Any one used one of these???...

[DoPeY5007]

SV25 Mini Computer System

Linky (http://www.spacewalker.com/english/mcs_detail_info.asp?number=165)

http://www.spacewalker.com/english/sv25.gif

Memory

DIMM x 2, up to a total of 1GB (max) memory size, 168-pin PC100 /PC133 SDRAM


Graphics

Built in Savage 4 graphics engine


Audio

VIA audio with AC'97 CODEC


On board 1394 chipset

VIA-VT6306
support 400Mb/s, 200Mb/s, 100Mb/s data transfer rate


Ethernet

On board Realtek 8100B
IEEE 802.3u 100Base-T specifications compliant
10 Mb/s and 100 Mb/s operation
Supports Wake-On-LAN function


Expansion Bus

1 x PCI
PCI 2.2 specification compliant


I/O

Built in VIA 686B
Support 1 UART for Complete Serial Ports
Support 1 Multi-mode parallel port
Support 1 Floppy Disk Controller
Support PS2 keyboard and mouse


H/W Monitor

Built in VIA686B
Voltage, Temperature, Fan Speed Monitor


IDE

Ultra DMA 33/66/100 mode
PIO mode 4
2 IDE ports


Power Management

APM 1.2
ACPI 1.0


BIOS

Award PnP BIOS
DMI 2.3
2Mb flash memory


Back Panel Ports and Connectors

1 x PS/2 Keyboard
1 x PS/2 Mouse
1 x VGA port
1 x Serial Port
1 x Parallel port, supports SPP, ECP, and EPP mode
2 x 1394 ports
1 x S connector
1 x Composite connector
2 x USB ports
1 x RJ45 port
1 x line-in connector
1 x line-out connector


Other connectors and jumpers

2 x fan connectors
2 x Front Panel USB Connector Header
Front side line-out and mic-In Header
CD Audio in connector
Clear CMOS
1 x ATX power connector


Others Feature

CPU Voltage Auto Detecting (CPU PnP)
Support Suspend to Ram
Power on by Ring
Wake-On-LAN

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http://65.119.30.151/productimage/56-101-201-02.JPG

http://65.119.30.151/productimage/56-101-201-03.JPG



Pinkgirl36 is looking to get one, thay look cool, are tiny, and she likes it.

I just wanna know if any one has used them, she will only me doing "normal" stuff so no need for all the bells and whistles.

[xsiled2]

i remember that revil had one, he had an issue with it but i cant recall what is was, they have p4 ones now btw, they arnt bad :).

[Wizard]

I have one... want to make a deal?

I might be willing to part with it, if you buy it I'll include a VIA C3 866MHz CPU with it... :D hehe

PM me or Email me

[Hiro]

nice little machine. for the basic stuff pinky would be using it for....it will work fine. :D

[Windsor]

Originally posted by chosenfool
hmmm...this may fit in well with the TV box im building. im looking for a case that will house the components in, but this may yet fill the bill...

im just curious to know if its got TV-OUT, or if those TV-Out jacks/connectors are fully functional. im looking to hook the box to the TV (thats why i call it TV box).

also, it doesnt say if the graphics memory SHARE with the MAIN memory (it probably does...).

but looking around shuttle's website, they have some small form factor motherboards that i can use instead. problem now is looking for a case small enough (i really want to use my old TNT card because it has a good TV-OUT with it, plus i can hook more than 1 hard drive in it).

by the way, how much is the SV25?

I'm not sure on this, but I think anandtech might have done a little thing about the shuttle mobo and cases that fit it, so that might be a place to find a good case.

Well, I went to anandtech and they did do and article on the SV24, an older model and the case is sold by Shuttle, too, as part of a barebones system. So you would have to find someone that sells the SV24/25 barebones system, usually around 250, I think.

