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oksys
06-25-2000, 11:34 PM
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Is this a good deal for a celeron 566?

The buy.com site doesn't say anything about it being a celeron II, but the highest celeron II I have seen is the 533. The 566 is a Celeron II, right?

It is $100.95.

<a href="http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10253839">http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10253839</a>

Use the $20 off coupon.

<a href="http://www.us.buy.com/promo/80220131.asp">http://www.us.buy.com/promo/80220131.asp</a>
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Dave_7
06-26-2000, 02:50 AM
I want to be sure that my message is clear, so let me clear my throat first... ah-ah-hem... YES, that would be a super deal.

Do they have the 600?


Dave.
Dave_7
06-26-2000, 02:53 AM
And with a 3 year warranty, it looks like you might get a heatsink and a fan with that. It would be the first Boxed Celeron 566 that I have seen.


Dave.
ProMinx
06-26-2000, 03:28 AM
what is the overclockability on this chip? is this the celeron 2 566 that can be cranked up past 900 mhz? if so...i'm in!
ProMinx
oksys
06-26-2000, 03:28 AM
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Yeah, I forgot to write that it was on backorder. I did however, happen to see it on Saturday night go green for a few hours - maybe they were getting stock in at that time???

I tried to use the $50 off coupon on a purchase of just $200, but when I hit submit order, it came back saying I did not have $500 in my cart.
Dave_7
06-26-2000, 04:11 AM
Why am I not asleep yet? Anyways, I just built a system around this chip and it does 850 with no probs. In it's home motherboard, however, it had a few (very few) troubles at 850 so I just knocked it down to 700 and went for stability since it's not going to be my system.

But I put the chip in my home system to test it out and see how far it could go and it rode at 850 like a champ on my P3V4X in an Abit slocket. Cool (idle 80*F - 112*F full load) and everything with a golden orb. 900 is a reasonable goal for this chip. That new Asus CuV4X socket 370 board would house this chip QUITE NICELY. Crank it up, F'ers.

Nice chip, especially for under a hundred.


Dave.
blueribb
06-26-2000, 05:37 AM
I sell systems using the Tekram board which I get from this site:
http://store.tekramusa.com:80/shop/product.asp?dept%5Fid=2&sku=220

Will this board support this Celeron 566 ? And what the heck is the difference between a PPGA and FC-PGA (flip-chip) ?

Thanks,
Glenn (TVDoc)
Bandito
06-26-2000, 06:39 AM
Blue, I don't think that board supports Cel-2's, but I could be wrong. I think they are saying 'there is no way we are going to keep supporting this board with bios updates so take it or leave it.'
intrepid342
06-26-2000, 06:56 AM
The chip you are all referring to is a FC-PGA which is, in fact different from a PPGA (Socket 370). If you have a Socket 370 Motherboard you will have to get a new board that supports FC-PGA (unless you can find an adapter).

These chips are highly overclockable but realize a couple of things. Lets say you get it to around 700mhz. Don't expect P3-700 level performance in games. These Celeron II chips do not have the same amount or speed of cache as their P3 big brothers carry so be a little wary. I have seen benchmarks on sites like andandtech.com and tomshardware.com that show P3s outperforming a similiarly clocked Celeron II by as much as 50-60%. Celeron's are great, don't get me wrong, but I stopped buying them for games a long time ago.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by blueribb:
I sell systems using the Tekram board which I get from this site:
http://store.tekramusa.com:80/shop/product.asp?dept%5Fid=2&sku=220

Will this board support this Celeron 566 ? And what the heck is the difference between a PPGA and FC-PGA (flip-chip) ?

Thanks,
Glenn (TVDoc)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Dave_7
06-26-2000, 11:16 AM
Look, when you can buy three of these chips for the same price as a P3 that will clock to 900 with air cooling, I don't want to hear any gripe-ing about performance. For less than a hundred bucks, give the chip a break.

Dave.
Dave_7
06-26-2000, 11:41 AM
Oh yes... get a Via133A board so that you can run your mempory at 100 or 133.... a major killer of the Celeron is the 66MHz bus and the limited RAM bandwidth that it causes. But running it at 100 or 133 will help a bunch.

Dave.
sklim1
06-26-2000, 05:28 PM
So which motherboard are you gurus recommending with this Celeron chip?
Dave_7
06-26-2000, 05:45 PM
I say try the new Socket 370 Asus board with the Via 133A chipset. Should be stable like the P3V4X but you won't need a slocket ($15-$20). It only has three DIMMs but I know ZERO people who have three full DIMMs and are complaining for "JUST ONE MORE, My GOD what I wouldn't give for just ONE MORE free DIMM slot. ARRRGGGGH!!!"

