anti-yankees fans

[xsiled2]

i living in AZ have heard comments like "yankees suck" or "they win to much" think of this in other terms. bin laden wants us dead because we are the winners of the world because we win to much bah bah come up with a good excuse and stop dissing a team that has won more then 1/4 of all world series.

ventage srry

[zenbooty]

Yankees suck. They buy all their championships.

[xsiled2]

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[YanksFanRy]

Originally posted by zenbooty
Yankees suck. They buy all their championships.

You just can't rationally say the Yankees suck. No team that sucks wins 26 World Series. no sucky team wins three in a row. No team that sucks wins 4 out of 5. No team that sucks is in the World Series playing right this second. You don't like the Yankees, but they don't suck.

Say you hate them all you like, but don't give me sh1t about how they suck.

[oblongmelon]

:angry: :ugh: :pissed:

[OC]

Originally posted by zenbooty
They buy all their championships.
You said it. They have just about the highest salaries in all of baseball. Compare them to a much lower-paid team, then figure out how much each run cost them. Looked at it that way, the Yanks suck big time.

-OC

[xsiled2]

people play for a winner to win why not pay them more considering when they need to win they usually do

[OC]

Originally posted by xsiled2
people play for a winner to win why not pay them more considering when they need to win they usually do
The Yankees arguably have the most talented players in all of baseball for one reason and one reason only - the salaries. There is just no way in hell that a significantly lower-paid team can consistently compete with ones that pay out huge salaries.

Think of it this way - a $50,000 car is going to be better in virtually all respects over a $10,000 car. Is comparing these two cars "fair"? Hell no. The lower priced car simply cannot compete, for a number of reasons. Does this mean that the $50,000 car should be given kudos? Not in this example. If it were compared to another $50,000 car, then it would be a fair comparison.

Other unfair comarisons: a CIO vs an entry-level help desk person; a Hummer vs a RAV4; a P4 vs an AMD K5; the U.S. vs Irag; the Yanks vs the Cubs. You get the idea.

That a team of players with huge salaries has managed to overpower other teams with significantly lower salaries doesn't impress me one bit. Level out the salaries so that the talent can be spread out - and while you're at it, add salary caps - now THAT would lead to some fair fights.

-OC

[xsiled2]

tell that to texas

[Butch]

Look up the middle of the field when you see the Yanks out there . . . who do you see? Jorge Posada, Mariano Rivera . . . or maybe Andy Pettitte . . . then Jeter, Soriano, Bernie . . . where did those people all come from? Did the Yanks buy them? No . . . they all came up through the Yankees Farm System. True, they can keep them because they can pay them . . . unlike teams like the Expos . . . but the Yanks hardly bought this team, they developed it . . .

The only major free agent the Yanks have gotten in the past few years is Mike Mussina . . . that's it. Every other major acquisition has come from trades - trading people who came up in their farm system.

[zenbooty]

Originally posted by YanksFanRy
You just can't rationally say the Yankees suck.
Probably not, but who said being a Red Sox fan and being rational had anything remotely to do with each other?

Say you hate them all you like, but don't give me sh1t about how they suck.
I'll give you **** whenever my sardonic sense of humor feels like it! The Yankees suck!

[topane]

Originally posted by zenbooty

Probably not, but who said being a Red Sox fan and being rational had anything remotely to do with each other?I feel your pain...
I'm thinking the yanks are destined to win, simply because of the WTC. And the Redskins will win the Super Bowl, since they're in DC. I mean, how else can you explain their 2-game win streak?

GO SKINS!

[pennypinch]

Originally posted by Butch
Look up the middle of the field when you see the Yanks out there . . . who do you see? Jorge Posada, Mariano Rivera . . . or maybe Andy Pettitte . . . then Jeter, Soriano, Bernie . . . where did those people all come from? Did the Yanks buy them? No . . . they all came up through the Yankees Farm System. True, they can keep them because they can pay them . . . unlike teams like the Expos . . . but the Yanks hardly bought this team, they developed it . . .

The only major free agent the Yanks have gotten in the past few years is Mike Mussina . . . that's it. Every other major acquisition has come from trades - trading people who came up in their farm system.

Poor, deluded Butch. So classically homo erectus of you. You know full well legitimate free agency in baseball is only one way poorly-monied teams can lose high-profile players. A player in the last year of his deal, having a monster year...what usually happens to those guys, Butch? How many get their services retained if a team can't afford them? Moreover, when was the last time the Yankees couldn't afford someone?

