Guess how much Eagle's cheerleaders earn?

[johnnymk]

I heard this on the radio and was astounded...$30 per game.
Do they do it for the publicity?

[helius]

They probably do it for the parties and the chance to "bag" a rich player. :heh:

[topane]

How much should they earn? I think many of them are doing it for other opportunities like modeling.

[Memo]

That still seems like very little to me. Maybe they get paid more to do some sort of promotional stuff? I have no idea. An ex-Oilers cheerleader was a teacher of mine in HS. So they obviously don't get paid much :bigmouth:

[welfareloser]

i knew they dint get paid much, but wow... that's especially bad if they don't get paid for practices and stuff... hopefully it opens up a lot of doors to other opportunities.

[irwin]

Originally posted by UT Memo
That still seems like very little to me. Maybe they get paid more to do some sort of promotional stuff? I have no idea. An ex-Oilers cheerleader was a teacher of mine in HS. So they obviously don't get paid much :bigmouth:

Sounds like some good teachin'. :naughty:

[dbax791]

That doesn't include the tips they make from the locker room "peep shows" :naughty:

[attgig]

Originally posted by dbax791
That doesn't include the tips they make from the locker room "peep shows"

or the money that they're gonna make from suing the stadium/teams because of these peep shows..

yeah...i think it's a little too..
for them to be cheerleaders means that they need a day job on top of the cheerleading jobs..
kinda sucky :(

[dbax791]

Originally posted by attgig


or the money that they're gonna make from suing the stadium/teams because of these peep shows..


I heard that the only team that is not named in the lawsuit is the Jacksonville Jaguars b/c they never played at Veterans Stadium.

Man, those guys don't know what they're missing! :P

[Grimm]

$30 really sucks.
Dallas pays theirs $50 a game. Still not enough.
These teams make enough money to compensate those girls a bit more. It wouldn't kill them to pay $100 to $120 a game + $9 an hour for practice. While it still wouldn't be a job to support them, it would be enough to help out a bit.

[Memo]

Dallas probably throws in a few grams of coke.

[johnnymk]

Where do get granulated Coca-Cola?......... DUH?

[molecularfire]

Yeah, they should pay their cheerleaders more. When I go to watch a game, I spend just as much time looking at the cheerleaders as I do the players. If I just wanted to watch the players, I'd just turn on the tube, no need to buy tickets to watch. TV is better for watching football anyways, b/c of the slo-mo.:D

[Ladogaboy]

Daaaammnnn!!! And I was going to say more than me! :disa:

[Grimm]

Originally posted by johnnymk
Where do get granulated Coca-Cola?......... DUH?
Ummmm... I think you have to go to Columbia to get it. They smuggle it in all the time though. Can get arrested for it though, some sort of legal problem with the Coca-Cola company, I think it's a trademark thing... :P

[Sir_Froggy]

Originally posted by Grimm

Ummmm... I think you have to go to Columbia to get it. They smuggle it in all the time though. Can get arrested for it though, some sort of legal problem with the Coca-Cola company, I think it's a trademark thing... :P

:heh: :heh:

[sbp]

I believe cheerleaders get 2 tickets to each game.

[Windsor]

Originally posted by sbp
I believe cheerleaders get 2 tickets to each game.

Which they can proceed to sell for exorbitant prices, evens out in the end...whats this about a lawsuit?

[Memo]

Originally posted by Windsor


Which they can proceed to sell for exorbitant prices, evens out in the end...whats this about a lawsuit?

I forget what team of cheerleaders but supposedly there is a peephole from the team locker room into the cheerleader locker room and the cheerleaders filed a lawsuit against every team in the NFL except the ones which have never played at that stadium (i believe only one or 2).

[Ladogaboy]

Originally posted by UT Memo


I forget what team of cheerleaders but supposedly there is a peephole from the team locker room into the cheerleader locker room and the cheerleaders filed a lawsuit against every team in the NFL except the ones which have never played at that stadium (i believe only one or 2).

You know... that's just stupid... I mean, honestly, can these guys not get a date? Just for the money alone, they should have women hanging around them... :disa:

[brainsmile]

I'm sure a lot of them do it for the exposure...

[Hopper1]

The cheeerleaders for the seahawks only got 20 per game when my friend did it. but make good money on appearances. supposedly they are not allowed to get involved with players but who knows.

[eSDee]

Originally posted by UT Memo


I forget what team of cheerleaders but supposedly there is a peephole from the team locker room into the cheerleader locker room

Sounds perfectly logical to me.

[Ladogaboy]

Originally posted by Hopper1
supposedly they are not allowed to get involved with players but who knows.

You know, come to think of it (I was watching a program on NFL cheerleaders) none of them were involved in any of the players. It was some show NFL put on though, and in it, they talked about how most of the cheerleaders were educated, career women, who just did it for the fun, exposure, whatever...