So that point may be moot, much like the 4X AGP slot a few moths ago. Let me 'splain. No, there is too much. Let me sum up... By the time I am going to have a video card (and games) that need 4X AGP, I'll have a new chip, new RAM, and a new motherboard.

I wouldn't pass on a good board looking for one with a 4th DIMM, but then again, I have A stick of 128 RAM. I don't plan to add more than one stick anyway. So, maybe it's just me?

Enough. Via133A socket 370 ASUS board.

Dave.
AkumaX
06-26-2000, 11:10 PM
can someone please check the back order from Ingram Micro?
rogeryang
06-27-2000, 02:34 AM
I need another dimm slot http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/frown.gif
rev_buddy_love
06-27-2000, 06:42 AM
It seems to be in stock now, go get it quick!!!
oksys
06-27-2000, 08:02 AM
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I just found out that the celeron 566 that I ordered on 6/21 from buy.com is on its way. It was shipped on Monday. I should receive it tomorrow. I will post info about it tomorrow.

I will try it in my bh6 system as soon as I get it if anyone can tell me if I can use the MS 6905 (but not the 6905 master) slotket adapter, and use the voltage settings from the motherboard itself - I have the latest bios update for the BH6 that is supposed to allow for celeron II. Thanks.

I have another system to try it in, but it is an i810 system that has does not allow for voltage tweaking.
progman
06-27-2000, 10:00 AM
Has anyone seen any benchmarks comparing this celeron chip to k6-2s or k6-3s? I think the 550 k6-2 has more cache and I know it only costs like $70.
rev_buddy_love
06-27-2000, 10:26 AM
That $20 off coupon is not good anymore, is there a new one?

-Rev
loup
06-27-2000, 10:51 AM
try this for another $20
http://www.us.buy.com/promo/80260144.asp
Smeghead
06-27-2000, 10:52 AM
progman - the old PPGA Celeron wiped the floor with the K6's. The K6 is great at Integer math, but has an inferior FPU compared to the Celeron/PII. The K6 claws that ground back a bit with 3DNow!, but that's in the same bag as SSE - it requires software support, so it ain't all that common. DirectX supports it, and some titles do, but not a lot of 'em make full use of it.

With the coppermine core, the FPU was tweaked a little. Not much, but a couple of % up. However, with the increase in clock rates, the K6 is left for dead. An FC-PGA Celeron still wins in FPU performance at stock speed, and given how far you can overclock these things...

K6 is a good upgrade if you're still got a socket7 system. It's perfect if you've got a decent motherboard and something like a P200 or whatever. However, it's not worth building a whole new box around it - just too much hassle, and absolutely no upgrade path. AGP performance on socket7 can be problematic at times, and never gets close to the BX chipset.

Duron is a different story... http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Grizybaer
06-27-2000, 02:48 PM
Hey dave, is the Asus board actually $20 or am i just reading it wrong? What other boards do you recommend and about how much?


Quote from DAve:

I say try the new Socket 370 Asus board with the Via 133A chipset. Should be stable like the P3V4X but you won't need a slocket ($15-$20). It only has three DIMMs but I know ZERO people who have three full DIMMs and are complaining for "JUST ONE MORE, My GOD what I wouldn't give for just ONE MORE free DIMM slot. ARRRGGGGH!!!"

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~Grizy
Lol, Of course. It was free.
loup
06-27-2000, 02:52 PM
i think he meant the slocket for the flip chip conversion to slot one for $15-$20...
UnEasy-E
06-27-2000, 04:52 PM
Is this the Asus motherboard in question?
http://www.epinions.com/cmhd-Motherboards-All-AsusTek_CU4X-M

Author of the review says that the pic is wrong, but it's a positive review.
aznaphrodite
06-27-2000, 05:12 PM
Okay, I think i might get this chip since it's such a good deal. Don't know if you guys remember but I was thinking of getting a new comp. At this rate, I might as well have it built. I have a new Maxtor DiamondMax 30.0GB Hard Drive Kit from Staples. If I get this processor, what else do I need and how much? Where can I get a compatible board?

AznAphrodite
Dave_7
06-27-2000, 05:35 PM
Yeah, I meant that the Slocket you'd need if you got a slot1 motherboard.
http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/product.asp?dept%5Fid=82&pid=1916&sid=FU777TCF94S92HAC080205RWQ4K781M3

It sounds like it would be a solid, if cost-effective and fast, solution.

Check it out.


Dave.