Now, I'm not going to claim I know a lot about the sport of baseball, but I sure as hell know disparity when I see it. Barring the Orioles and their mess, or the A's, for whom the writing is on the wall, the big money clubs always win out. That's it.

[theorangeone]

Originally posted by zenbooty

Probably not, but who said being a Red Sox fan and being rational had anything remotely to do with each other?

I'll give you **** whenever my sardonic sense of humor feels like it! The Yankees suck!

woohoo! i agree with you zen!

anyone can be a yankees fan. its not real hard, cause you have a winning team. take a look at a red sox fan tho. i've loved the team my whole life. have they ever won a world series during my lifetime? no. will they? probably not, but i can wish. i stick with them during ALL their low points and the high points, few as they are. I get my heart crushed each october. Can you honestly say that you'd still love the yankees if they hadn't won a world series in 83 years? Would you like them just as much?

[Butch]

Originally posted by pennypinch


Poor, deluded Butch. So classically homo erectus of you. You know full well legitimate free agency in baseball is only one way poorly-monied teams can lose high-profile players. A player in the last year of his deal, having a monster year...what usually happens to those guys, Butch? How many get their services retained if a team can't afford them? Moreover, when was the last time the Yankees couldn't afford someone?

Now, I'm not going to claim I know a lot about the sport of baseball, but I sure as hell know disparity when I see it. Barring the Orioles and their mess, or the A's, for whom the writing is on the wall, the big money clubs always win out. That's it.

The only time in the past few years the Yanks have had a trade even approaching the situation you mention is with Roger Clemens. He wanted to leave Toronto, and the Blue Jays didn't have much a choice but to let him go (Even though he still had time left on his contract). However, it's not like the Yanks lowballed the Blue Jays with trade value . . . if I remember correctly, the Blue Jays got David Wells (Who at the time, was considered one of the top pitchers in the AL), and Homer Bush, and I'm sure someone else . . . in fact, many people thought the Yanks had gotten the short end of the stick - that they'd given away too much on that deal - just because Steinbrenner had a hard on for Clemens. After the decidedly mediocre first season Clemens had with the Yanks, it sure seemed that way (Mind you, Wells was healthy during that season, and was doing quite well for the Jays).

SOOOOO, I'd say that was a pretty fair trade at the time, although it sure ended up well for the Yanks. And since it was a fair trade, I maintain that Mussina is the only person in the past few years that the Yanks have acquired solely with money. Everyone else has come through player development or trade. Of course, as I said before, the Yanks have been able to KEEP players because of money though - oh, and maybe also because of the professional attitude of the team, the opportunity for professional development as a result of the environment, the fact that by being a Yankee they have the best fans in the world, and the fact that they keep winning World Series.

So put that in your pipe and smoke it! :heh:

[zenbooty]

Now the Yanks are going to go and Buy Giambi with all their money, 'cause the A's won't have the cash to match 'em.

The Yankees suck. :mad:

[DizzyT]

Originally posted by zenbooty

Probably not, but who said being a Red Sox fan and being rational had anything remotely to do with each other?

I'll give you **** whenever my sardonic sense of humor feels like it! The Yankees suck!

That is right Zen, you are not rational, in fact what you say makes you sound plain stupid! The Yankees do not suck - You suck for not being able to admit that they are a good team, wether you like them or not! Whenever your "sardonic sense of humor" feels like it you go right ahead and spew your stupidity for everyone to see.

The Yankees did NOT start off with the highest payroll this year. This is a fact. They brought most of their team up on their own with great management, most recently by Torre who I dont think anyone can deny is a good manager (even the irrational although I'm sure you'll have more sh*t to say here) and incentive to play for a historically successful team. Good pay comes with success. Winning = Money. Some other teams should try that for a change, then again, I guess if they cant pay their players, then their players will suck? Hmmm... maybe I'll try that mentality on for a while.

[Butch]

Originally posted by zenbooty
Now the Yanks are going to go and Buy Giambi with all their money, 'cause the A's won't have the cash to match 'em.

The Yankees suck. :mad:

The A's made their own bed. Giambi was willing to sign with them earlier in the year for a home team discount if they had included a no trade clause in the contract, but they refused . . . now they risk losing him.

Tough