made in China....

[attgig]

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20011125/wl/1006719491china_bin_laden_figure_bej104.html

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20011125/capt.1006719491china_bin_laden_figure_bej104.jpg

[Jihforce]

Leave it up to Chinese people to make stuff like that. Sheesh.

[Memo]

****ing chinese.

[Burzhui]

it was bound to happen, somebody would have made it, i am not saying it's a good, or even an ok thing, just it was expected

[Two Cents]

Yeesh...at least they don't have miniature people jumping off the buildings.

[sbp]

Beijing produces videos glorifying terrorist attacks on 'arrogant' US (http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$431SABQAAB2BBQFIQMFCFGGAVCBQYIV0?xml=/news/2001/11/04/wchin04.xml&sSheet=/news/2001/11/04/ixhome.html)

THE Chinese state-run propaganda machine is cashing in on the terror attacks in New York and Washington, producing books, films and video games glorifying the strikes as a humbling blow against an arrogant nation.

Video discs filled with lurid images along with dramatic opera music and even the theme from Jaws have flooded the nation's markets in the wake of the attacks.

Disc after disc bear the imprimatur of the Communist Party-controlled media. The most popular DVDs have been produced by the Xinhua information agency, Beijing Television and China Central Television.

Communist Party officials say President Jiang Zemin has obsessively watched and re-watched pictures of the aircraft crashing into the World Trade Centre. In the immediate aftermath of the attacks, workers at Beijing Television worked round-the-clock to produce a documentary they called Attack America.

Scenes from Hollywood films have been spliced between shots of the events of September 11, including footage from the 1998 remake of Godzilla, in which a monster destroys New York buildings.

As rescue workers pick through the rubble of the twin towers, the commentator proclaims that the city had reaped the consequences of decades of American bullying of weaker nations.

He said: "This is the America the whole world has wanted to see. Blood debts have been repaid in blood. America has bombed other countries and used its hegemony to deny the natural rights of others without paying the price. Who until now has dared to avenge the hurts inflicted by unaccountable Americans."

Officials at Beijing Television defended the video as an educational film that will meet market demand. A producer said: "There's this need for more information on world terrorism in the market, so we've got to meet it."

At the country's most respected bookstore, Xinhua Book Shop on Beijing's busiest shopping street, Wanfujing, crowds jockeyed around a table to buy discs. According to staff, thousands of copies of the video have been sold in the past month.

The shop assistant said: "Before people were interested in the movies but this is more compelling. What happened in New York could have happened in a movie but this is real life. It's better."

The many shops that stock pirated DVDs compiled in China and Hong Kong report that their most popular products are similar productions that use video graphics to show the United States suffering other damaging attacks on its tallest buildings and military installations.

On the unofficial films the commentary is even more callous: "Look at the panic in their faces as they wipe off the dust and crawl out of their strong buildings - now just a heap of rubble. We will never fear these people again, they have been shown to be soft-bellied paper tigers."

Elsewhere music shops are selling out of a bootleg version of the summer's top pop hit. The amended song implies that America deserves to suffer for its disregard for the point of view of countries weaker than itself.

The refrain says: "We guys are all Americans, our government is used to bullying people. We guys always have our hands on too much, this time our own people got hurt."

[BrewMaster]

Originally posted by Burzhui
it was bound to happen, somebody would have made it, i am not saying it's a good, or even an ok thing, just it was expected

the stars must be aligned weirdly today, because I agree with Burzhui. that doesn't happen much around these parts...

[Jihforce]

In a way, I don't really see this THAT much different than people on the streets selling tshirts and flags. Just much more subtle. They are still cashing in on a tragedy.

[Two Cents]

The Chinese government is just so two-faced. Our news media recently reported that the Chinese government had begun to express support for our actions against the terrorists, and then you hear about this. Classic Sun Tzu. They make you think they are agreeing with you, when they couldn't disagree more. And vice versa.

[MusashiM]

Originally posted by Two Cents
The Chinese government is just so two-faced. Our news media recently reported that the Chinese government had begun to express support for our actions against the terrorists, and then you hear about this. Classic Sun Tzu. They make you think they are agreeing with you, when they couldn't disagree more. And vice versa.

I think China has their own agenda, but it might not be as bad as it sounds. Think about it: what China tells its citizens is probably a lot different than its actual foreign policy. In order to maintain a system like they have in China, there has to be a bad guy, and guess who that is. US. But then, when it comes to actual foreign policy, China would probably side with the US, because, afterall, what does any established government have to gain from terrorism?

[evil-will]

Originally posted by UT Memo
****ing chinese.

editted because this just happened to catch me at the wrong time, but a copy was sent to you ..this is still offensive

[DoPeY5007]

A moulded figure of suspected terrorist Osama bin Laden holding the Pentagon in one hand, is seen next to a depiction of the World Trade Center towers in flames after they were hit by highjacked aircraft, on a Beijing street, Sunday, Nov. 25, 2001. The figure can be bought in a Beijing market for 30 Yuan ($US3.60) while the WTC towers sell for 15 Yuan (US$1.80) each. (AP Photo/Greg Baker):rolleyes: and they sell it for so cheap :disa:

[Memo]

Originally posted by evil-will


editted because this just happened to catch me at the wrong time, but a copy was sent to you ..this is still offensive

Ya, I got your copy. It was meant to be offensive. And as far as me not having been affected by the September 11th attacks, you're wrong buddy. Just because I don't happen to live in NYC doesn't mean I wasn't affected. I think you can ask anyone here and they'll tell you you there effected. Either way, as far as personal experiences, I did live in NYC for 4 years and do know quite a bit a people that were there. And because you have the chance to live there now and dig through the rubble doesn't mean I wouldn't do the same thing if I had the chance.