[chrissy]

Originally posted by Ladogaboy


You know, come to think of it (I was watching a program on NFL cheerleaders) none of them were involved in any of the players. It was some show NFL put on though, and in it, they talked about how most of the cheerleaders were educated, career women, who just did it for the fun, exposure, whatever...

The ones I know from STL are exactly that. They do it for fun or whatever.

[BrewMaster]

i have a friend who is a Clipper Girl. she gets $50 a game and nothing for practice. she does it for modeling leads and hopefully to become a Laker girl. they're not allowed to date players. they get fired if they do. of course, once they marry the player, who cares if they get fired.

[Windsor]

Originally posted by BrewMaster
i have a friend who is a Clipper Girl. she gets $50 a game and nothing for practice. she does it for modeling leads and hopefully to become a Laker girl. they're not allowed to date players. they get fired if they do. of course, once they marry the player, who cares if they get fired.


Hahah, are you implying that the Clippers are not on par with the Lakers? :eek:

:heh:

[ChrisMG187]

Originally posted by Windsor

They arent...

Hahah, are you implying that the Clippers are not on par with the Lakers? :eek:

:heh:

[molecularfire]

I'm sure a lot of them do it for the exposure...

Given the peephole thing, this could be taken in so many wrong ways. :2far:

[El Scorcho]

Originally posted by Ladogaboy


You know... that's just stupid... I mean, honestly, can these guys not get a date? Just for the money alone, they should have women hanging around them... :disa:

actually,

football is the lowest paying sport there is. And on top of that, the average career of a football player lasts 3.7 years. You only hear about these sports superstars that last 15 years and make 5 mil a year... not about the little guys.

On the St. Louis Rams for example, about only 95-98% of the super-bowl winning team from 2 years ago, is on that team now.

[Ladogaboy]

Originally posted by El Scorcho


actually,

football is the lowest paying sport there is. And on top of that, the average career of a football player lasts 3.7 years. You only hear about these sports superstars that last 15 years and make 5 mil a year... not about the little guys.

On the St. Louis Rams for example, about only 95-98% of the super-bowl winning team from 2 years ago, is on that team now.

Are those players from the Rams on a different team? Also, you have to figure that you are going to lose atleast a few players to retirement every year.

Also, the "minimum" wage for NFL players is between $200-250k a year. Even if the players that make that much were the ones that only last 3.7 years, they will come out of the deal millionaires, but those players that only make around $250k a year are usually the players with the longest careers, i.e. linemen and defensive players. If you check the longevity of those players careers, it raises to about 5-6 years, and many linemen have 10+ year careers.

Also, even if they aren't present on the team rosters (and they don't qualify for the minimum wage), there are scout team players that move in and out of the actual NFL rosters.

In addition to that, almost every NFL player is college educated (atleast partially). What is more, any person that even makes an NFL team for a season could walk on to almost any coaching staff.

If nothing else, players in the NFL are atleast successful and capable, if not rich.

hehe, we'll talk about the abusive, overbearing nature in the next chapter! :heh: :P

[sbp]

Originally posted by El Scorcho


actually,

football is the lowest paying sport there is. And on top of that, the average career of a football player lasts 3.7 years. You only hear about these sports superstars that last 15 years and make 5 mil a year... not about the little guys.

On the St. Louis Rams for example, about only 95-98% of the super-bowl winning team from 2 years ago, is on that team now. That high? :hmm:

In a company of 50+ people, will all the people the same after 2 years?

Add to that that some of these guys are now playing for others teams and the possibility of retirement.

[El Scorcho]

Originally posted by sbp
That high? :hmm:

In a company of 50+ people, will all the people the same after 2 years?

Add to that that some of these guys are now playing for others teams and the possibility of retirement.

you and ladogaboy both made good points but you still have to look at how long these players last and how much they get paid. As i said, the average career length IS only 3.7 years which may seem like a long time but as a career, thats nothing. How long have you been working at your job? How long do you plan on KEEPING that job? Im sure its more than 3.7 years.

Yes, the lowest paid players get 200-250k lado, but youre factoring out taxes, social security, their families and everything else they pay for. So in reality, theyre not millionaires and even if they are... it only lasts for 3.7 years.

Also, the average LIFE span for a retired football player is 52 years. So if they dont lose their job by the time they plan on retiring, they wont have much long left after that.

The point i was making about the rams is that a career in the NFL isnt exactly a stable one, unless youre some super star which is about one in a billion chance. If you plan on playing professional football, youre more likely to be struck by lightning. Of the 20000 college football players, about 3 will actually have a job on a professional team after their rookie year.

[molecularfire]

almost every NFL player is college educated (atleast partially).

