Hockey question....

[Kim]

I had my first experience with hockey Tuesday night. Can someone please explain what icing?? is?

[xsiled2]

icing is a rule based on sending the puck down the ice to trap the team with not as many guys on d it sends it back to the team that hit it's side :)

[hoey222]

its hard to explain.

heres a page with pics to help.
http://www.learn2.com/05/0546/05466.asp

we'll make you a hockey fan yet.

:D

[chrissy]

The way my dad said it to me when I was learning was this, If team "a" hits the puck across the ice and behind the net of team "b", and team "b" gets to the puck first, it's icing. And then there is a face-off.

That link really explains it well :D

[Markel]

If you think icing is hard to understand, don't even think about asking what an "off sides" is in soccer. :)

[Kim]

Thanks, the guys I was with were too busy bitching about their $5 beer to be any help during the game!

[attgig]

here's the real deal :)

you got all the lines on the hockey rink...
you got a red line(marks the middle of the rink), the 2 blue lines, and the goal lines....

if you're on one side of the rink(on one side of the red line), and you send it towards the opposing goal....once it passes the goal line and the other team touches the puck first, its an icing...
you can send it down, and if your team touches it first, its not an icing.

[attgig]

by the way...

what game did you see???
professional?
junior leagues?

[Kim]

It was the Utah Grizzlies vs. the Cleveland Barons. Not professional, but maybe one step below??

[IrishSS]

Heres a brief explination:

A player shoots the puck across the center red line, past the opponent’s goal line, and a defender gets to it and touches it first. However, if an offensive player or the defending goalie touches the puck first, or if the offensive team is "short-handed," icing is not called.

Short handed meaning being on the bad side of a power play, with your team down one or two men.

Now, there are a few technicalities...

If a member of the defending team can play the puck, in the referees judgement, and doesnt to get the icing call, then the icing is waved off. Also, a defender or defending goalie can wave off the icing if they so choose.

Any others? :D I like explaining hockey...

[Jihforce]

Originally posted by Kim
It was the Utah Grizzlies vs. the Cleveland Barons. Not professional, but maybe one step below??

Probably one of them IHL/AHL league. Those are like the NHL's farm teams. When I was living in Crapchester, we had the Americans, which was the farm team for the Sabres. I went to a San Diego Gulls game too. Oh yeah, I went to watch the Kings vs Caps game at the Staples center a few weeks ago...It was soo much fun! Caps won of course. Best part, my buddy hooked me up with 2 premium seat tickets. YEY!

[Markel]

Originally posted by IrishSS
Heres a brief explination:

A player shoots the puck across the center red line, past the opponent?s goal line, and a defender gets to it and touches it first. However, if an offensive player or the defending goalie touches the puck first, or if the offensive team is "short-handed," icing is not called.
If an offensive player reaches it first, how does this differ from a "two line pass"?

[attgig]

Originally posted by Markel

If an offensive player reaches it first, how does this differ from a "two line pass"?

cause it'll be at least 3 lines :)...the red line, then the blue the goal... :)

I just made that up, but sounds good :D

yeah, i like talkin about hockey too....
haven't done that in years.....since high school since a really cool chick who got me into hockey and we talked a bunch about it...she taught me about icing too :D.

[IrishSS]

Originally posted by Markel

If an offensive player reaches it first, how does this differ from a "two line pass"?

Ah grasshoppa... you must learn the ways yet...

I think, that for it to be a two line pass, that the other offensive player already has to be two lines ahead... but, in an icing situation, that would be offsides...

[coleslaw]

Originally posted by IrishSS
for it to be a two-line pass, that the other offensive player already has to be two lines ahead... but, in an icing situation, that would be offsides... That is correct, sir. Two line passes always occur behind the blue line, while icing occurs when the puck is dumped to the opposite end of the ice in desparation. As IrishSS said, a two-line pass cannot occur past the blue line as that would be offsides.

[Markel]

Originally posted by IrishSS
I think, that for it to be a two line pass, that the other offensive player already has to be two lines ahead... but, in an icing situation, that would be offsides...
Of course. The offensive player can't have preceded the puck over the blue line. So if the puck was passed from behind the red line (crossing the red and blue), and the offensive player then crossed the blue (so no off sides) and picked up the puck, would that be a two line pass?

As well, would a pass that crosses the defensive blue line and the red line (before being touched) also be a two line pass if it is received by teammate?

Ahh, I think I might go pay google a visit. :)

[Markel]

Found this at http://www.firstbasesports.com/hkyex.htm#ex4

A two-line pass violation occurs when a pass is received by a teammate after the puck passes over one of the blue lines and the red center line without being touched. (See Figure 13) However, like a regular offsides it is no penalty if the puck precedes the player across the center line. A face-off is held near the spot where the two-line pass violation occurred.

[IrishSS]

Originally posted by Markel

Of course. The offensive player can't have preceded the puck over the blue line. So if the puck was passed from behind the red line (crossing the red and blue), and the offensive player then crossed the blue (so no off sides) and picked up the puck, would that be a two line pass?

If the player was behind the redline, before the pass crossed the redline, then there would be no two line pass penalty. If the player is in front of the redline before the pass has crossed the redline, that incurs the penalty.


As well, would a pass that crosses the defensive blue line and the red line (before being touched) also be a two line pass if it is received by teammate?



Yes. basic definiton of a two-line pass, if the player was ahead of the redline, as stated above...