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ZrEo0
02-13-2002, 09:48 PM
im my econ class we are having a project with stocks. there is a website that we have fake money and invest in real stocks, the top 10 people who made the most money gets a big extra credit bonus.
so what stocks should i get?

Sir_Froggy
02-13-2002, 09:51 PM
socks.....socks are always good.......

u shuld invest in Enron!

:hihi:

pagemap
02-13-2002, 09:52 PM
Lockheed martin is doing well... they just got a $200B as in billion dollar contract with the DOD. Other than that stick to conservative stocks such as food companies, etc.

DoPeY5007
02-13-2002, 09:55 PM
Nike

Disney

Cisco

CokaCola

coleslaw
02-13-2002, 09:55 PM
As this is a short-term assignment, I would recommend that you do some reasearch to find companies that are on the verge of releasing something revolutionary or companies that are poised to announce profits for the quarter. I would look into some bio-medical companies and some pharmaceutical companies as well.

Memo
02-13-2002, 09:56 PM
Ha, you only get bonus points? I say check the trends and don't invest in in really popular stocks. Get some small companies. I had to do the same thing in my Econ class, except we didn't get bonus points, we got REAL cash. We were in 1st place in the city, it was like some program ran by the Houston chronicle, we would have gotten a couple hundred dollars each, but we bubbled in the form wrong the last week and didn't sell our stocks :angry:

Sir_Froggy
02-13-2002, 10:03 PM
oh oh go for Nintendo! and Sony!

cuz they have cool games :) their stocks might suck but that's ok


anyways how does that extra credit thing work? like would it work such as if u get this much money ur credit is that money divided by 2?

heh u get $20,000 u'd get 10,000 extra credit points...u could just not go to class :P

Kevster
02-13-2002, 11:51 PM
Don't pick Infonet! (NYSE:IN)

Actually, considering it's valued pretty low right now you might want to - but I also work there so you probably shouldn't. :rolleyes:

Actually - you should try Sturm Ruger (RGR) They make excellent guns and Calloway titanium golf heads. :bandit:

Jihforce
02-14-2002, 09:43 AM
One of my stocks (BPRX) is doing really well since I purchased it in January.
Its gained about 30% since then. Problem is, its gone up a ton in the last 2 days and I don't know how much longer this upward trend will last. They are set to report earnings on the 27th so I am guess folks are stocking up hoping for good news. (which is expected) But you never know with this analysts. They said that MSFT was expected to go up to 80 bucks (when I had it at 70)...its freaking 62 now. Bastards.

Check with QLGC, they gain a lot quickly...they lose it fast too but you just gotta know when to buy and sell. Good luck.

Grimm
02-14-2002, 09:55 AM
Short term stock investments? Ummmm... No.
Stocks are supposed to be long term investments. The whole make money fast thing put our economy where it is today. Companies worring about stock prices instead of divedends. I suppose how they teach it in the scools might have something to do with it. "Make money quick in the stock market!"

If you have to go short term, find companies with cyclic stock prices. Find which ones are low now but will be high at the end of your assignment.

cruelpupet
02-14-2002, 10:02 AM
SIB should go up .5 - 1pt in the next month or so


NSM will be producing a new CCD chip thats revolutionary

Jihforce
02-14-2002, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by Grimm
Short term stock investments? Ummmm... No.
Stocks are supposed to be long term investments. The whole make money fast thing put our economy where it is today. Companies worring about stock prices instead of divedends. I suppose how they teach it in the scools might have something to do with it. "Make money quick in the stock market!"

If you have to go short term, find companies with cyclic stock prices. Find which ones are low now but will be high at the end of your assignment.

I hear ya, but everyone has different investment needs and styles. If you want to invest long term, get a bond or something.

Merlin
02-14-2002, 11:05 AM
In an assignment such as this you want to aviod most stocks that are large blue chip-type companies. No IBM, GE, Microsoft, etc. Why? Because they are not likely to have large PERCENTAGE price moves during your investment horizon. As many have mentioned you want smaller companies but what you also want to check into is who has earnings scheduled to be released during your investment horizon. These releases can serve as catalysts for price movements. What you want. If you can trade during the semester, keep moving your bet to those with announcements scheduled.

I don't know what type of trading restrictions you have but you want to get exposure to the greatest amount of leverage possible. Typically that means options. Can you trade options on the stocks you pick?

NOTE TO ALL - This is really risky. DON'T INVEST YOUR MONEY LIKE THIS. IT IS BAD. This person has a special case where he needs to get the biggest bet placed in highly volatile areas in the shortest amount of time. He will wind up either far ahead (good you get extra credit) or broke (you're no worse off)

If you can only go long, look for the highest beta stocks in your universe and load up. If you can go short as well, I reccommend looking for the stocks trading at the highest price to sales ratio and short them (ie. Krispy Kreme - KKD). Best if you short some companies and go long with the proceeds. You double your exposure - what you want in an assignment such as this.