[DoPeY5007]

Originally posted by chosenfool


by the way, how much is the SV25? newegg has it for $239

[DoPeY5007]

Originally posted by xsiled2
they have p4 ones now btw, they arnt bad :). yeah I saw that on their site, they have an AMD one as well. But she likes this one only because of cost, the P4 system is a little more than she wants to spend

[DoPeY5007]

yeah the cooler's that this can hold is limited, but with a Celeron 1.0 I don't think heat is going to be a problem. She really likes the size of this PC, "it is cute"




she says she wan't to buy a pre-built ( Dell/HP ) but I won't let her, this barebone is as close to pre-built I said she could go....





she is thinking about it and really thinks she is going to go with this with

8-16x DVD
60gig HD ( on sale this week 7200rpm Maxtor for around $80 from OfficeDepot )
and then a wireless keyboard/mouse larter
and 1gig o ram

[sho.gun]

If you worry about heat, buy W|zard's, get the VIA chip, that thing runs like a freezer. I'm planning on making an mp3 box for my car, based on the shuttle SV24, i might just buy the barebones and use a VIA c3.

[DoPeY5007]

Originally posted by sho.gun
If you worry about heat, buy W|zard's, get the VIA chip, that thing runs like a freezer. I'm planning on making an mp3 box for my car, based on the shuttle SV24, i might just buy the barebones and use a VIA c3.

well I am not thinking that it should get to hot...


now what is the Dif. between the SV24 & SV25???...

[sho.gun]

The SV25 uses a newer chipset, called the VIA VT8606T. The old SV24 usesthe VIA VT8604.

you can compare em here:
http://www.shuttleonline.com/spec.php3?model=sv25
http://www.shuttleonline.com/sv24.htm

[DoPeY5007]

yeah I have seen their site, the only thing I did see dif. was the chipset....

[Wizard]

SV25 supports Tualatin
SV24 doesn't

That's the only differences

[DoPeY5007]

ok... what is "Tualatin"

[Wizard]

Tualatin is the new incantation of the P3. Just like with Athlon there is Thunderbird, Thoroughbred, Palomino. P3 had Coppermine, Tualatin... and forgot the other one.

Tualatin CPUs are not backward compatible with other P3s so hence the updated chipset.

Tualatin CPUs are sold up to 1.4GHz and are equal to Thunderbird 1.4 in performance. Actually I have seen Tualatin beat Thunderbird several times.

[DoPeY5007]

ahhh ok, that is what I though, I just wasn't sure....






:eek: I just did a little look Celeron 1.3 for under $90 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=19-112-160)




I think I will recomend this chip for her

[Wizard]

For that CPU use the SV25

[xsiled2]

Originally posted by DoPeY5007

she is thinking about it and really thinks she is going to go with this with
and 1gig o ram


she or you :D thats a load of ram

[DoPeY5007]

Originally posted by xsiled2


she or you :D thats a load of ram
:P

I just wanna make sure it works well


Memory
DIMM x 2
Up to 512MB of 168-pin PC100 /PC133 SDRAM but looks like the SV25 can only hold 512, so I will have he max it out

[revil]

Originally posted by xsiled2
i remember that revil had one, he had an issue with it but i cant recall what is was, they have p4 ones now btw, they arnt bad :).
I have an SV24. Mine was having problems figuring out how fast the processor really is. I think that is because I have an engineering sample in it. all the retail chips i put in worked fine.

oh well :( I think I should have waited 1 month until the sv25 came out.

The one thing I do not like about it is that the rear case fan is kinda noisy. but I suppose it's needed since it's the only fan circulating air. (i don't think the 40mm powersupply fan counts...)

Also, I don't know how well it works with windows. I run linux on it.

