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mojo
02-17-2002, 11:44 AM
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/24065.html

Keygen routine producing valid WinXP product keys?
By John Lettice
Posted: 14/02/2002 at 13:19 GMT


A cracking system for Windows Product Activation publicised this week may present Microsoft's anti-piracy system with its most serious problem yet. It takes the form of a key generator which appears to produce valid activation keys for Microsoft products, and if this really is the case, it is difficult to see how Microsoft can differentiate between keys issued with legal product, and keys generated by the keymaker.

It sounds too good (well, depending on your outlook) to be true, but while forum operators are in general managing to keep a lid on people posting locations for the program, it seems clear from discussion threads on several of them that it is indeed producing keys that work. The keymaker first gained widespread publicity earlier this week at Heise.de, which tested it and says it generated 25 keys for XP Home overnight. Heise's report, in German, can be found here, while Neowin.net has a translation of the important bits here.

Judging by the time taken to generate keys there's a significant amount of crunching going on, but on the other hand as this is precisely the sort of thing Microsoft must have anticipated when it devised WPA, it's not nearly as much crunching as you'd expect. If one morally questionable teenie can successfully generate one operational key by leaving their home PC running overnight, then Redmond has quite clearly blundered. 25 in a night counts as blundering big-time.

Prior to the keymaker WPA had been cracked, although that rather depended on what you meant by the word; as Microsoft has heroically argued, being pirated wholesale and being cracked are in fact two different things. Philosphically, anyway. Patched versions swiftly became available when the software went gold, but essentially these can be termed unauthorised distributions/variants of the software, and although it means people can get it for free, Microsoft has the capability of zapping their installations as a side-effect of service packs and similar. As yet the company doesn't seem to have used Windows Update to deactivate warez systems, but it's possible.

The other major circumvention of WPA is via leaked keys for corporate versions, which are unlocked simply by entering the key, rather than it being necessary to activate over the Internet or by phone. Again, Microsoft can invalidate these keys at service pack time, and it has done so at least once in the past.

So the question as regards keymaking software is whether or not Microsoft has any way to differentiate between generated keys and the ones it has issued itself. If not, this generation of WPA is now surely toast. ®

Dave_7
02-17-2002, 11:58 AM
It was only a matter of time.





Dave.

xsiled2
02-17-2002, 12:07 PM
the "corporate" version has been around since the launch it allows infinete installs on the same cd-key...

Hiro
02-17-2002, 12:15 PM
MicroSoft = owned

xsiled2
02-17-2002, 12:19 PM
by germans.... :D

Dave_7
02-17-2002, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by xsiled2
the "corporate" version has been around since the launch it allows infinete installs on the same cd-key...

Then... do you find this news to be insignificant?





Dave.

xsiled2
02-17-2002, 12:53 PM
ya its worth nothing.... hell i could be running the dell version on one partition anf the gateway ver on another... they have been out from the start....

brainsmile
02-17-2002, 12:59 PM
yawn

ThanatoGratus
02-17-2002, 01:05 PM
if you dont find it worth posting xsiled2 then dont post.. just view and disagree with it.
Personally, I think Microsoft put itself as a target publicizing the "new" authentication, or whatever algorithm they used. Since they made it... there's always the probability that someone will be able to break it. The probability is even greater with the establishment they have made for themselves @ Redmond.

xsiled2
02-17-2002, 01:10 PM
oh shut up, you shouldnt talk about people NOT posting...

159 (78.08 posts per day

Pinkgirl36
02-17-2002, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by xsiled2
oh shut up, you shouldnt talk about people NOT posting...

159 (78.08 posts per day


oh my, someone has WAY too much time on their hands....:P

xsiled2
02-17-2002, 01:14 PM
ya that guys lame...

ThanatoGratus
02-17-2002, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by Pinkgirl36



oh my, someone has WAY too much time on their hands....:P
Its a long weekend, and I don't have anyone to chill with... so I'm here:D

mojo
02-17-2002, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by xsiled2
ya its worth nothing.... hell i could be running the dell version on one partition anf the gateway ver on another... they have been out from the start.... well, not everyone has your superior computing skills

in other news...you shouldn't bag on other peeps schitt. i'm sure others appreciate it. ergo, it is worth something. get a clue.

xsiled2
02-17-2002, 01:24 PM
cut it out... its what half the people on XP at G|A are using, though most of your news is quite imformative.