[Two Cents]

Originally posted by MusashiM

because, afterall, what does any established government have to gain from terrorism?

Exactly. The Government is siding with us (diplomatically) because at this point, there is nothing to gain, except to cull a little favor, or to lull us into a false comfort. It's classic Chinese policy; when we think we are good with them, they are working their best against us. If I were to try to divine that Goverment's true sentiments for the US, would I believe the inherently wishywashy foreign political manuveuring, or would I believe what they feed to their citizens?

If we didn't have the internet, you and I probably would never hear about the propaganda they distributing, and we wouldn't even see how two-faced they are being.

BTW, did you read that whole book, Musashi?

[evil-will]

Originally posted by UT Memo


Ya, I got your copy. It was meant to be offensive. And as far as me not having been affected by the September 11th attacks, you're wrong buddy. Just because I don't happen to live in NYC doesn't mean I wasn't affected. I think you can ask anyone here and they'll tell you you there effected. Either way, as far as personal experiences, I did live in NYC for 4 years and do know quite a bit a people that were there. And because you have the chance to live there now and dig through the rubble doesn't mean I wouldn't do the same thing if I had the chance.

you missed the point...(well part of it) what i was trying to say was, why are you blaming an entire race for the actions of one company? using your logic then, osama bin laden, hes an arab..soo all arabs bombed the wtc...is this a fair statement?

[SpeedEng]

yeah u cant blame a race for actions of a few people
thats just wrong :nono:

[MusashiM]

Originally posted by Two Cents


BTW, did you read that whole book, Musashi?

Yeah, but it's been a couple of years. I having sitting on my shelf if I need to revisit it. Most of it is common sense, when you think about it... just the problem is that a lot of what Sun Tsu says is so obvious most people overlook it.

BTW, another good book is The 5 Rings by Musashi Miyamoto (notice the nick).

[psycho-]

moo


Victor

[Grimm]

Originally posted by evil-will


you missed the point...(well part of it) what i was trying to say was, why are you blaming an entire race for the actions of one company? using your logic then, osama bin laden, hes an arab..soo all arabs bombed the wtc...is this a fair statement?

How about you pull your head out of your ass and take the comment how it was meant, not how it will give you the opportunity to show everyone how good you are at hanging on the cross.

The comment was obviously aimed at the Chinese Nation: China. Not all persons of Chinese decent. This is apparent when taken in the context of the thread. If you are a moron I can understand the mistake and I apologies for the cross comment.

Psyco- great knee-jerk, jump on the PC bandwagon, action there. How about paying attention to what someone is actually saying in context before labeling them?

[Grimm]

Originally posted by UT Memo


Ya, I got your copy. It was meant to be offensive. And as far as me not having been affected by the September 11th attacks, you're wrong buddy. Just because I don't happen to live in NYC ...

UT, don't take the bait here. He sent you an offline e-mail to upset you and cause you to make angry statements. It makes you look bad to everyone who hasn't read his obviously inflamitory mail.

Just point out that he was ashamed to have everyone else read what he sent to you and leave it at that.

[BrewMaster]

here we go again...wooptee-freaking-doo.....

[evil-will]

Originally posted by Grimm


How about you pull your head out of your ass and take the comment how it was meant, not how it will give you the opportunity to show everyone how good you are at hanging on the cross.

The comment was obviously aimed at the Chinese Nation: China. Not all persons of Chinese decent. This is apparent when taken in the context of the thread. If you are a moron I can understand the mistake and I apologies for the cross comment.

Psyco- great knee-jerk, jump on the PC bandwagon, action there. How about paying attention to what someone is actually saying in context before labeling them?

how have you dealt with racism against you? has there been any racist incidents against you at all ? ive had to deal with it since i was a kid in the early 70's..so FORGIVE..me if the comment ****ing chinese caused me some chagrin. that was my immediate reaction after seeing his post i have since takien it down. the letter i wrote him was a cut and paste of my post and im sure it didnt offend him, so give it a rest huh?

[MusashiM]

:o

I think we've all learned a valuable lesson about being careful of what we say and especially how we say it. It is very easy to hurt someone, and it is equally easy to be misunderstood.

And most of all..

Originally posted by evil-will
FORGIVE

"I'm just a soul whose intentions are good. Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood."

[Two Cents]

Originally posted by MusashiM

BTW, another good book is The 5 Rings by Musashi Miyamoto (notice the nick).

I may have to check that out. But I thought your nick was for the book "Musashi", story of a Samurai warrior who perfected fighting with two swords (a long and short one). Took me a long time to finish that big book.

[MusashiM]

Originally posted by Two Cents


I may have to check that out. But I thought your nick was for the book "Musashi", story of a Samurai warrior who perfected fighting with two swords (a long and short one). Took me a long time to finish that big book.

I didn't read that book, but I'm pretty sure it is based on Musashi Miyamoto, the author of the Book of 5 Rings.