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Butch
03-28-2002, 10:48 AM
Some funny funny quotes in here about how the Kiwis are laughing at Quayle. For some reason, I find it hilarious to think about Quayle trying to be intimidating . . .

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/auspac/03/28/nz.lange/index.html

Former New Zealand chief claims Quayle threatened him
March 28, 2002 Posted: 1:14 PM EST (1814 GMT)

By Joe Havely
CNN Hong Kong

WELLINGTON, New Zealand (CNN) -- Former New Zealand Prime Minister David Lange has claimed that ex-U.S. Vice President Dan Quayle threatened to have him "liquidated" over his country's anti-nuclear policy in the 1980s.

The extraordinary allegation was first made in an interview with New Zealand's One News broadcast Tuesday night. Quayle rejected the claim. In an e-mail from Quayle's Phoenix, Arizona, office, Quayle said Lange's allegation was "complete and utter nonsense -- it's so ridiculous it deserves no further comment."

The report also was described as "preposterous" by the U.S. Embassy in Wellington.

"We would hate to challenge the memory of a former prime minister, but the suggestion that former vice president Quayle threatened to kill him is preposterous," a spokeswoman told CNN.

In the One News interview Lange said the apparent death threat was made by Quayle during a meeting with the Australian cabinet.

"There were veiled threats and there were specific threats," he said. "It was announced at one stage to the Australian cabinet that I would have to be liquidated."

After being informed of the alleged threat -- it is unclear by whom -- Lange said he then asked New Zealand's Security Intelligence Service to investigate.

"I enquired of our security sources and was told I shouldn't regard it as a credible threat because the vice president wasn't regarded as credible."

Anti-nuke policy

U.S. nuclear armed and nuclear powered vessels remain banned from New Zealand
As prime minister from 1984 to 1989 Lange brought in legislation banning U.S. nuclear powered and nuclear armed warships from New Zealand.

The move, which he says was galvanized by French nuclear testing in the South Pacific, sparked an angry reaction from Washington, which stripped New Zealand of its ally status, halting military cooperation and intelligence sharing.

Lange said at the time many people felt aggrieved at New Zealand's anti-nuclear stance and he faced extraordinary pressure to drop the policy, which remains in effect.

The revelation coincides with a visit to the U.S. by current Prime Minister Helen Clark.

On Tuesday she held talks with U.S. President George W Bush, for whose father Quayle was vice president.

She also met with Secretary of State Colin Powell and Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz both of whom confirmed disagreements persist over the nuclear ban.

"Disagreements between close friends are not that unusual," Powell said, adding that nonetheless New Zealand remained a " very, very, very close friend" of the United States.

Clark's office has made no comment on Lange's allegations against former vice president Quayle.

'I didn't feel at risk'

Former Vice President Dan Quayle made a failed bid for the U.S. presidency in 2000
In subsequent remarks made to the Evening Post newspaper Wednesday, Lange said he never felt intimidated by Quayle's alleged threat.

"He wasn't taken seriously by his own folk, that was the tragedy," the paper quotes him as saying.

"I didn't feel at risk from the U.S. Navy because they didn't come here anyway, and I certainly wouldn't be at risk from a chap who couldn't spell tomato," he added.

The comment was an apparent reference to a campaign blunder when Quayle made a schoolboy add the letter "e" to the end of the word "potato" during a school photo opportunity.

Quayle has largely retreated from U.S. political life after a failed bid for the Republican presidential nomination in the 2000 campaign.

whitak24
03-28-2002, 11:08 AM
yeah, that story reeks of validity. it sounds like the former NZ PM just realized that no one cares about him so he decided to insult someone else who no one cares about.

jase71
03-28-2002, 11:19 AM
I don't know. Quayle was dumb enough to stick his foot in his mouth like that. I doubt he meant the threat seriously, but he could easily have said something like that in an attempt to intimidate, and just not thought about the consequences of what he was saying.

It doesn't matter much, because he's not in office anymore. This would be much more interesting if he were. Then I'd want to hear some tapes, or read some transcripts.

As it is, it's just one more anecdote in the humorous history of the Boy Blunder.

sbp
03-28-2002, 11:22 AM
Must be a slow news day for cnn to post drivel like this.

LPMiller
03-28-2002, 02:44 PM
correct me if I'm wrong, but Quayle did NOT run for president in 2000. He was sick with something, and never actually campaigned.

jase71
03-28-2002, 02:53 PM
He ran...

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/04/14/president.2000/quayle/

But he bowed out of the race in September of '99, more than a year before the elections. So he was never that serious of a candidate.

Whether it was because he was sick, or because he realized he didn't stand a chance in hell of winning, I don't know...

LPMiller
03-28-2002, 05:13 PM
might be 96 i'm thinking of...I seem to remember him not running for an election because of illness.

sbp
03-28-2002, 11:17 PM
Yes, Quayle did have health problems of some sort. http://www.disinfo.com/pages/article/id942/pg1

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Quayle quits race for President (http://www.indiainfo.com/news/Sep-28-99/28fn8.html)

September 28, 1999

Phoenix: Former US Vice President Dan Quayle quit the race for the Republican presidential nomination yesterday - low on cash, far behind in the polls and unable to shake a national reputation as the man who could not spell the word 'potato.'

"There is a time to stay and there is a time to fold," Quayle said. He added that a major reason for his withdrawal from the race was the staggering war chest compiled by front-runner, Texas Governor George W Bush, under whose father Quayle served as Vice President from 1989 to 1992.

''I was facing a campaign where the front-runner would have up to 100 million dollars to spend and an unprecedented front loading of the primary system made the task for me of winning the nomination of my party virtually impossible," Quayle said referring to the 18 primaries that follow in a matter of weeks next year's first-in-the-nation New Hampshire primary.

Quayle, who said he has dreamed of becoming President for a dozen years, said he thought he could win New Hampshire but would not have enough money to run in the next 18 primaries. Bush has already raised a 50 million dollars war chest.

In polls he was receiving between eight and nine percent in support while Bush was receiving 50 percent or more. ''There is a time to know when to leave the stage. Thus today, I am announcing I will no longer be a candidate for President of the United States,'' the 52-year-old Quayle said in a speech here as he became the first former or current Vice President in 50 years to fail in seeking his party's presidential nomination.

His departure leaves seven candidates besides Bush vying for the Republican Presidential nomination including Arizona Sen John McCain who made his formal announcement yesterday that he was a Presidential candidate.