in mind the thing came out almost a decade ago.
DoPeY5007
10-23-2001, 03:42 PM
Well said ribitch :cheers:
Jihforce
10-23-2001, 03:46 PM
As cool as this looks, I think they messed up by making it an Mac only product. They should have tried to target all mp3 enthusiasts, not just Mac ones. I'm not about to run out and get a titanium powerbook just cuz it matches the iPod. As much as I like them, I just don't have that kinda cash.
xsiled2
10-23-2001, 04:24 PM
apple + jeff goldblume + their prices = SUCK ASS COMPUTING
it was a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong day, the fire burns on
Originally posted by UT Memo
It's mac only, which makes it a 400 piece of sh*t to me.
Back it up there Texas...
TBG
hapoo
10-23-2001, 04:34 PM
BTW the PC version is going to be released shortly. As for the handwriting recognition on the newton, one of my friends had one and i used to play around with it all the time, it wasn't as flawless as graffiti but it worked pretty well. i've never used a wince machine so i can't compare.
Speedfreak
10-23-2001, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by ribitch
Oh, and in times of large losses in the computerr industry, who showed they made money in the last quarter? Oh, i know, Its apple.
It is easier to show you made money when you charge so much for your products and have a larger profit line. They can do this because there is no competition like there is with real computers.
Originally posted by ribitch
Apple has hit a bullseye here. This is the first truly inovative mp3 player to hit the market since the original players came out.
Woopee.. it's faster and smaller. That is the evolution of things in the computer industry. Things keep getting faster and smaller. "truly inovative" does not explain this.
brainsmile
10-23-2001, 04:36 PM
gonna have to calm it down
Speedfreak
10-23-2001, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by brainsmile
gonna have to calm it down
I am calm. See:
:) ;) :P :D
Originally posted by Speedfreak
I am calm. See:
:splat:
:P
BrewMaster
10-23-2001, 04:56 PM
Yet again it has all degenerated into a Mac vs PC debate. Oh well....
The new MP3 player looks cool to me but...
1. I ain't got a Mac (an never will)
2. I ain't got $400 to drop on a 5GB HD
so I think I'll wait for another company to make something faster, smaller in size, larger capacity, and down right cooler and then no one will give a flying fuk about this Mac **** anymore....
ribitch
10-23-2001, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by Speedfreak
It is easier to show you made money when you charge so much for your products and have a larger profit line. They can do this because there is no competition like there is with real computers.
Woopee.. it's faster and smaller. That is the evolution of things in the computer industry. Things keep getting faster and smaller. "truly inovative" does not explain this.
The innovation here is the speed. Its by far faster than the current USB standard. As for a real PC, why do mathematicians, Physicts, and chemists use apple systems? Power. Plain and simple. Same goes for the movie industry and musicians. Power makes a REAL computer. Not the ability to play games, or go to walmart and buy a new soundcard. If this were the case, your real computers would exclude DEC alphas and Sparc systems.
People like you need to get a clue. A porsche is expensive for the performance and craftmanship. Same with an Apple. It costs abit more up front, but it will last a bit longer. Look at their life expectancy.
your REAL PC's aren't built as well, use cheaper components, and have a shorter life. It might seem fast. But hell, anyone can make a camaro go fast, tweak it a bit and make it a tad faster, but its still no match for the porsche.
Sorry to be the ass, but you need to wake up and see the real difference between systems. You are talking the **** without knowing the entire facts.
ZrEo0
10-23-2001, 05:16 PM
why does everyone bad talk macs so much? they are not bad. is it because all the menus are on top? well in windows they are to? macs are more stable and software is alot easier. i see only 2 bad things about macs 1, the 1-button mouse, and 2, good software is for windows, if macs could get all the soft and games, i would say macs all the way
Speedfreak
10-23-2001, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by ribitch
Sorry to be the ass, but you need to wake up and see the real difference between systems. You are talking the **** without knowing the entire facts.
No, you are not an ass. An ass would take a person's comments as opinions and leave it at that, but also provide information about his own experiences. An ass would be open-minded to another person's opinions and try to give information toward his point of views, but be very assertive about it. An ass would not think his point of view is correct just because he has never had any problems with the subject.
You. I don't know what you are.
Sorry to be an ass.
p.s. You obviously haven't seen a lot of high performance Camaros, but I know you were just trying to use that as a metaphor, so that's cool. :)
LPMiller
10-23-2001, 05:43 PM
All I see is two nerds looking for a time out.
Mac Vs PC is sooo 10 years ago, people. True geeks love all that plugs into the holy socket of Alternating Current.
Speedfreak
10-23-2001, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by LPMiller
All I see is two nerds looking for a time out.
Mac Vs PC is sooo 10 years ago, people. True geeks love all that plugs into the holy socket of Alternating Current.
Don't tell me conversation is evil. Everyone has their own opinion. I don't see a problem with that. This is fun and no one gets hurt. ;)
I have to make up for lost time. I had a mac 10 years ago when Mac Vs. PC talk was "in". How could I get in on this when I hadn't had a PC to compare it with yet. :P
hapoo
10-23-2001, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by LPMiller
All I see is two nerds looking for a time out.
Mac Vs PC is sooo 10 years ago, people. True geeks love all that plugs into the holy socket of Alternating Current.
I dont know... i'm a DC kinda guy myself. :P
ZrEo0
10-23-2001, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by hapoo
I dont know... i'm a DC kinda guy myself. :P
image comics baby
BrewMaster
10-23-2001, 11:07 PM
So I'm wathcing the Simpson's right now and they're in an assembly at school and one of the bullies leans over to another and says "take a note on your Newton, beat up Ralph." He does it and it writes "eat up...." Considering the current discussion, it was hilarious!! Then he throws the newton away. hehe.
eSDee
10-23-2001, 11:15 PM
I kinda like Macs. Although I have 3 PC's now, my first computer was an Apple IIc. Until a couple of years ago that was the last time I worked on a Mac. However when I started working tech support at UCSD, they used almost nothing but Macintosh. I like the fact that when you install a program, it is all in one folder and not spread all over the place like a PC. Also when you want to uninstall a program you just drag it into the trashcan. I still can't get over the one button mouse, but other than that, I think they are cool.
Plus in the multimedia and digital art industry, Macs are on top.
hapoo
10-23-2001, 11:20 PM
Very few programs are completely self contained. I'm sure even on the mac when you install a file it adds a file or two in other directories. On pc's almost every decently written program is installed in its own folder neatly in the "Program Files" folder.
nomoney
10-24-2001, 12:12 AM
That thing looks really cool to me but really expensive (of course, its made by apple). I have never really been a Mac person but lately they have been catching my eye. I dont think i am going to convert any time soon but they have been doing really good things with their products (besides the price).
BTW: duz anyone know why USB took off in intel instead of firewire? USB 2.0 is slowly being phased in but it seems like it should have been here a long time ago. Either that or it was delayed to get a bunch of USB 1.0/1 products out and then give ppl a reason to upgrade. Firewire is way cool though. DV cams :D
hapoo
10-24-2001, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by PsillyPyro
BTW: duz anyone know why USB took off in intel instead of firewire? USB 2.0 is slowly being phased in but it seems like it should have been here a long time ago. Either that or it was delayed to get a bunch of USB 1.0/1 products out and then give ppl a reason to upgrade. Firewire is way cool though. DV cams :D
Intel made the usb standard so they really pushed it. So since around '98 every motherboard has had it built in.
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