ThanatoGratus
02-17-2002, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by mojo

in other news...you shouldn't bag on other peeps schitt. i'm sure others appreciate it. ergo, it is worth something. get a clue.
Mojo you are my god.... I'm still waiting for the green light on that shrine.
:D

mojo
02-17-2002, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by xsiled2
cut it out... its what half the people on XP at G|A are usingya, so now maybe the other half can use it too ;)

mojo
02-17-2002, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by ThanatoGratus

Mojo you are my god.... I'm still waiting for the green light on that shrine.
:D no need for shrines. it will just save you the time of having to tear it down later when i say something really stupid. and believe me, i say some pretty stupid things :P

you can drink a beer for me. that way, you'll get something out of it :D

xsiled2
02-17-2002, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by mojo
ya, so now maybe the other half can use it too ;)

granted..

ThanatoGratus
02-17-2002, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by mojo
no need for shrines. it will just save you the time of having to tear it down later when i say something really stupid. and believe me, i say some pretty stupid things :P

you can drink a beer for me. that way, you'll get something out of it :D
Ehh, good gesture, but i don't drink. Anyways, your posts help generate more inquisition rather than just making a judgement call about something and not expounding upon it.

(Along a similar line as the original post) I like all the files on the file-sharing networks labelled "official..." "keygen"... which are those OLD, LAME, virii... or more commonly, backdoor.trojan.

mojo
02-17-2002, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by ThanatoGratus

Ehh, good gesture, but i don't drink. Anyways, your posts help generate more inquisition rather than just making a judgement call about something and not expounding upon it.
well then i thank you for saying so. maybe if i'm in your area sometime you can buy me a beer then :D

cruelpupet
02-17-2002, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by ThanatoGratus

Mojo you are my god.... I'm still waiting for the green light on that shrine.
:D


Since when is mojo a god????

man things really have changed aound here

guess ill have to start bringing things back to normal


*takes out nightstick*
"Hey mojo, how ya doing?"
*wack*
*wack*
*wack*
*wack*
*CRACK!*
*wack*
hmmm looks like i busted his skull open
my works done

*walks away whistling*

xsiled2
02-17-2002, 04:23 PM
edit: *twirl nightstick*

leemaj
02-17-2002, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by xsiled2
ya that guys lame...
:stupid::)

cruelpupet
02-17-2002, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by xsiled2
edit: *twirl nightstick*


My god... has it been that long

I forgot to twirl the night stick:disa:

ThanatoGratus
02-17-2002, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by cruelpupet

*wack*
*wack*
*wack*
*wack*
*CRACK!*
*wack*
*walks away whistling*
Violence is not the answer! (But why does it feel so good?)

mojo
02-17-2002, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by cruelpupet



Since when is mojo a god????

man things really have changed aound here

guess ill have to start bringing things back to normal


*takes out nightstick*
"Hey mojo, how ya doing?"
*wack*
*wack*
*wack*
*wack*
*CRACK!*
*wack*
hmmm looks like i busted his skull open
my works done

*walks away whistling*
hrm...interesting...but i prefer not to watch you beat your "nightstick." please take your little friend elsewhere. and watch the twirling. you're getting your "love juices" on the begonias.

sho.gun
02-17-2002, 09:48 PM
getting back on the topic...


So what do you guys think of the possibility of microsoft zapping all the illegal copies through a win update or something of the sort? It's quite possible isn't it? They know which copies leaked before the retail even came out... can't they just disable those?



/me asks cuz he's scared

sho.gun
02-17-2002, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by chosenfool


Besides, you dont have a pirated copy, right? so there really is no need to be scared of an update...
;)

me? no... nonono! sho.gun good boy.

but hypothetically, let's say a friend of mine does, and umm... she's really close to me so everything she does kind of affects me. She has the winXP corporate so there's no activation. I've been telling her to get off her butt and just buy a legal copy, I mean jeez steal it if you have to, just get a legal copy. Well... besides the fact that she's broke, she's also lazy as helk. Anyway, we'll see what happens.