[DoPeY5007]

Originally posted by revil



Also, I don't know how well it works with windows. I run linux on it. that's what I wan'ted to get one for, but Pink likes it, so I will let her try it, and well hey if it don't work then I guess I will get to play in Linux with it :D

[Wizard]

<pssst what did we learn about bandwidth leeching a few days back?>

Sorry to be a jackass and mention it again. BTW- I have a good friend that works in Shuttle and he says its fine but in the future lets reduce leeching :)

[DoPeY5007]

Originally posted by Wizard
<pssst what did we learn about bandwidth leeching a few days back?>

Sorry to be a jackass and mention it again. BTW- I have a good friend that works in Shuttle and he says its fine but in the future lets reduce leeching :) well only one pic is from them, the otheres are from newegg, but it is advertisement for them :)




and can he hook us up with a discount???... :D

[bugaboo]

looks cool and quite samll.. how much is one of these suckers?

[DoPeY5007]

Originally posted by bugaboo
looks cool and quite samll.. how much is one of these suckers? $239 from newegg.com

[TommyBoomfiger]

looks like a nice little box especially for almost everyone who keeps buggin me to build them a computer. what needs to be added? looks to me like it needs a cpu, ram, hd, fd, cd/dvd drive and possibly a modem. can anyone think of something that im forgetting? i have a friend who really wants a new computer and this will be perfect since we already have most of the stuff.

[DoPeY5007]

that's all you need to add to it :)



Monitor, Keyboard and Mouse of course

[DoPeY5007]

ok, well this is what she desided to get, she has now purchased a Maxtor 80gig 5400 and a 16x DVD rom

[Showtime]

why go thru all this hassle?
gamecube=$135 on sale :P
-jel:halo:

[Pinkgirl36]

ooops I messed up... :rolleyes:

[Pinkgirl36]

Ok I FINALLY got my little computer...I like it..it's cute...here are some pictures...

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5170.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5171.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5172.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5173.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5174.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5176.JPG

[Pinkgirl36]

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5177.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5178.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5180.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5181.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5182.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5183.JPG

[Pinkgirl36]

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5184.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5185.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5186.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5189.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5191.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5192.JPG

[Pinkgirl36]

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5193.JPG

[Ladogaboy]

Haha, nice...

I've been looking at those, but they don't seem very practical for me... Maybe for when I upgrade my GF's computer. :hmm:

[ribitch]

cool. i reminds me of the cube. nice and compact and it even comes with firewire.

so howmuch does one of them set somebody back? Would make a nice linux system

[Pinkgirl36]

Well I think it came up to about $500-$600 for everything. I love it, it's small, which is the main reason I wanted it because I don't need some bigass computer.

I think it's the perfect "girl" computer if they don't do much stuff, I will use it mainly for my online classes and typing up papers...perfect for me...

and well if I ever want I can just build a bigger computer in normal size and this can get used to put linux or something on...

[smurphy]

I got the SS51G last month, P4 2.26B Ghz, 512MB DDR333 CL2, 60GB HD, ATI 9000 64MB and Windows XP Pro. Very quiet and stable. I had a TI4400 in it for games but because it is my "demo" unit I changed it to a more practical card. The on board video is very good but not for playing games (that's a given).

Cheers,
Scott Murphy

[mcs328]

http://www.vr-zone.com/Interviews/Shuttle/2.jpg

From the News link. I was looking to get one like u did Pink but then I saw this. :eek:

Does ur's or does this model have an AGP slot? Anyone know?

[smurphy]

That model does have an AGP slot. All XPC version do. Earlier versions like the one PINK has do not. A new version SB51 has the new Intel 845PE chipset and another with NForce2 is coming also, both will have an AGP slot and another PCI slot.

For Immediate Release / 10-7-2002

Shuttle Announces XPC SB51G, "HyperThreading(tm) in a Cube"



Shuttle Inc., a leading provider of innovative motherboards, barebones, and accessories, today announced the latest addition to its growing line of XPC small form factor barebones. The Shuttle XPC SB51G, successor to the world's famous XPC SS51G, advances Shuttle's small form factor leadership yet again. As the originator of the small form factor barebones concept, Shuttle leads the market in terms of both sales and innovation.