Remember - Don't ever do this with real money! This is not investing this is gambling. You can't invest properly and reep the returns in one semester, but you can gamble and win some extra credit. Following these strategies will get you the largest exposure/leverage to the market. Get some more details on what you can do/invest in and I can give you a more defined trading strategy.

attgig
02-14-2002, 11:26 AM
ticker symbol: CEG
(btw, my company :))

anyways, if you really want to win..
you have to go SUPER risky.... high risk & high gains type of stocks. Any big normal company will be a strong buy for long term stocks, but with these stock games, you really have to go for broke if you want to win.... Always research the little startups, and the unknown little guys that might hit big like crazy....




on edit: heh, i guess everyone already said pretty much what I said....
i guess reading before posting is good for something :P

oh, and a quick note, about something revolutionary. marconi (ticker: moni) is supposed to be coming out with a new ATM switch or something like that sometime before the semester's over (or at least that's what I hear on the grapevine.) definitely revolutionary, though I don't know how quick the effects on wall street will appear.

xsiled2
02-14-2002, 02:32 PM
qqq :D

Kevster
02-14-2002, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Merlin
In an assignment such as this you want to aviod most stocks that are large blue chip-type companies. No IBM, GE, Microsoft, etc. Why? Because they are not likely to have large PERCENTAGE price moves during your investment horizon. As many have mentioned you want smaller companies but what you also want to check into is who has earnings scheduled to be released during your investment horizon. These releases can serve as catalysts for price movements. What you want. If you can trade during the semester, keep moving your bet to those with announcements scheduled.

I don't know what type of trading restrictions you have but you want to get exposure to the greatest amount of leverage possible. Typically that means options. Can you trade options on the stocks you pick?

NOTE TO ALL - This is really risky. DON'T INVEST YOUR MONEY LIKE THIS. IT IS BAD. This person has a special case where he needs to get the biggest bet placed in highly volatile areas in the shortest amount of time. He will wind up either far ahead (good you get extra credit) or broke (you're no worse off)

If you can only go long, look for the highest beta stocks in your universe and load up. If you can go short as well, I reccommend looking for the stocks trading at the highest price to sales ratio and short them (ie. Krispy Kreme - KKD). Best if you short some companies and go long with the proceeds. You double your exposure - what you want in an assignment such as this.

Remember - Don't ever do this with real money! This is not investing this is gambling. You can't invest properly and reep the returns in one semester, but you can gamble and win some extra credit. Following these strategies will get you the largest exposure/leverage to the market. Get some more details on what you can do/invest in and I can give you a more defined trading strategy.

Trust Merlin on this one - I lived with him for over 3 years. He does this for a living (and not as a lowly stockbroker either - something much higher :kaching: ).

Kevster
02-14-2002, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by attgig
oh, and a quick note, about something revolutionary. marconi (ticker: moni) is supposed to be coming out with a new ATM switch or something like that sometime before the semester's over (or at least that's what I hear on the grapevine.) definitely revolutionary, though I don't know how quick the effects on wall street will appear.

They are. Infonet is a big customer of Marconi, Nortel and Cisco.
We have the new Marconi switch in our labs for evaluation purposes. :D

I don't know how this is going to affect their stock price since they have laid off a ton of engineering and support people from the formerly known as FORE systems group, but we shall see.

Butch
02-14-2002, 04:30 PM
Can you play with options?

Anywho, since I doubt you can, basically Merlin is right . . . go with riskier investments than anyone else in the class. Of course, don't go too nuts. For my Security Valuation and Portfolio Theory class in college, some girl went for stock in an Ostrich Farm . . . it went bankrupt the day after she picked it.

Are you limited to stocks on major exchanges? If not, go for penny stocks. Follow stock boards such as Raging Bull . . . go with the momentum. You can make HUGE percentage gains in no time with little downside (They're not going to go bankrupt since many of them aren't even real companies anyway, and they can't go down too much further). Be sure to be quick on the trigger to sell though, since if they go on a run up, they often go down faster than they went up . . . pump and dump.

And of course, do NOT do this with real money.

johnnymk
02-14-2002, 04:46 PM
What about gold stocks? Some analysts are saying that America is headed for a very large dose of inflation.

Merlin
02-14-2002, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by johnnymk
What about gold stocks? Some analysts are saying that America is headed for a very large dose of inflation.

Ahh, the great thing about macroeconomics. Two people look at the same data and come to different conclusions. I just read one of our internal reports at the office that is predicting a period of deflation which come as a result of our current national liquidity situation (banks are actually starting to run low on loanable funds as a result of all the recent rate decreases) Lower liquidity means it is more difficult to spur demand and in turn this leads to lower prices. Well, if that's how you want to spin it anyway.

Real world econ is great..

In any event I would be very skeptical of an analyst predicting inflation during the recessionary phase of the economic cycle. Inflation usually results from excess demand which happens more during boom times.

As for gold stocks...If you are talking about actual mining companies, the majority have benefitted greatly over the past year as a result of weakness in the South African Rand. Low Rand means their cost base was depressed while their source of demand (USA, Eurpoe, and Asia) remained strong. Going forward, gold mines look to be a continued play on the relative strength/weakness of the Rand.

johnnymk
02-15-2002, 02:15 AM
There are some analysts who will tell you that the supply/demand curve has little effect on inflation, but that government policies, especially printing too much money is what really causes inflation.
I have never been sure if it's one or the other or a combination of the two.