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mojo
03-11-2002, 02:16 AM
http://www.newsbytes.com/news/02/175035.html

Netscape Navigator Browser Snoops On Web Searches

By Brian McWilliams, Newsbytes
WASHINGTON, D.C., U.S.A.,
07 Mar 2002, 10:29 AM CST

AOL Time Warner's [NTSE:AOL] Netscape unit is snooping on searches performed by users of its latest Navigator browser at Google and other search sites.
According to a network traffic analysis performed by Newsbytes, Netscape is capturing Navigator 6 users' search terms, along with their Internet protocol (IP) address, the date Navigator was installed and a unique identification number.

Anytime a Navigator user performs a search by typing terms into the browser's URL bar and pressing the adjacent Search button, or by using the Search tab on the browser's My Sidebar feature, the user data is sent to a server at info.netscape.com using a uniform resource locator (URL) forwarding system.

While search sites such as Google log data about visitors, Netscape is in a unique position to compile a meta-database of search information, according to Marc Maiffret, "chief hacking officer" for Eeye Digital Security.

"Why should Netscape know about what I searched for at Google? This is way more information than they need," said Maiffret.

Derick Mains, a spokesman for Netscape, said the company developed the URL forwarding system in order to bill participating search sites for sending them traffic.

"We just keep track of aggregate numbers and don't monitor any terms or anything. We just need to know how many people are searching via our browser to our search partners, and that's all the information we receive," he said.

By default, Navigator's Search function uses Netscape's own search service. But browser users can configure Navigator instead to use search services from Google, Lycos or Overture (formerly Goto).

Netscape's interception of Web searches was first noted by Sim IJskes, a Netherlands-based software engineer, on the RISKS mailing list this week. IJskes observed that Navigator installs several scripts that are invoked during searches and forward requests through Netscape's server to the intended search engine.

Using Navigator's Search button to perform an inquiry at Google, for example, invokes the URL http://info.netscape.com/fwd/lksidus_gg/http://www.google.com/search.

A test of Microsoft's Internet Explorer 6 browser showed that data on searches conducted from IE's search page is sent directly to the designated search site and is not intercepted by Microsoft.

Navigator users can avoid having Netscape log their searches by directly accessing a third-party search engine by typing its address into the browser rather than using the Search button or Sidebar.

According to Richard M. Smith, an independent privacy watchdog, the privacy policy at Netscape's Web site does not mention that Navigator Search-button users' inquiries at third-party search sites are logged by Netscape.

"This is yet another example of a product phoning home. It's a sleazy practice," said Smith.

Netscape is at http://www.netscape.com .

Reported by Newsbytes, http://www.newsbytes.com .

10:29 CST
Reposted 12:11 CST

sbp
03-11-2002, 02:22 AM
People use Netscape :confused:

Hiro
03-11-2002, 07:35 AM
If they are only using this information to bill search engines for sending them traffic...why would they need our IP Address?

I mean, they can possibly say they need the IP as hard evidence that this person went to this site...but that is still bullsh*t.

And why didn't people know about this when the new netscape version was released? The fact that a company is getting information off of your computer without telling you is illegal, is it not?

Cantacuzene
03-11-2002, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by sbp
People use Netscape :confused:

In my CS classes all the TAs are crazy about netscape. They hate IE for some reason. Granted, they are mostly indian and chinese but they should still know that netscape is crap.

Jihforce
03-11-2002, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by Cantacuzene


In my CS classes all the TAs are crazy about netscape. They hate IE for some reason. Granted, they are mostly indian and chinese but they should still know that netscape is crap.

I don't see why being indian and/or chinese have anything to do with people liking netscape. :hmm:

Cantacuzene
03-11-2002, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by Jihforce


I don't see why being indian and/or chinese have anything to do with people liking netscape. :hmm:

I wish I knew. I'm not trying to assert anything, I'm just reporting what I see, which is all the indian and chinese students love netscape and telnet.

molecularfire
03-11-2002, 11:12 AM
Well... telnet kicks rear. :P

sho.gun
03-11-2002, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by Cantacuzene


I wish I knew. I'm not trying to assert anything, I'm just reporting what I see, which is all the indian and chinese students love netscape and telnet.

dude... do you go to CSUN?? I notice this too...

Kevster
03-11-2002, 03:45 PM
Geez.... what isn't spyware these days... :disa:

mojo
03-11-2002, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by Jihforce


I don't see why being indian and/or chinese have anything to do with people liking netscape. :hmm: :stupid:

nickel
03-11-2002, 04:16 PM
Hey, I am posting here right after mojo ~ just to give the natives something to talk about. :D :D :D

NuTs62
03-11-2002, 04:22 PM
I don't know bout you guys.. but I used to love netscape.. I had to download the newest version, and stuff.. But now since everything runs smoother for IE, and everything is like integrated.. IE is certainly my pick.. Netscape just... lost it? yet another conspiracy of Microsoft's to take over the world!

leemaj
03-11-2002, 04:40 PM
i bet aim does it too

whitak24
03-11-2002, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by NuTs62
I don't know bout you guys.. but I used to love netscape.. I had to download the newest version, and stuff.. But now since everything runs smoother for IE, and everything is like integrated.. IE is certainly my pick.. Netscape just... lost it? yet another conspiracy of Microsoft's to take over the world!
well, originally, netscape was much superior to IE. does anyone else remember how much the early versions of IE sucked?
but microsoft used their anticompetitive tactics to flood the market and buy enough time to improve their product until it's much stronger than the current versions of netscape.
and so now, in a sad twist, netscape adopts the old microsoft tactic of spying on users and invading their privacy. yay!