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Butch
02-16-2002, 09:46 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/industry/02/16/microsoft.code.reut/index.html

Judge: Microsoft must give states Windows code
Sets March 6 for hearings on proposed settlement
February 16, 2002 Posted: 12:42 PM EST (1742 GMT)

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Microsoft will have to supply the computer code for its Windows program to a group of states seeking stiffer antitrust sanctions against the software giant, a federal judge ruled Friday.

Nine state attorneys general had argued that they needed to see the Windows source code in order to verify Microsoft's claim it could not offer a simpler version of the Windows personal computer operating system, stripped of features like the Internet Explorer browser.

"It seems to me that if your side has access to it, then the other side, frankly, should have access to it," United States District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly told Microsoft's lawyers in a conference call with attorneys from both sides.

A transcript of the conversation was later made available.

Microsoft had tried to argue that the states' request for the code, made Tuesday, came too late before hearings due to begin next month on whether additional sanctions should apply to the company for violating U.S. antitrust laws.

Under the judge's order, Microsoft would provide access to the latest code for Windows, including Windows XP embedded, a version the states believe shows the software can be easily customized.

An appeals court in June agreed with a lower court that Microsoft had illegally maintained its monopoly in personal computer operating systems, but rejected splitting the company in two to prevent future violations.

Among the illegal tactics cited by the court was the "commingling" of the Windows source code with add-on programs.

The U.S. Justice Department and another nine states that had joined in the case have agreed to a settlement with Microsoft that would, among other things, give computer makers more flexibility to feature rival software on their machines.

Microsoft has balked at the additional demands of the states that have not settled. They want to give competitors easy access to the detailed Windows code and ensure Microsoft's Office suite of business programs works with other software platforms.

The proposed settlement and the suggestions for stronger sanctions are to be considered by Kollar-Kotelly in separate, but roughly parallel proceedings.

Hearings to begin March 6
The judge Friday set March 6 as the date to begin hearings on whether the settlement is in the public interest.

She said she had still not decided whether to allow third parties, such as the states that have not settled, to make presentations at the settlement hearing. "If I did, it probably would be like a 10-minute hearing per party," Kollar-Kotelly said.

Hearings on the rival proposals of the states that have not settled are tentatively due to begin on March 11.

Kollar-Kotelly has so far given no sign she will pass judgment on settlement before hearing the arguments of the dissenting states.

In addition to handing over the Windows code, the states that have not settled had also asked the judge to appoint a technical expert to help provide impartial opinions on complex technical issues raised by the case.

Kollar-Kotelly said there was too little time to find the right person for that role.

She also urged both sides to shorten their witness lists.

Kollar-Kotelly proposed meeting with attorneys for both sides next week to discuss issues still not resolved between the parties over the format of the remedy hearings.

Hiro
02-16-2002, 10:10 AM
Cool

chrissy
02-16-2002, 10:11 AM
Ohhh and I found this morning a KeyGen for XP :D

I didn't think they existed :D

Markel
02-16-2002, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by chrissy
Ohhh and I found this morning a KeyGen for XP :D

I didn't think they existed :D
I saw some references to that in the Langa list newsletter. It will be interesting to see if Microsoft can counter it.

sho.gun
02-16-2002, 12:13 PM
Ok, I don't get it. That's like giving away their secrets and all their hard work for everyone else to copy. I mean c'mon, people use windows because it's probably the easiest OS to use, why does the government have to get involved? I don't see how they have a monopoly, maybe if someone would just come up with a comparable OS then maybe Microsoft won't have as big of a market share as they do now. Isn't it capitalism when someone makes a good product, then people use it? And what's with this commingling crap... if microsoft makes other softwares that's included in windows and uses the windows source code, who the hell cares? It's their product, we don't have to buy it if we don't want to. There are other alternatives.

ThanatoGratus
02-16-2002, 02:22 PM
Maybe it means our software will work better with windows, huh Corsec?

molecularfire
02-16-2002, 05:24 PM
The government cares because our "free" enterprise relies on a bunch of companies fighting each other, with no one company ever winning. If a company does too well, anti-monopoly laws knock them down a little to give the smaller companies an chance to catch up.