The Shuttle XPC SB51G leverages the new Intel® i845GE chipset to achieve new levels of performance and integration. The Intel® i845GE, when coupled with Shuttle's high quality 6 layer motherboard design and manufacturing, guarantees the best in stability, reliability and longevity.



Measuring only 300mm (L) by 200mm (H) by 185mm (W), the XPC SB51G is the smallest full featured Pentium 4 system available. The XPC SS51G, like the entire XPC series, sets high end desktops as its feature target, not low end set top boxes and slim PCs. To this end, the XPC SB51G supports a incredible array of features, including:



HyperThreading(tm)
The Shuttle XPC SB51G is the first small form factor PC to support Intel's HyperThreading(tm) technology, which allows the use of two virtual processors with only a single Intel® Pentium® 4 processor. This allows significant performance increases in applications optimized for dual processors.



Shuttle I.C.E.
The XPC SB51G incorporates Shuttle's patented Integrated Cooling Engine(tm) technology, which allows the XPC SB51G to not only be the world's most powerful small form factor PC, but also one of the quietest. Shuttle I.C.E. technology removes the need for a processor fan with the use of heat pipe technology, significantly cutting down on fan noise while effectively cooling high speed Intel® Pentium® 4 processors.



Extreme Connectivity and Upgradeability
Like all XPC's, the SB51G offers the best in external and internal connectivity. Technologies such as IEEE-1394 Firewire(tm), USB2.0, Intel® Extreme Graphics(tm), the latest 400 and 533MHz Intel® Pentium® 4 processors, high fidelity 5.1 channel sound with optical SPDIF in and out, dual ATA100 channels, up to 2 gigabytes of the latest DDR333 memory, 10/100 Ethernet, up to two standard 3.5" hard disks and one 5.25" optical drive, and 1/1 full size AGP/PCI expansion.



According to Tom's Hardware, "Verdict: "Mini" has maxi future. The performance of the ultra-compact PC system is no small feat: equipped in the THG lab with ingredients such as Intel P4/2533, GeForce 4 Ti 4600 and DDR333 RAM, the Shuttle can easily take on high-performance big towers. Computers in the discount class don't have a chance."



The Shuttle XPC SB51G is sampling now, and will be available starting November 2002.



Cheers,
Scott Murphy

[Nija]

Originally posted by mcs328
http://www.vr-zone.com/Interviews/Shuttle/2.jpg

From the News link. I was looking to get one like u did Pink but then I saw this. :eek:

Does ur's or does this model have an AGP slot? Anyone know?

:drool:

I want that.... i want it bad....

[mcs328]

Originally posted by Nija


:drool:

I want that.... i want it bad....

It sure is bright as heck. it hurts my eyes. I wonder if there's a way to turn it off. Whenever I get the spare moolah I'm going for a Shuttle. It's easier to carry I imagine and then get a LCD monitor. I'll be so more portable when I move around.

[smurphy]

Shuttle updated their page finally. Here is the link to those systems.

http://us.shuttle.com

Cheers,
Scott Murphy

[Nija]

Originally posted by mcs328


It sure is bright as heck. it hurts my eyes. I wonder if there's a way to turn it off. Whenever I get the spare moolah I'm going for a Shuttle. It's easier to carry I imagine and then get a LCD monitor. I'll be so more portable when I move around.

That's fine with me. I do most of the stuff in the dark anyways, so this should cast a nice eery light around everything. Yeah a LCD monitor and a little shuttle should be fine for portable gaming systems. Ugh.. need money, now for pretty computer :D

[Cheesypuff]

Originally posted by Wizard
<pssst what did we learn about bandwidth leeching a few days back?>

Sorry to be a jackass and mention it again. BTW- I have a good friend that works in Shuttle and he says its fine but in the future lets reduce leeching :)

wizard...haven't seen you in a while! Anywho...gotta build me a computer!