I tutored for UCLA for a year. While technically this is true, I highly doubt that most of them have learned anything useful (ex: reading, writing, arithmetic, etc...). :P

[johnnymk]

52 years lifespan... Is that because of drugs, partying, wild women, alcohol or just plain stupidity?
If that's true, how long do boxers last, considering that they take a bigger beating than football players?

[topane]

Originally posted by johnnymk
52 years lifespan... Is that because of drugs, partying, wild women, alcohol or just plain stupidity?
If that's true, how long do boxers last, considering that they take a bigger beating than football players? I remember seeing something on TV several years ago about the beating a body takes playing football. It would be the equivalent of you or I, without pads, running full speed into a garage door at various angles 30-40 times a day, every day. That wears a body down, I'm sure. I also read an article in either Sports Illustrated or Time (can't remember, sorry) about a few older football players who had some physical problems related to the beatings they took. Johnny Unitas is totally numb in his arm, and I can't remember what other ailments the other guys had. I would guess the guys who really take and give the big hits (receivers, def backs, QBs, linebackers) probably do a lot more damage to themselves than the offensive linemen.

[dbax791]

Originally posted by El Scorcho


actually,

football is the lowest paying sport there is. And on top of that, the average career of a football player lasts 3.7 years. You only hear about these sports superstars that last 15 years and make 5 mil a year... not about the little guys.

On the St. Louis Rams for example, about only 95-98% of the super-bowl winning team from 2 years ago, is on that team now.

Well, that stat is somewhat misleading, and actually the players union is to blame. Because of the salary cap, football teams can only really afford to pay market value for their top 24-25 starters. After that, they have to load their 30-40 backups with players with less than 4 years experience, because of the Unions "Veteran" minimum wage. So basically you really don't see a lot of veteran backups (which make up 60+ percent of your team) since it makes more financial sense to load your team with minimum-wage earning rookie-2yr backups.

As far as the 95%-98, it can't be that high. I can remember off the top of my head:

Kurt Warner
Marshall Faulk
Isaac Bruce
Ricky Proehl
Orlando Pace
Az Hakim
Torry Holt
London Fletcher
Dre Bly
Jeff Wilkins

So I would bet that at least 75 % of their starting offence and 50% of their starting defense is the same as 2 yrs ago.

[dbax791]

Originally posted by topane
I remember seeing something on TV several years ago about the beating a body takes playing football. It would be the equivalent of you or I, without pads, running full speed into a garage door at various angles 30-40 times a day, every day

So you're saying I should stop slammming myself against my garage door every day? Hmm...makes sense. Explains a lot actually...:eek:

[El Scorcho]

Originally posted by johnnymk
52 years lifespan... Is that because of drugs, partying, wild women, alcohol or just plain stupidity?
If that's true, how long do boxers last, considering that they take a bigger beating than football players?

well that and a lot of health problems to go along with it. Im sure that heart problems are a major issue considering the stress, physical output, and the fact that they probably just sit on their asses after they stop playing which really does them bad.

Plus, it IS an average so im sure it ranges from young guys dying to really old guys. I guess it all just really relies on the positition, person, etc.

[Ladogaboy]

Originally posted by topane
I remember seeing something on TV several years ago about the beating a body takes playing football. It would be the equivalent of you or I, without pads, running full speed into a garage door at various angles 30-40 times a day, every day. That wears a body down, I'm sure. I also read an article in either Sports Illustrated or Time (can't remember, sorry) about a few older football players who had some physical problems related to the beatings they took. Johnny Unitas is totally numb in his arm, and I can't remember what other ailments the other guys had. I would guess the guys who really take and give the big hits (receivers, def backs, QBs, linebackers) probably do a lot more damage to themselves than the offensive linemen.

Yes, I know from personal experience. But the fact remains, they DO wear pads. Even counting that though, in the NFL, many hits have about a 40-45 mph impact, and if any of you have been in a car accident, you know what that is like. But you also have to take into consideration that football players at that level are much bigger and much stronger than the average Joe. They work out with weights almost daily, and their muscle mass is quite high. This is the main thing that allows them to avoid injuries.

As for the 52 year life span. First, that is dated. The ex-NFL players that are dying right now at the age of 52 were no where near as health conscious as modern players. Also, many of them came from an era when steroids were acceptable, if not sanctioned. Second, the other lifestyle aspects do play a major role. It is not the football as much as other things, i.e. drugs, sex, rock&roll.

Also, another point on the wear and tear on the human body. As I mentioned earlier, pro-football players spend a lot of time in the gym working with free-weights. That actually causes more wear and tear on a players body than the actual game itself. In addition, the types of injuries that the body sustains in football are not the kind that make you die early. They are debilitating, yes, but not lethal.

[BrewMaster]

Originally posted by topane
It would be the equivalent of you or I, without pads, running full speed into a garage door at various angles 30-40 times a day, every day. That wears a body down, I'm sure.

would you care to test that for us topane?