[spigidygak]

Check out what this guy did with that case. http://forums.sudhian.com/messageview.cfm?catid=33&threadid=22039

[Pinkgirl36]

My lil' computer at my desk :)

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5195.JPG

[Cheesypuff]

Originally posted by DarkFury


Ummm Cheesy... Wizard posted that message back in April. This is an OLD thread... :D

Yeah...just saw that...I'm such a loser!!! Stupid cheesypuff....stupid cheesypuff!

[MUSTANGPC]

I have seen Creative has one of this. What do you call this - BabyPC!

[Pinkgirl36]

Well we changed it and now it has blue LEDS :)

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5318.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5319.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5320.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5321.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5322.JPG

[Pinkgirl36]

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5323.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5324.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5325.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5327.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5328.JPG

[Pinkgirl36]

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5329.JPG

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/IMG_5330.JPG

[Pinkgirl36]

My Power Supply died last night!... and now DoPeY has to see if he can RMA it... Right now I have a normal 300W just plugged into the system so it will work...:rolleyes:

[Speedfreak]

I have the SS51G with the blue lighted front panel. Here is what I have inside:

P4 2.0a O/C 2.4Ghz
512MB Samsung Cas2 DDR333
120GB WD SE 8MB
160GB WD SE 8MB
Onboard Sound (5.1 to my Klipsch Promedias)
Onboard Video (I had my Albatron ti4200 turbo in it but it is now in my new 2400XP Gaming rig. I will probably put my Geforce3 in here once I get a new fan as it is noisy and going to die soon)
Leadtek Winfast 2000XP TV/Radio Tuner
Lite-On 40x12x48 in External USB 2.0 case

I am using this as my TV/DVD player/file server now. I have my 21" Dell/Sony monitor hooked to it. I have a Replay TV 4504 hooked directly to the second input of the monitor (Replay has VGA out) and Optical Digital audio out from the Replay to the ss51G. Sounds and looks awesome with Dish.

[Speedfreak]

That's one nice thing about the SS51G; it comes with a blue power LED and a red HD Led. That blue LED is friggin bright. You could almost read a book up next to that thing when the room lights are off at night.

[TERRIBLETOM]

My brother is building one with a case similar to that, he is putting it in the truck of his car. he is also adapting an lcd touch screen in his vehicle and integrating it to his am/fm radio. he will be using it for mp3's DVD, and also global positioning.

[Pinkgirl36]

Ok so we decided to do a little bit of mods on my lil pc....( it's so CUTE!!) and here they are

Before....

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/rear_fan/IMG_6785.JPG

Case empty...

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/rear_fan/IMG_6794.JPG

First cut....

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/rear_fan/IMG_6795.JPG

Smoothed out...

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/rear_fan/IMG_6796.JPG

Finished!

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/rear_fan/IMG_6797.JPG

[Pinkgirl36]

Ok so I ordered this....

Mini Cold Cathode Light Kit, Blue (http://www.pcmods.com/details.asp?ProdID=460)


The Unit

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/light_mod/IMG_6839.JPG


Where the switch will go....

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/light_mod/IMG_6840.JPG


Where the light will go....

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/light_mod/IMG_6842.JPG


The light in place...


http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/light_mod/IMG_6843.JPG

[Pinkgirl36]

The light in the first test...

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/light_mod/IMG_6844.JPG

Top View...


http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/light_mod/IMG_6845.JPG


Inverter in place....


http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/light_mod/IMG_6846.JPG

The Switch in place...


http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/light_mod/IMG_6853.JPG

The other side of the switch...


http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/light_mod/IMG_6854.JPG

[Pinkgirl36]

Inverter again...

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/light_mod/IMG_6857.JPG


First test once everything put back together...


http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/light_mod/IMG_6859.JPG


Put back in it's home...

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/light_mod/IMG_6860.JPG


And in the dark :)

http://dopey5007.dynu.com/images/shuttle/light_mod/IMG_6861.JPG